Teacher turnover

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More principals should be like Neal. Parents don’t have nearly the sway they think they do and managing a 1,000+ person school means that subsets of parents are always gonna be unhappy. This past year beside, kids love their deal experience and that’s what matters.

Talk to the subset of parents of kids with special needs at Deal. Different experience.

Or all the kids who get bullied yet the bullying isn’t ever addressed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The truth is, all of DCPS is moving toward using online programs, distributing assignments online, having students complete assignments online, and grading them online. That's where we were headed before COVID and it's going to continue.

Well that will solve the teacher shortage problem and the holding kids accountable for learning anything problem. As for everyone and high test scores for everyone! Just copy everything!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The truth is, all of DCPS is moving toward using online programs, distributing assignments online, having students complete assignments online, and grading them online. That's where we were headed before COVID and it's going to continue.

Well that will solve the teacher shortage problem and the holding kids accountable for learning anything problem. As for everyone and high test scores for everyone! Just copy everything!

Heck no that’s not where I’m headed.

[Anonymous]

Sounds about right

[Anonymous]

We're already there. Former teacher from MCPS MD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:lafayette is losing a lot of teachers and other staff.

...and the losses seem to all share a demographic characteristic

[Anonymous]

Oyster-Adams lost 17 employees from the 21-22 school year including:

1 Vice Principal
1 Instructional Coach
3 Front Office Staff Members
4 General Education Teachers
2 Special Education Teachers
1 Specials Teacher
2 Paraprofessionals
1 ELL/Reading Specialist
1 Behavior Tech
1 Maintenance Worker

[Anonymous]

Janney is still down 3 HR teachers, an AP and 4 aides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS has a very high rate of teacher turnover which is worrying because they pay teachers higher than all the surrounding districts.

Former DCPS teacher: the higher salary in itself does not compensate for the extremely punitive evaluation instrument, the lack of teacher support regarding disruptive/abusive students, or the way admin micromanages teachers, i.e. you will teach this content, at this time, in this way. I loved my job prior to Michelle Rhee. She and the administrators she spawned succeeded in sucking every bit of joy out of teaching at DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The truth is, all of DCPS is moving toward using online programs, distributing assignments online, having students complete assignments online, and grading them online. That's where we were headed before COVID and it's going to continue.

Well that will solve the teacher shortage problem and the holding kids accountable for learning anything problem. As for everyone and high test scores for everyone! Just copy everything!

academic integrity is a huge problem

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care if teachers leave. Everyone is replaceable. I just want my kids back in class, in front of ANY teacher.

You can say that, but i work in admin at a WOTP school in DCPS and we can’t fill all of our vacancies because the pool is so shallow. You will most likely see those positions filled by first year teachers or TFA type who are only around for two years.

Judging by most teachers' comments on DCUM, it seems that most teachers hate their jobs. Maybe it's a good thing if they quit. We can replace them with people who actually want to educate children.

Not a great business model. High turnover requires costly recruiting and training and has a negative impact on school climate and academic achievement. However, if all you're looking for is free childcare, maybe it makes sense.

[Anonymous]

To PPs who are okay with turnover I guess that’s fine but the district is only focused on recruiting teachers, no retaining them. It’s funny when parents write stuff like this because our school gets so many complaints about first year teachers and not being able to teach because of classroom management issues. Teaching is a job that must people are just not good at for the first two or three years. Not everyone ends up being a rockstar teacher but most can be generally effective. But if everyone is leaving after three years that’s only one year of maybe effective teachignZ. You are basically saying you just want a warm body in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To PPs who are okay with turnover I guess that’s fine but the district is only focused on recruiting teachers, no retaining them. It’s funny when parents write stuff like this because our school gets so many complaints about first year teachers and not being able to teach because of classroom management issues. Teaching is a job that must people are just not good at for the first two or three years. Not everyone ends up being a rockstar teacher but most can be generally effective. But if everyone is leaving after three years that’s only one year of maybe effective teachignZ. You are basically saying you just want a warm body in the classroom.

But what percentage of teachers are really only intending to do it for 3 years, particularly in DC? It seems like DC is a transitory city in general. Add to that people that just got out of school are generally younger (and therefore more likely to be transitory). So I'm wondering how much of DC's revolving door of teachers is about the DC system being problematic and how much is just DC. I'm sure there are parts of both, I just don't know.

[Anonymous]

This thread is exhibit A of why you should never believe the “experts” in this forum, they were sure that turnover is school specific and it is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS has a very high rate of teacher turnover which is worrying because they pay teachers higher than all the surrounding districts.

Former DCPS teacher: the higher salary in itself does not compensate for the extremely punitive evaluation instrument, the lack of teacher support regarding disruptive/abusive students, or the way admin micromanages teachers, i.e. you will teach this content, at this time, in this way. I loved my job prior to Michelle Rhee. She and the administrators she spawned succeeded in sucking every bit of joy out of teaching at DCPS.

So true! Peace of mind is so much more valuable.