New Report on Racial and Economic Diversity in DC public and charter schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.

I grounded one of my kids for saying “they” when referring to the singular. I want my children to respect property grammar. At least “it” would be more grammatically appropriate than “they.”

I feel sorry for your children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.

Latinx is an insult on the Spanish language perpetrated by clueless gringos.

I suspect you are either a fellow native English speaker or someone who has been living under a rock if you are not aware of the history of the push toward gender equality in Spanish. The movement toward neutralidad de genero, of which lantinx and latin@ are manifestations, is a large and multifaceted social movement going back to the 60s in countries like Colombia, Mexico and Spain. It has related movements in parenting (raising kids without gender stereotypes), fashion and even the politics of land reform. This year there have been giant street protests and strikes in Spain by feminists demanding equality in language and other areas, and there have been many arrests and confrontations with the government.

English speakers are picking this up now (and they tend to use x rather than the -- to me -- more logical @ form), but the idea of gender neutrality has been around and growing for a long time in the Spanish speaking world --- particularly with respect to pejorative feminine words like zorra, advenurera, mujer pública, callejera (all of which mean different non-pejorative things in the masculine form but mean "prostitute" in their feminine forms). Even the RAE is starting to support getting rid of feminine specific pejorative meanings (e.g. recent announcement about "mujer fácil").

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.

I grounded one of my kids for saying “they” when referring to the singular. I want my children to respect property grammar. At least “it” would be more grammatically appropriate than “they.”

No, you grounded your kid for not sharing your bias against trans and non-binary gendered people.

The notion of "proper" grammar in our garbage pail of a language (a bastard hybrid of Germanic roots with a huge infusions of Norman French vocabulary) is laughable considering that the main grammatical points that our annoying linguistic busybody relatives tend to harp on (e.g. no double negatives, insisting on "whom" while dropping all related case endings, etc.) were codified by three 19th century grammar books written by people with an education in Latin and Greek but no awareness whatsoever of linguistics or, more importantly, Middle and Old English in which, for example, double negatives were perfectly OK, as they are in EVERY SINGLE SPOKEN DIALECT OF ENGLISH from Cockney to Lowcountry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.

Latinx is an insult on the Spanish language perpetrated by clueless gringos.

I suspect you are either a fellow native English speaker or someone who has been living under a rock if you are not aware of the history of the push toward gender equality in Spanish. The movement toward neutralidad de genero, of which lantinx and latin@ are manifestations, is a large and multifaceted social movement going back to the 60s in countries like Colombia, Mexico and Spain. It has related movements in parenting (raising kids without gender stereotypes), fashion and even the politics of land reform. This year there have been giant street protests and strikes in Spain by feminists demanding equality in language and other areas, and there have been many arrests and confrontations with the government.

English speakers are picking this up now (and they tend to use x rather than the -- to me -- more logical @ form), but the idea of gender neutrality has been around and growing for a long time in the Spanish speaking world --- particularly with respect to pejorative feminine words like zorra, advenurera, mujer pública, callejera (all of which mean different non-pejorative things in the masculine form but mean "prostitute" in their feminine forms). Even the RAE is starting to support getting rid of feminine specific pejorative meanings (e.g. recent announcement about "mujer fácil").

I suspect your brain isn't working properly these days, as you fail to see the obvious.

Latin@s: Yes!

Latinx: Nope!

[Anonymous]

Well, considering English as a language dropped all of the gendered nouns ingrained in German, Spanish, and other languages, we should all be proud to speak such an advanced, modern creation as our English language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.

Latinx is an insult on the Spanish language perpetrated by clueless gringos.

I suspect you are either a fellow native English speaker or someone who has been living under a rock if you are not aware of the history of the push toward gender equality in Spanish. The movement toward neutralidad de genero, of which lantinx and latin@ are manifestations, is a large and multifaceted social movement going back to the 60s in countries like Colombia, Mexico and Spain. It has related movements in parenting (raising kids without gender stereotypes), fashion and even the politics of land reform. This year there have been giant street protests and strikes in Spain by feminists demanding equality in language and other areas, and there have been many arrests and confrontations with the government.

English speakers are picking this up now (and they tend to use x rather than the -- to me -- more logical @ form), but the idea of gender neutrality has been around and growing for a long time in the Spanish speaking world --- particularly with respect to pejorative feminine words like zorra, advenurera, mujer pública, callejera (all of which mean different non-pejorative things in the masculine form but mean "prostitute" in their feminine forms). Even the RAE is starting to support getting rid of feminine specific pejorative meanings (e.g. recent announcement about "mujer fácil").

I suspect your brain isn't working properly these days, as you fail to see the obvious.

Latin@s: Yes!

Latinx: Nope!

Reading comprehension in English is clearly not your strength.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is inevitable that DC will have to adopt a random lottery placement system for public schools, like in San Francisco. Neighborhood-based schools are inherently exclusionary. Only with a true DC-wide lottery (with diversity adjustments) will DC achieve equity.

It is not inevitable. You may not have been here in 2014 when this was suggested and people from every neighborhood rejected the idea. People prefer having a neighborhood school that is easy to get to than achieving racial equity.

Let's see what Ferebee does. I doubt neighborhood schools will go away for elementary and perhaps middle. But in Indianapolis he eliminated the neighborhood school system for high schools and students apply to the one that matches their interest (technical / vocational, college bound, etc).

The vast majority of DCPS high school students don't' attend their IB school -- and DCPS is already moving this way with the application high schools, the new Bard College high school, and not even bothering with a general program for a redesigned Coolidge.

DC will chew him up and spit him out. I hope he doesn't depend on the Mayor's support.

[Anonymous]

This thread has gone off the rails

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, considering English as a language dropped all of the gendered nouns ingrained in German, Spanish, and other languages, we should all be proud to speak such an advanced, modern creation as our English language.

You won't be a Nazi by any chance?

With just a couple minor edits, Hitler would have been proud of your reasoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, considering English as a language dropped all of the gendered nouns ingrained in German, Spanish, and other languages, we should all be proud to speak such an advanced, modern creation as our English language.

You won't be a Nazi by any chance?

With just a couple minor edits, Hitler would have been proud of your reasoning.

Godwin's Law at work, yet again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, considering English as a language dropped all of the gendered nouns ingrained in German, Spanish, and other languages, we should all be proud to speak such an advanced, modern creation as our English language.

You won't be a Nazi by any chance?

With just a couple minor edits, Hitler would have been proud of your reasoning.

Godwin's Law at work, yet again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Godwin called Bolsonaro a Nazi, so I'm afraid he's even more clueless than you and therefore his "law' is fake marketing ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, considering English as a language dropped all of the gendered nouns ingrained in German, Spanish, and other languages, we should all be proud to speak such an advanced, modern creation as our English language.

You won't be a Nazi by any chance?

With just a couple minor edits, Hitler would have been proud of your reasoning.

Godwin's Law at work, yet again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Godwin called Bolsonaro a Nazi, so I'm afraid he's even more clueless than you and therefore his "law' is fake marketing ...

YOU'RE the one so casually throwing around the "Nazi" label! Just admit defeat, troll!