FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious-with the public meeting, will it go on as long as there are people who want to speak? they don't seem to be limiting sign ups.

Each speaker only gets two minutes but they typically don’t limit the number of speakers if it’s boundary-related.

Speakers should advocate for SPAs [school planning areas] or portions of current SPAs to be moved into Westfield based on:
1. site location relative to other jurisdictions-Loudoun, Prince William. Only contiguous sites are Chantilly and Centreville. Thing is not surrounded by other FCPS sites.
2. site location relative to shared contiguous boundaries- Dulles Airport essentially bisects it's current area and if that is not a manmade entity what is?
3. site capacity for core as built 2500 - addition was classroom only hence the core is cramped if you go by program capacity
4. Chantilly should be reduced to at least 95% without modulars-they age
5. Centreville addition is a moot point. Robinson borders Centreville and it's location is near Lake Braddock. Robinson has an ancient modular plus FX county residents overload City of Fairfax HS
6. no need to get into FARMS, ESL based on the above. It's all in capacity utilization modulars.

Dixit and whoever is running against her are a sham considering the massive feed from Liberty MS to Rocky Run for AAP. Groups of involved parents have advocated for AAP moved or put in at sites yet these people lack common sense. Given improved operational efficiency on transportation, facilities utilization, at large board members like McElveen and Moon need to intervene.

Maps with School Planning Areas were not shared with the public, so its impossible to do this.

It is not impossible. FCPS facilities did Coates pre BRAC so essentially you saw K-6 counts generated. Crossfield was not in consideration so if logic prevailed it would have been off for Skyview. That happened in the final. What didn't happen was movement into Westfield from Chantilly and Centreville working from FCPS generated totals on non Coates boundary process SPAs. Those totals are still online for the discarded options ABCD.

Focus on Option B which is closest to the final recommendation. https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-10/western_high_school_options.pdf FCPS school board members have used language like "outside study scope area" to politically remove some areas that could get changed BUT that was customarily presented with data confirming why. Why meant existing available capacity at contiguous sites or lack of sites for dominoes. So like BRAC working off 105% with modulars this is not normal for FCPS.

Politicians have removed specific areas from the scope of study??? That's why McElveen and Moon need to activate themselves. Both were around for the 2019 Mclean study which used that language and the FCPS report on meetings was more thorough than what is out now for a new high school opening.

[Anonymous]

Ryan and Moon have been not involved for Skyview boundary at all. I don't see them engaged or present at any boundary meetings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

The current scenario leaves Centreville over capacity. Its a small building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

I don't think losing 100- 150 students has the same effect on classes, electives and staff as losing 600-700 students.

Overcrowding at Centreville was one of the reasons given for buying the new school. The current plan only moves out 70 kids and leaves it still overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ryan and Moon have been not involved for Skyview boundary at all. I don't see them engaged or present at any boundary meetings.

Politically smart, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

How many kids do you think is reasonable to move out of Centreville?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious-with the public meeting, will it go on as long as there are people who want to speak? they don't seem to be limiting sign ups.

Each speaker only gets two minutes but they typically don’t limit the number of speakers if it’s boundary-related.

Speakers should advocate for SPAs [school planning areas] or portions of current SPAs to be moved into Westfield based on:
1. site location relative to other jurisdictions-Loudoun, Prince William. Only contiguous sites are Chantilly and Centreville. Thing is not surrounded by other FCPS sites.
2. site location relative to shared contiguous boundaries- Dulles Airport essentially bisects it's current area and if that is not a manmade entity what is?
3. site capacity for core as built 2500 - addition was classroom only hence the core is cramped if you go by program capacity
4. Chantilly should be reduced to at least 95% without modulars-they age
5. Centreville addition is a moot point. Robinson borders Centreville and it's location is near Lake Braddock. Robinson has an ancient modular plus FX county residents overload City of Fairfax HS
6. no need to get into FARMS, ESL based on the above. It's all in capacity utilization modulars.

Dixit and whoever is running against her are a sham considering the massive feed from Liberty MS to Rocky Run for AAP. Groups of involved parents have advocated for AAP moved or put in at sites yet these people lack common sense. Given improved operational efficiency on transportation, facilities utilization, at large board members like McElveen and Moon need to intervene.

