Biden's VP?

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[Post New]07/26/2020 15:21
Anonymous
Tammy Baldwin. Hardworking, intelligent, well liked in DC and the Midwest.
[Post New]07/26/2020 15:41
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear any criticisms about Bass - what is the concern (outside of her age) that creates an avoidable risk?


You mean other than putting her foot in her mouth and pissing of Americans who immigrated from Cuba (largely in Florida a swing state).

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/27/florida-democrats-karen-bass-vp-341931

How about this for starters

https://www.laweekly.com/the-curious-case-of-karen-bass/
[Post New]07/26/2020 17:45
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tammy Baldwin. Hardworking, intelligent, well liked in DC and the Midwest.


Why do you think the Midwest would prefer Duckworth instead of Whitmer? Just curious.
[Post New]07/26/2020 17:56
Anonymous
Honestly, none of these women are going to affect the outcome of this election.
[Post New]07/26/2020 17:57
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear any criticisms about Bass - what is the concern (outside of her age) that creates an avoidable risk?


You mean other than putting her foot in her mouth and pissing of Americans who immigrated from Cuba (largely in Florida a swing state).

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/27/florida-democrats-karen-bass-vp-341931

How about this for starters

https://www.laweekly.com/the-curious-case-of-karen-bass/


Thank you. The 2nd link seems heavily biased. She did nothing illegal by collecting per diem; I can’t imagine the extent of her day to day AOR. A raise where others did not get it, arguable defendable in full context. The most concerning issue would be her formal salutation to Castro, and the risk that may create in reducing votes in Florida or empowering an incumbent narrative. However, each interviewee offered the olive branch of an educational opportunity for history, which is a really interesting response that signals she still has willing supporters despite that info.
[Post New]07/26/2020 18:04
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, none of these women are going to affect the outcome of this election.


Usually I'd agree, but this year the VP will make a very big difference.
[Post New]07/26/2020 18:05
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, none of these women are going to affect the outcome of this election.


I pretty much agree, largely because of Biden’s competency and what is certain to be top talent across the board in his staff and agency.

However, this VP will shape political attitudes towards a party that is largely fracture. They will lead oversight for the next 4 years, and also the opportunity to bridge undecided positions in preparation for 2024. I ask, how would they handle some of the largest public media concerns? Do they have capacity for the function that isn’t publicly disclosed? Whom will create the most efficient use of time as a VP. What will 2024 look like with this woman working alongside Biden? How will they be received on the international stage? If brought into office today, what would they do differently?

These are the thoughts I consider as I read comments. I think that the selected VP is more important than ever this election for many other reasons too. I think most people committed to Biden are also BNMW.
[Post New]07/26/2020 18:15
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tammy Baldwin. Hardworking, intelligent, well liked in DC and the Midwest.


No. She is supported but not well liked and she wouldn't add a lot to the ticket. Much prefer Tammy Duckworth if we are going with a Tammy, and Harris or Grisham would be my preferences over Baldwin.
[Post New]07/26/2020 19:49
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Liker her, or not, it's Kamala. Take a look at what she's been up to the last couple of weeks. Done deal.


Not happening. Too many negatives.

Your flooding this thread with this same sentiment won't make your perspective more credible.


NP: I've been a fan of Harris as VP. But I was talking to my mom this morning - she's white, in her late 70s, hates Trump, totally addicted to MSNBC - and she was telling me there's just something about Harris she doesn't like. My mom is my barometer for how normal Democrats are responding to the world - and if she's feeling this way about Harris, I am going to guess that plenty of other people do, too.

I still like Harris. But now I worry she doesn't pass the Mom test.


The Mom test crucified the most competent and prepared presidential candidate in 2016.

Tell you mom that she doesn't have to freaking be BFFs with a woman to note that she can do the damned job.


+1 This is not the election to be going by gut feeling and who you can have a beer with. 4 years of dismal mismanagement has shown us that being competent is > being affable.
[Post New]07/26/2020 23:00
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear any criticisms about Bass - what is the concern (outside of her age) that creates an avoidable risk?


You mean other than putting her foot in her mouth and pissing of Americans who immigrated from Cuba (largely in Florida a swing state).

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/27/florida-democrats-karen-bass-vp-341931

How about this for starters

https://www.laweekly.com/the-curious-case-of-karen-bass/


Thank you. The 2nd link seems heavily biased. She did nothing illegal by collecting per diem; I can’t imagine the extent of her day to day AOR. A raise where others did not get it, arguable defendable in full context. The most concerning issue would be her formal salutation to Castro, and the risk that may create in reducing votes in Florida or empowering an incumbent narrative. However, each interviewee offered the olive branch of an educational opportunity for history, which is a really interesting response that signals she still has willing supporters despite that info.


Biased or not her record is her record. It will be a problem. Florida is also a huge enough problem to disqualify her.
[Post New]07/27/2020 02:57
Anonymous
I dont know about the strategy but I have a feeling it is going to be Harris. She is dynamic and (aside from the bussing attack) her and Biden have excellent chemistry. This is just my guess, not a comment of electability or strategy. We all know Biden (and the mainstream dems at large) tend to be awful political players.
[Post New]07/27/2020 03:24
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I dont know about the strategy but I have a feeling it is going to be Harris. She is dynamic and (aside from the bussing attack) her and Biden have excellent chemistry. This is just my guess, not a comment of electability or strategy. We all know Biden (and the mainstream dems at large) tend to be awful political players.

I agree with every point.
[Post New]07/27/2020 08:05
Anonymous
Well...seems like at least one on the vetting team are going for anyone but Harris.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829
[Post New]07/27/2020 08:14
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well...seems like at least one on the vetting team are going for anyone but Harris.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829


Dodd is Biden’s closest confidante on the vetting team. I wonder if they’re not prepping the public for the fact she won’t be the pick. I hope not, don’t think for a second Biden can trust her and I so dislike her cheap prosecutorial theatrics. Bass or Duckworth are loyal and would give him the Obama-like trust and partnership he’s looking for. Also Harris is not strong when discussing policy. She seems very far from a “do no harm” pick to me.

[Post New]07/27/2020 09:05
Anonymous
Interesting...I wasn’t aware Susan Rice was involved in setting up the Global Health Security unit and the pandemic playbook ....which Trump ignored. Her stock rises in my view.

Xx https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/susan-rice-daily-show-pandemic-covid-19-trump-1031747/
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