New Report on Racial and Economic Diversity in DC public and charter schools

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Anonymous wrote:It is inevitable that DC will have to adopt a random lottery placement system for public schools, like in San Francisco. Neighborhood-based schools are inherently exclusionary. Only with a true DC-wide lottery (with diversity adjustments) will DC achieve equity.

Why not forced busing?

Hey bro, the Seventies are over.

Doesn't matter what era, if it's the only way to get DC schools integrated. Typically, people only object when it affects them personally.

Obviously.

If you put some kids zoned in the Janney cluster on some forced bus to Marion Barry High, you’d see a Brooks Brothers riot.

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Anonymous wrote:Wilson may be “diverse” but for the most part, the white kids and the black kids do not socialise together. There is some mixing but not as much as you would expect. I don’t think you can force this stuff. Also, the principal seems to hate that Wilson is supposedly a neighborhood school as she is always complaining about all the entitled white kids. She keeps wanting to create more on-level (not challenging) classes for the lowest performing kids and has no interest in more advanced options for kids who need more than what Wilson is offering.

Much of what you wrote is just not true.
Signed, current Wilson parent

Another Wilson parent here and I don’t think it is wrong at all. Principal has communicated many times that she has no issues with overcrowding as she wants Wilson to be open to students from all wards. That is not her decision to make. Wilson is supposed to be a neighborhood school. She often refers to the ward 3 parents as annoying and entitled. I don’t think that is cool.

No, Wilson is supposed to comply with feeder and boundary policies set by our elected officials, which the schools is doing. Nowhere is it written that Wilson is "supposed to be a neighborhood school."

Also, in what context does the Wilson principal "often refer to ward 3 parents as entitled and annoying"? I've never heard that, and I can't imagine in what situation I would heard that. Did you just pull that out of your @ss?

Nope. I read all her newsletters from August to December and she is always scolding the neighborhood parents. Do you read them? She pretty much said that overcrowding is not something she wants to do anything about as she does not want to reduce the number of AA kids at the school. Also, that other principals always tell her that they would never want to be at Wilson because of the annoying and hyper parents, etc.

Why is she still around? She has the views of some Barry-era relic even though she’s not from DC. Didn’t she get her kid into Wilson by going around the lottery?

I think she would be happier being principal of Roosevelt, Coolidge, Dunbar, etc., given how much she complains about ward 3 parents. More disturbing to me, none of my kids teachers seem to like her or feel she is helpful to them.

Why would teachers share this with parents of their students?? Seems highly inappropriate and unprofessional to gossip with parents about school leadership.

It is how change happens.

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Anonymous wrote:It is inevitable that DC will have to adopt a random lottery placement system for public schools, like in San Francisco. Neighborhood-based schools are inherently exclusionary. Only with a true DC-wide lottery (with diversity adjustments) will DC achieve equity.

Why not forced busing?

Hey bro, the Seventies are over.

Doesn't matter what era, if it's the only way to get DC schools integrated. Typically, people only object when it affects them personally.

Obviously.

If you put some kids zoned in the Janney cluster on some forced bus to Marion Barry High, you’d see a Brooks Brothers riot.

Exactly. Yet it happened across the south. Get it going in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:It is inevitable that DC will have to adopt a random lottery placement system for public schools, like in San Francisco. Neighborhood-based schools are inherently exclusionary. Only with a true DC-wide lottery (with diversity adjustments) will DC achieve equity.

Why not forced busing?

Hey bro, the Seventies are over.

Doesn't matter what era, if it's the only way to get DC schools integrated. Typically, people only object when it affects them personally.

Obviously.

If you put some kids zoned in the Janney cluster on some forced bus to Marion Barry High, you’d see a Brooks Brothers riot.

Exactly. Yet it happened across the south. Get it going in DC.

Only if you want to see white (and Asian) flight from the public schools and from the District itself.

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Anonymous wrote:It is inevitable that DC will have to adopt a random lottery placement system for public schools, like in San Francisco. Neighborhood-based schools are inherently exclusionary. Only with a true DC-wide lottery (with diversity adjustments) will DC achieve equity.

