I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS must have a plan for MS and HS kids that need to quarentine. Concurrent over Google Meet really is the only solution.

Sorry teachers.


Not sorry teachers. Sorry to all the kids who would get again have compromised learning experiences. They won’t require quarantine if all were masked. Which is why all will be masked at all levels.


You don't know that. FCPS has yet to release their plan


The plan is NO CONCURRENT!!!

It’s not happening. End of story. It’s not in our job description this year. We are teaching in person to the kids in the class and that’s it. We will work with families who need help catching up if sick.

As for quarantine plan, FCPS would need their own plan different from what CDC says and not make masked contacts quarantine. Last year, even at the end, CDC was still saying that being masked didn’t change contact status and quarantine was required.


From this spring:

The “classroom monitor” program, which secured temporary workers to effectively babysit classes taught by teachers working remotely, will end forever come fall, Brabrand said. Ditto for the “concurrent” model of teaching, which asked teachers to simultaneously instruct children learning remotely and children learning inside the classroom.



I’m the OP of this thread and the thing is, famous last words...Braband and company haven’t exactly been a shining example of foresight and strategic thinking. The situation with Delta is different than what was anticipated when some of these statements were being made at the end of the school year. I so don’t want concurrent but if enough kids are out of school for whatever reason the pressure is going to be on them to revert back.

From my perspective, so many missed opportunities all along. Why are the public schools not doing any kind of regular testing, even daurveillance testing or pooled testing?


Because… Dr. Gloria
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I feel so sorry for the kids of these anxious parents.
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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.


Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.


Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.


I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.


I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.


Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.


As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.


And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.


And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.


Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers


No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.
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Anonymous wrote:I feel so sorry for the kids of these anxious parents.


Anxious is one way to describe them.
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Anonymous wrote:I feel so sorry for the kids of these anxious parents.


I feel bad for kids whose parents think nothing of putting them in an unsafe situation.
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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.


Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.


Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.


I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.


I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.


Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.


As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.


And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.


And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.


Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers


No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.


No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.
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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.


Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.


Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.


I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.


I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.


Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.


As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.


And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.



Sorry. This is just wrong on so many levels.


Wrong is being in a pandemic and forcing kids to stay home for weeks on end and not allowing them to have access to the class in HS. My kid will be in 10th grade with 4 AP courses. They will fly past material and he cannot afford to miss school. And when he is applying to colleges no college will say oh well he did poorly in 10th due his week long + quarantine due to covid in 2021.


Or you could have them drop a couple AP classes... Oh no...


We are in a pandemic. If you choose in person, you are understanding the risks involved.
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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.


Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.


Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.


I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.


I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.


Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.


As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.


And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.


And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.


Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers


No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.


No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.


Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.
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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.


Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.


Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.


I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.


I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.


Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.


As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.


And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.


And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.


Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers


No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.


No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.


Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.


This is true. What remains to be seen is if it holds true with all the kids back in at once again and with the transmissibility of Delta. Hopefully it does!
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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.


Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.


Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.


I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.


I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.


Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.


As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.


And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.


And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.


Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers


No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.


No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.


Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.


Uh … yes they did. Look at fully open states Covid numbers for schools.
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Three facts to keep in mind. No idea how this will play out, but let's not lie to ourselves.

1) Last spring schools were not at full capacity and to kids were (generally) socially distancing. This summer, schools were even less full. From a purely analytic perspective, you cannot say that Fall MUST yield the same results.

2) Delta is spreading 50% faster than Alpha, which was 50% more contagious than the original strain of SARS-CoV-2

3) Kids almost never do not die of covid. The rates of long term covid and it's effects of covid are unclear.

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Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.
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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.


You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.
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Anonymous wrote:I feel so sorry for the kids of these anxious parents.


I feel bad for kids whose parents think nothing of putting them in an unsafe situation.


That’s not coronavirus now for kids.
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Use this data for comparison. Go back and look at the data in March and April when we were back in person. If we did it then we can do it now!

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/key-measures/pandemic-metrics/school-metrics/
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