demoralized in MCPS

[Anonymous]

If Restorative Justice is implemented correctly, it gives the offender an opportunity to reflect on the harmful action and an opportunity to change behavior so it aligns with expected behavior. It provides healing for the victim that does not happen with the traditional punishment scenario. The victim is supported in telling the perpetrator the impact of his/her actions. The victim should come a way that there is atonement and plan to do better.

The problem in MCPS is there is no fidelity to using Restorative Justice. A principal can profess support for Restorative Justice just to be politically correct then never use it or Central Office resources in practice. This is a problem of bad leadership, not a problem with Restorative Justice.

[Anonymous]

There are some students that this doesn’t work with for a variety of reasons (students in constant crisis, psychopaths/sociopaths, strong peer influence, gangs influence, parents overriding proper behavior patterns,etc.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are some students that this doesn’t work with for a variety of reasons (students in constant crisis, psychopaths/sociopaths, strong peer influence, gangs influence, parents overriding proper behavior patterns,etc.)

Perhaps. However, MCPS says statistically it works for most students. The Restorative Justice office at the Carver Center presented info at a PTA meeting at our school this past year. The principal said she supported the use of Restorative Justice but didn't use it when some problems came up.

I often wonder if there is an inherent racial bias in MCPS to reserve nonpunitive measures for some students then throw multi-day suspensions at others because of the offender's race. That seems to be the pattern at our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the "insider" view -- it's disheartening but that's not your fault. I guess you can't name the school, but are you at the ES, MS, or HS level? What's the FARMS rate?

Ours are just entering MCPS, and I plan to get more involved in school issues as I see MCPS just being grossly mismanaged. I know I'll be out their campaiging at the next BoE election for anyone who is not an incumbent.

I'm surprised MCEA is unable to do anything. They've been notorious for securing great benefits packages for teachers -- better than any other county employees -- so why can't they step in to protect their members?

What does the FATMS rate have to do with it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some students that this doesn’t work with for a variety of reasons (students in constant crisis, psychopaths/sociopaths, strong peer influence, gangs influence, parents overriding proper behavior patterns,etc.)

Perhaps. However, MCPS says statistically it works for most students. The Restorative Justice office at the Carver Center presented info at a PTA meeting at our school this past year. The principal said she supported the use of Restorative Justice but didn't use it when some problems came up.

I often wonder if there is an inherent racial bias in MCPS to reserve nonpunitive measures for some students then throw multi-day suspensions at others because of the offender's race. That seems to be the pattern at our school.

Lol
You believe the county? I want some of your drugs!

Admin loves covering up referrals & suspensions. So data are skewed. There are many kids just sent back to the classroom after an " intervention" has occurred. And the kids are repeat offenders. But nothing is ever officially logged in. That's why it's imperative that teachers document everything. I loved showing logs at meetings - with admin not following through on their end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some students that this doesn’t work with for a variety of reasons (students in constant crisis, psychopaths/sociopaths, strong peer influence, gangs influence, parents overriding proper behavior patterns,etc.)

Perhaps. However, MCPS says statistically it works for most students. The Restorative Justice office at the Carver Center presented info at a PTA meeting at our school this past year. The principal said she supported the use of Restorative Justice but didn't use it when some problems came up.

I often wonder if there is an inherent racial bias in MCPS to reserve nonpunitive measures for some students then throw multi-day suspensions at others because of the offender's race. That seems to be the pattern at our school.

Lol
You believe the county? I want some of your drugs!

Admin loves covering up referrals & suspensions. So data are skewed. There are many kids just sent back to the classroom after an " intervention" has occurred. And the kids are repeat offenders. But nothing is ever officially logged in. That's why it's imperative that teachers document everything. I loved showing logs at meetings - with admin not following through on their end.

Different teacher here. I’ve observed the bias with the dress code and earbuds for years at three different schools. AA and Latino girls get in trouble for wearing the exact garments as white girls. The exact garment not just a similar style. An Asian or white boy walks by with earbuds in and teachers say nothing, but harass the AA and Latino boys. The students see the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some students that this doesn’t work with for a variety of reasons (students in constant crisis, psychopaths/sociopaths, strong peer influence, gangs influence, parents overriding proper behavior patterns,etc.)

Perhaps. However, MCPS says statistically it works for most students. The Restorative Justice office at the Carver Center presented info at a PTA meeting at our school this past year. The principal said she supported the use of Restorative Justice but didn't use it when some problems came up.