Why not forced busing?

Hey bro, the Seventies are over.

Doesn't matter what era, if it's the only way to get DC schools integrated. Typically, people only object when it affects them personally.

Obviously.

If you put some kids zoned in the Janney cluster on some forced bus to Marion Barry High, you’d see a Brooks Brothers riot.

Exactly. Yet it happened across the south. Get it going in DC.

Problem is fairfax, MoCo and Arlington are waiting with open arms. You simply can’t force people with money to do something they don’t want to do. Besides if 77% of DC kids are at risk, there are simply not enough magic white kids to help. Instead of looking for job SES kids to do the parenting how about we starting looking at the parents. Ok it’s hard to parent while poor, so F-in what? What is that my problem

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Anonymous wrote:It is inevitable that DC will have to adopt a random lottery placement system for public schools, like in San Francisco. Neighborhood-based schools are inherently exclusionary. Only with a true DC-wide lottery (with diversity adjustments) will DC achieve equity.

Why not forced busing?

Hey bro, the Seventies are over.

Doesn't matter what era, if it's the only way to get DC schools integrated. Typically, people only object when it affects them personally.

Obviously.

If you put some kids zoned in the Janney cluster on some forced bus to Marion Barry High, you’d see a Brooks Brothers riot.

Exactly. Yet it happened across the south. Get it going in DC.

Only if you want to see white (and Asian) flight from the public schools and from the District itself.

More than it already happens, it has only been a few years since all most all of them left and most still do. This isn’t an irreversible trend.

Beside the only people who really want to blow up the system are the middle class who moved to the crappy parts and are jealous of established parts. They feel it isn’t fair and have nothing to lose and everything to gain by reshuffling the deck. But their intent isn’t diversity, it is to fast track their schools to look like the NW ones they couldn’t afford.

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More than it already happens, it has only been a few years since all most all of them left and most still do. This isn’t an irreversible trend.

Beside the only people who really want to blow up the system are the middle class who moved to the crappy parts and are jealous of established parts. They feel it isn’t fair and have nothing to lose and everything to gain by reshuffling the deck. But their intent isn’t diversity, it is to fast track their schools to look like the NW ones they couldn’t afford.

I don't get what you are saying. Shouldn't all kids have the same opportunity. Or do we need to punish the kids for not living in expensive enough homes

[Anonymous]

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More than it already happens, it has only been a few years since all most all of them left and most still do. This isn’t an irreversible trend.

Beside the only people who really want to blow up the system are the middle class who moved to the crappy parts and are jealous of established parts. They feel it isn’t fair and have nothing to lose and everything to gain by reshuffling the deck. But their intent isn’t diversity, it is to fast track their schools to look like the NW ones they couldn’t afford.

I don't get what you are saying. Shouldn't all kids have the same opportunity. Or do we need to punish the kids for not living in expensive enough homes

You Can’t fix the crappy schools by sending all the poor kids to NW. It is also disingenuous to buy a bigger house in a lesser area and then bitch about how the area isn’t the as nice and then lobby to water down the NW schools. Every middle class person who moved to an up and coming area knew what they were getting into and use some of that equity to go private, move or fund their local PTA to help those poor kids they chose to move near that are keeping them from going to their local school.

And no, all kids do not deserve a million dollar life style. It is their parents obligation to provide it not mine. There are billions of kids out there, they are not all equal. Besides if all kids go to Harvard, who is going to pour my coffee in the morning for chump change? Sounds messed up but it is a valid point. 50% or more of America’s workers are cheap-as-possible replaceable commodities. What you are lashing out at is the fast tracking to that end.

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Anonymous wrote:Wilson may be “diverse” but for the most part, the white kids and the black kids do not socialise together. There is some mixing but not as much as you would expect. I don’t think you can force this stuff. Also, the principal seems to hate that Wilson is supposedly a neighborhood school as she is always complaining about all the entitled white kids. She keeps wanting to create more on-level (not challenging) classes for the lowest performing kids and has no interest in more advanced options for kids who need more than what Wilson is offering.