Word salad poster has arrived!

You think it's word salad? You, friends, relatives live in residences currently assigned to Chantilly and Centreville that reasonable people would move to Westfield? FYI there was a period when FCPS CIPs showed spread sheets on contiguous boundaries. Got scrapped because it showed some obvious moves. Look at a FCPS maps and you figure out where it can find students for Westfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

The current scenario leaves Centreville over capacity. Its a small building.

So that’s your strategy - don’t screw Westfield, keep screwing those smaller schools with less capacity? Even when there’s a plan to renovate and expand Centreville?

That’s basically reverting to the first set proposals that they tossed out. Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

I think Westfield is (reasonably) freaking out in part bc they are not confident they will even be left with a mere 2083 kids when its all said and done. Not moving back the Brookfield kids is a huge injustice to them, and the Cub Run/Walney people are pitching tantrums.

2083 kids with a 40-50% FARMs rate means losing a lot of APs and electives. I can't imagine how bad that would be with 1800 kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

The current scenario leaves Centreville over capacity. Its a small building.

So that’s your strategy - don’t screw Westfield, keep screwing those smaller schools with less capacity? Even when there’s a plan to renovate and expand Centreville?

That’s basically reverting to the first set proposals that they tossed out. Good luck with that.

Westfield is already getting screwed, now the conversation is about the magnitude of the screwing.

What do you think is a reasonable number to leave at Centreville?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

The current scenario leaves Centreville over capacity. Its a small building.

So that’s your strategy - don’t screw Westfield, keep screwing those smaller schools with less capacity? Even when there’s a plan to renovate and expand Centreville?

That’s basically reverting to the first set proposals that they tossed out. Good luck with that.

No, multiple proposals had all of Bull Run moving over to Westfield. PP is suggesting leaving the areas by Centre Ridge at Centreville, and moving the distant areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

I don't think losing 100- 150 students has the same effect on classes, electives and staff as losing 600-700 students.

Overcrowding at Centreville was one of the reasons given for buying the new school. The current plan only moves out 70 kids and leaves it still overcrowded.

Centreville has lost 400 kids over the past few years. Pull several hundred more out as originally floated and the cumulative impact is equal to what may happen at Westfield, plus Centreville would have 300 fewer students.

You are not going to get what you want at Westfield by gutting Centreville.

[Anonymous]

Even if Centreville is expanded, the capacity won't be there until the next round of boundary adjustments. They can't even reach an agreement with the county on the plans. Extra seats there are many years away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

I don't think losing 100- 150 students has the same effect on classes, electives and staff as losing 600-700 students.

Overcrowding at Centreville was one of the reasons given for buying the new school. The current plan only moves out 70 kids and leaves it still overcrowded.

Centreville has lost 400 kids over the past few years. Pull several hundred more out as originally floated and the cumulative impact is equal to what may happen at Westfield, plus Centreville would have 300 fewer students.

You are not going to get what you want at Westfield by gutting Centreville.

How is losing 100 kids the same as losing 600 kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6404 is Seema's SPA. Pretty clear they and 6401 should have gone to Westfield. They border Westfield neighborhoods and are very far away from CVHS.

100% agree.

who's going to stand up at the meeting and point out she lives in 6404 and 6404 was moved in fourteen different maps to WF?

I don’t think you are going to be able to revive an earlier proposal that would leave Centreville with only 1825 or so kids, if that’s what you have in mind. Westfield is freaking out about going down to 2083.

I don't think losing 100- 150 students has the same effect on classes, electives and staff as losing 600-700 students.

Overcrowding at Centreville was one of the reasons given for buying the new school. The current plan only moves out 70 kids and leaves it still overcrowded.

Centreville has lost 400 kids over the past few years. Pull several hundred more out as originally floated and the cumulative impact is equal to what may happen at Westfield, plus Centreville would have 300 fewer students.

You are not going to get what you want at Westfield by gutting Centreville.

What areas do you think make sense to be moved out of Centreville to Westfield to reduce the overcrowding at Centreville?