Biden's VP?

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Anonymous wrote:Liker her, or not, it's Kamala. Take a look at what she's been up to the last couple of weeks. Done deal.

Not happening. Too many negatives.

Your flooding this thread with this same sentiment won't make your perspective more credible.

NP: I've been a fan of Harris as VP. But I was talking to my mom this morning - she's white, in her late 70s, hates Trump, totally addicted to MSNBC - and she was telling me there's just something about Harris she doesn't like. My mom is my barometer for how normal Democrats are responding to the world - and if she's feeling this way about Harris, I am going to guess that plenty of other people do, too.

I still like Harris. But now I worry she doesn't pass the Mom test.

Same here

West Coaster here with Midwestern mom. We’ve literally had the same conversation. She would never vote for Trump, but she points out all of her neighbors will if Biden picks the wrong VP. She loves Cuomo and she insists her neighbors do as well.

Eep. It can't be Cuomo. Is there anyone else she likes - or is at least neutral about? How's she feeling about Duckworth or Demmings?

She doesn’t like either Demings or Duckworth. Right or wrong, she feels Trump will vilify a woman of color and it will work—just like 2016.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think most will like Bass when they get to know her. She’s very calm and personable, and seems to have increasing support. Detailed new article:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/07/24/karen-bass-biden-vp-380583

That was a very good article and makes a strong case for a Biden/Bass one term fix things national untity ticket.

Gotta say, I think that's a good idea. But I'm also a huge Abrams fan and would also like a restore our Democracy ticket.

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The worst choices would be Susan Rice (comes across as a POC-version of Hillary, smug, polished, cosy with elites.) Not a good choice.

Kamala Harris has a kind of witchy vibe. Not someone to mess with, or trust. Not a good choice.

Elizabeth Warren has the most substance and could work well with Biden's everyman, regular-people thing.

But they also want/need someone who complements Biden, i.e., brings something he doesn't have... as in a certain state, a certain region, whatever.

We'll see...

But both Rice and Harris would be a mistake a la McCain picking Palin.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most will like Bass when they get to know her. She’s very calm and personable, and seems to have increasing support. Detailed new article:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/07/24/karen-bass-biden-vp-380583

That was a very good article and makes a strong case for a Biden/Bass one term fix things national untity ticket.

Gotta say, I think that's a good idea. But I'm also a huge Abrams fan and would also like a restore our Democracy ticket.

I didn't realize Bass had been a PA and nurse. That is very appealing.

This, too: "she's trusted by progressives but still respected by Republicans."

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Anonymous wrote:Harris?

Who is this woman?

What happened?

She's impressive. She does her homework. She's involved. She has ideas. She has fight.

I could easily listen to her for 4-8 years.

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Biden needs a theme. Unfortunately, I don't see any overarching theme with Kamala or Rice. Let me take that back. Rice does create a restore our alliances theme, I just don't see foreign policy as a winning theme this election.

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Kamala is a cop and her own daddy don’t like her.

Get real. Stacey!

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Anonymous wrote:Kamala is a cop and her own daddy don’t like her.

Get real. Stacey!

Stacey is a failed gubernatorial candidate (granted it was stolen from her). Her record in the Georgia state legislature is mediocre and fairly pro-business. I think she is a talented politician but she needs to run for Senate or Governor again to develop a record. Right now, all the hype around her is because she is black and politically talented, which in my opinion is quite patronizing.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst choices would be Susan Rice (comes across as a POC-version of Hillary, smug, polished, cosy with elites.) Not a good choice.

Kamala Harris has a kind of witchy vibe. Not someone to mess with, or trust. Not a good choice.

Elizabeth Warren has the most substance and could work well with Biden's everyman, regular-people thing.

But they also want/need someone who complements Biden, i.e., brings something he doesn't have... as in a certain state, a certain region, whatever.

We'll see...

But both Rice and Harris would be a mistake a la McCain picking Palin.

Harris and Rice would both be excellent choices. I agree some voters will be turned off. Newsflash: voters will be turned off by Karen Bass too. And Elizabeth Warren. And Stacey Abrams. And every other potential pick.