Much of what you wrote is just not true.
Signed, current Wilson parent

Another Wilson parent here and I don’t think it is wrong at all. Principal has communicated many times that she has no issues with overcrowding as she wants Wilson to be open to students from all wards. That is not her decision to make. Wilson is supposed to be a neighborhood school. She often refers to the ward 3 parents as annoying and entitled. I don’t think that is cool.

No, Wilson is supposed to comply with feeder and boundary policies set by our elected officials, which the schools is doing. Nowhere is it written that Wilson is "supposed to be a neighborhood school."

Also, in what context does the Wilson principal "often refer to ward 3 parents as entitled and annoying"? I've never heard that, and I can't imagine in what situation I would heard that. Did you just pull that out of your @ss?

Nope. I read all her newsletters from August to December and she is always scolding the neighborhood parents. Do you read them? She pretty much said that overcrowding is not something she wants to do anything about as she does not want to reduce the number of AA kids at the school. Also, that other principals always tell her that they would never want to be at Wilson because of the annoying and hyper parents, etc.

Why is she still around? She has the views of some Barry-era relic even though she’s not from DC. Didn’t she get her kid into Wilson by going around the lottery?

I think she would be happier being principal of Roosevelt, Coolidge, Dunbar, etc., given how much she complains about ward 3 parents. More disturbing to me, none of my kids teachers seem to like her or feel she is helpful to them.

Why would teachers share this with parents of their students?? Seems highly inappropriate and unprofessional to gossip with parents about school leadership.

I have heard this also. When I have asked Wilson teachers about the principal or whether principal can help with a specific issue in class, they usually just shrug and say that they never see her and she doesn’t get involved in day to day school stuff. They don’t always say it but strongly imply that teachers are mostly on their own with minimal administrative support.

[Anonymous]

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More than it already happens, it has only been a few years since all most all of them left and most still do. This isn’t an irreversible trend.

Beside the only people who really want to blow up the system are the middle class who moved to the crappy parts and are jealous of established parts. They feel it isn’t fair and have nothing to lose and everything to gain by reshuffling the deck. But their intent isn’t diversity, it is to fast track their schools to look like the NW ones they couldn’t afford.

I don't get what you are saying. Shouldn't all kids have the same opportunity. Or do we need to punish the kids for not living in expensive enough homes

All kids who live in poor areas are punished by default, what we disagree on if you can fix generational poverty by making rich kids live a poorer lives. There will always be a gap, suppressing the top may make it look better but that won’t make the bottom any higher.

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Coolidge used to be the wealthiest school in DC before the riots. It was also predominantly white. My neighbor in CCDC graduated from there in ‘52. DC is changing. I want it integrated though.

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Anonymous wrote:Coolidge used to be the wealthiest school in DC before the riots. It was also predominantly white. My neighbor in CCDC graduated from there in ‘52. DC is changing. I want it integrated though.

Interesting prespective.

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Anonymous wrote:Coolidge used to be the wealthiest school in DC before the riots. It was also predominantly white. My neighbor in CCDC graduated from there in ‘52. DC is changing. I want it integrated though.

Interesting prespective.

Interesting 1980 article on that
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/06/08/the-graduates/6d0c04de-ac6e-4c9c-b3ff-57757bde85ca/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is inevitable that DC will have to adopt a random lottery placement system for public schools, like in San Francisco. Neighborhood-based schools are inherently exclusionary. Only with a true DC-wide lottery (with diversity adjustments) will DC achieve equity.

Why not forced busing?

Hey bro, the Seventies are over.

Doesn't matter what era, if it's the only way to get DC schools integrated. Typically, people only object when it affects them personally.

Obviously.

If you put some kids zoned in the Janney cluster on some forced bus to Marion Barry High, you’d see a Brooks Brothers riot.

Actually, it's time to end this white savior complex.

What they should do is to bus the black students from Sidwell and other top privates to Marion Barry High.

BLM and all that stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Wilson is now white majority. Coincides with the rise in graduation rates and test scores

Wilson is not majority white, moron.