I often wonder if there is an inherent racial bias in MCPS to reserve nonpunitive measures for some students then throw multi-day suspensions at others because of the offender's race. That seems to be the pattern at our school.

Lol
You believe the county? I want some of your drugs!

Admin loves covering up referrals & suspensions. So data are skewed. There are many kids just sent back to the classroom after an " intervention" has occurred. And the kids are repeat offenders. But nothing is ever officially logged in. That's why it's imperative that teachers document everything. I loved showing logs at meetings - with admin not following through on their end.

Different teacher here. I’ve observed the bias with the dress code and earbuds for years at three different schools. AA and Latino girls get in trouble for wearing the exact garments as white girls. The exact garment not just a similar style. An Asian or white boy walks by with earbuds in and teachers say nothing, but harass the AA and Latino boys. The students see the difference.

What about schools that are majority AA and Latino? If they are the ones committing infractions then there should be consequences. Schools are not allowed to enforce consequences for these students. You can’t say the white and Asian kids are getting away with the same things because white and Asian kids are few and far between. But because the trouble makers are AA or Latino, they are considered untouchable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some students that this doesn’t work with for a variety of reasons (students in constant crisis, psychopaths/sociopaths, strong peer influence, gangs influence, parents overriding proper behavior patterns,etc.)

Perhaps. However, MCPS says statistically it works for most students. The Restorative Justice office at the Carver Center presented info at a PTA meeting at our school this past year. The principal said she supported the use of Restorative Justice but didn't use it when some problems came up.

I often wonder if there is an inherent racial bias in MCPS to reserve nonpunitive measures for some students then throw multi-day suspensions at others because of the offender's race. That seems to be the pattern at our school.

Lol
You believe the county? I want some of your drugs!

Admin loves covering up referrals & suspensions. So data are skewed. There are many kids just sent back to the classroom after an " intervention" has occurred. And the kids are repeat offenders. But nothing is ever officially logged in. That's why it's imperative that teachers document everything. I loved showing logs at meetings - with admin not following through on their end.

Different teacher here. I’ve observed the bias with the dress code and earbuds for years at three different schools. AA and Latino girls get in trouble for wearing the exact garments as white girls. The exact garment not just a similar style. An Asian or white boy walks by with earbuds in and teachers say nothing, but harass the AA and Latino boys. The students see the difference.

What about schools that are majority AA and Latino? If they are the ones committing infractions then there should be consequences. Schools are not allowed to enforce consequences for these students. You can’t say the white and Asian kids are getting away with the same things because white and Asian kids are few and far between. But because the trouble makers are AA or Latino, they are considered untouchable.

I have seen this at a majority Latino middle and the pattern remained the same. Nil enforcement for the white and Asian kids who broke these two rules. Heavily policed for Latino and AA students. Another disparity was in checking hall passes.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the main job of admin is to learn how to conduct fraud and cover-ups because God knows they are NOT helping educators the slightest. Someone tell the admin scumbag who discounts the opinion of teachers that they are a douche bag scum of the earth parasite. Go fraud something!

[Anonymous]

What's up with all the black and brown people always bitching about black and brown people. They actually set white folks up to join a conversation in terms of black and brown people and then call them racist for pointing out black and brown people. Is this a game????

[Anonymous]

This is what CT s do when they want white people out.

[Anonymous]

Restorative justice may be great for the perpetrator - no real consequences just reflection, blahblahblah. But it doesn’t do much for the victim - there is no restoration. And the perpetrators often say what they have to to get free of the situation and then do whatever they want including victimizing the same kid or another. They aren’t stupid and neither are the victims. They all know how it works by now. BTDT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's up with all the black and brown people always bitching about black and brown people. They actually set white folks up to join a conversation in terms of black and brown people and then call them racist for pointing out black and brown people. Is this a game????

Wut?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's up with all the black and brown people always bitching about black and brown people. They actually set white folks up to join a conversation in terms of black and brown people and then call them racist for pointing out black and brown people. Is this a game????

Yes.... It is. It's a way to create perpetual victimhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's up with all the black and brown people always bitching about black and brown people. They actually set white folks up to join a conversation in terms of black and brown people and then call them racist for pointing out black and brown people. Is this a game????

What about the yellow people?