I hope he picks someone he likes personally and who is immediately qualified.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Harris?

Who is this woman?

What happened?

She's impressive. She does her homework. She's involved. She has ideas. She has fight.

I could easily listen to her for 4-8 years.

Oh me too....😍 she’s fantastic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kamala is a cop and her own daddy don’t like her.

Get real. Stacey!

Stacey is a failed gubernatorial candidate (granted it was stolen from her). Her record in the Georgia state legislature is mediocre and fairly pro-business. I think she is a talented politician but she needs to run for Senate or Governor again to develop a record. Right now, all the hype around her is because she is black and politically talented, which in my opinion is quite patronizing.

The hype is because she is super smart, relatively apolitical, honest, not overly ambitious, someone new, and strong on voting rights/democracy issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kamala is a cop and her own daddy don’t like her.

Get real. Stacey!

Stacey is a failed gubernatorial candidate (granted it was stolen from her). Her record in the Georgia state legislature is mediocre and fairly pro-business. I think she is a talented politician but she needs to run for Senate or Governor again to develop a record. Right now, all the hype around her is because she is black and politically talented, which in my opinion is quite patronizing.

The hype is because she is super smart, relatively apolitical, honest, not overly ambitious, someone new, and strong on voting rights/democracy issues.

NP-I love Abrams for all the reasons you stated. Except she is incredibly ambitious. The primary / veepstakes has made that very clear. It is what I like about her. She is clear about her ambitions, and doesn’t hide it at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liker her, or not, it's Kamala. Take a look at what she's been up to the last couple of weeks. Done deal.

Not happening. Too many negatives.

Your flooding this thread with this same sentiment won't make your perspective more credible.

NP: I've been a fan of Harris as VP. But I was talking to my mom this morning - she's white, in her late 70s, hates Trump, totally addicted to MSNBC - and she was telling me there's just something about Harris she doesn't like. My mom is my barometer for how normal Democrats are responding to the world - and if she's feeling this way about Harris, I am going to guess that plenty of other people do, too.

I still like Harris. But now I worry she doesn't pass the Mom test.

Same here

West Coaster here with Midwestern mom. We’ve literally had the same conversation. She would never vote for Trump, but she points out all of her neighbors will if Biden picks the wrong VP. She loves Cuomo and she insists her neighbors do as well.

I've had the same conversation with my parents. They're moderate Republicans. They would never in a million years vote for Harris.

Biden will lose a ton of moderate democrats/moderate Republicans with Harris. I know this demographic really, really well because it's what I come from. They'll simply never vote for Harris.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kamala is a cop and her own daddy don’t like her.

Get real. Stacey!

Stacey is a failed gubernatorial candidate (granted it was stolen from her). Her record in the Georgia state legislature is mediocre and fairly pro-business. I think she is a talented politician but she needs to run for Senate or Governor again to develop a record. Right now, all the hype around her is because she is black and politically talented, which in my opinion is quite patronizing.

+1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The worst choices would be Susan Rice (comes across as a POC-version of Hillary, smug, polished, cosy with elites.) Not a good choice.

Kamala Harris has a kind of witchy vibe. Not someone to mess with, or trust. Not a good choice.

Elizabeth Warren has the most substance and could work well with Biden's everyman, regular-people thing.

But they also want/need someone who complements Biden, i.e., brings something he doesn't have... as in a certain state, a certain region, whatever.

We'll see...

But both Rice and Harris would be a mistake a la McCain picking Palin.

Harris and Rice would both be excellent choices. I agree some voters will be turned off. Newsflash: voters will be turned off by Karen Bass too. And Elizabeth Warren. And Stacey Abrams. And every other potential pick.

I hope he picks someone he likes personally and who is immediately qualified.

This. He needs to pick the best person for the job required over the next 4 years. There will always be a critic. Pick the right person where criticism isn’t a threat to their success. I have my preferences but I am comfortable ultimately with whomever he selects. He could choose to select a mannequin as VP, I’m committed to the vote either way.

I like what I’ve learned so far about Bass. Her humility and social acceptance is very appealing as a bonus. It will be needed for the repair work that lies ahead.