New Report on Racial and Economic Diversity in DC public and charter schools

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Easy to look up in the DCPS school profile (Wilson):

Black 32%
Hispanic 22%
White 34%
Asian 6%
Mixed race 5%


99% of Hispanics are either fully or partially white in stupid US racial terms, so that's in fact a white majority.


In our school systems and when applying to college, the ones whose records I've seen do not check Caucasian. They check Hispanic.


Yes, and if you had an Italian-American box many "whites" would check that.

So? Would they stop being racially white?



This discussion is deeply stupid. If you guys actually read the report, you would see that purposes of analysis that's of any interest to people actually trying to help kids, Latinx students are a group have totally different results (reflecting the different challenges of the particular cohort attending Wilson) than white kids. If we were talking about Latinx kids at WIS or GDS, of course the results would be different and the distinction may be meaningless because those kids probably share much of the experience of their white classmates. At Wilson, on average, that's not the case and the distinction it completely meaningful in terms of results. But of course, that's discussion of attempts to help kids, not weird race baiting, which is what PPs are all about (rather pathetically).


“Latinx’ LOL.


People variously use Latinx or Latin@ to refer to Latino and Latina in a single word. Kinda showing your ignorance here...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Easy to look up in the DCPS school profile (Wilson):

Black 32%
Hispanic 22%
White 34%
Asian 6%
Mixed race 5%


99% of Hispanics are either fully or partially white in stupid US racial terms, so that's in fact a white majority.


In our school systems and when applying to college, the ones whose records I've seen do not check Caucasian. They check Hispanic.


Yes, and if you had an Italian-American box many "whites" would check that.

So? Would they stop being racially white?



This discussion is deeply stupid. If you guys actually read the report, you would see that purposes of analysis that's of any interest to people actually trying to help kids, Latinx students are a group have totally different results (reflecting the different challenges of the particular cohort attending Wilson) than white kids. If we were talking about Latinx kids at WIS or GDS, of course the results would be different and the distinction may be meaningless because those kids probably share much of the experience of their white classmates. At Wilson, on average, that's not the case and the distinction it completely meaningful in terms of results. But of course, that's discussion of attempts to help kids, not weird race baiting, which is what PPs are all about (rather pathetically).


“Latinx’ LOL.


People variously use Latinx or Latin@ to refer to Latino and Latina in a single word. Kinda showing your ignorance here...


They do, but it's not without controversy. Not the least of which, a non-English speaking Latinx person would have difficulty pronouncing "Latinx." Personally I think it's ok for people to self-identify that way, but I think it's far from settled that it should be universal. I mean, are all Spanish nouns going to end in "x" now? Ultimately I'd prefer "Latinos and Latinas" if you need to be gender inclusive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/09/14/latinx-an-offense-to-the-spanish-language-or-a-nod-to-inclusion/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e45881a82c84

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hernandez-the-case-against-latinx-20171217-story.html

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Easy to look up in the DCPS school profile (Wilson):

Black 32%
Hispanic 22%
White 34%
Asian 6%
Mixed race 5%


99% of Hispanics are either fully or partially white in stupid US racial terms, so that's in fact a white majority.


In our school systems and when applying to college, the ones whose records I've seen do not check Caucasian. They check Hispanic.


Yes, and if you had an Italian-American box many "whites" would check that.

So? Would they stop being racially white?



This discussion is deeply stupid. If you guys actually read the report, you would see that purposes of analysis that's of any interest to people actually trying to help kids, Latinx students are a group have totally different results (reflecting the different challenges of the particular cohort attending Wilson) than white kids. If we were talking about Latinx kids at WIS or GDS, of course the results would be different and the distinction may be meaningless because those kids probably share much of the experience of their white classmates. At Wilson, on average, that's not the case and the distinction it completely meaningful in terms of results. But of course, that's discussion of attempts to help kids, not weird race baiting, which is what PPs are all about (rather pathetically).


“Latinx’ LOL.


People variously use Latinx or Latin@ to refer to Latino and Latina in a single word. Kinda showing your ignorance here...


They do, but it's not without controversy. Not the least of which, a non-English speaking Latinx person would have difficulty pronouncing "Latinx." Personally I think it's ok for people to self-identify that way, but I think it's far from settled that it should be universal. I mean, are all Spanish nouns going to end in "x" now? Ultimately I'd prefer "Latinos and Latinas" if you need to be gender inclusive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/09/14/latinx-an-offense-to-the-spanish-language-or-a-nod-to-inclusion/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e45881a82c84

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hernandez-the-case-against-latinx-20171217-story.html



DP. Maybe so, but it's still nothing to "LOL" at. I also know a few Latinas who use the term (they are academics, if that makes any difference).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Easy to look up in the DCPS school profile (Wilson):

Black 32%
Hispanic 22%
White 34%
Asian 6%
Mixed race 5%


99% of Hispanics are either fully or partially white in stupid US racial terms, so that's in fact a white majority.


In our school systems and when applying to college, the ones whose records I've seen do not check Caucasian. They check Hispanic.


Yes, and if you had an Italian-American box many "whites" would check that.

So? Would they stop being racially white?



This discussion is deeply stupid. If you guys actually read the report, you would see that purposes of analysis that's of any interest to people actually trying to help kids, Latinx students are a group have totally different results (reflecting the different challenges of the particular cohort attending Wilson) than white kids. If we were talking about Latinx kids at WIS or GDS, of course the results would be different and the distinction may be meaningless because those kids probably share much of the experience of their white classmates. At Wilson, on average, that's not the case and the distinction it completely meaningful in terms of results. But of course, that's discussion of attempts to help kids, not weird race baiting, which is what PPs are all about (rather pathetically).


“Latinx’ LOL.


People variously use Latinx or Latin@ to refer to Latino and Latina in a single word. Kinda showing your ignorance here...


They do, but it's not without controversy. Not the least of which, a non-English speaking Latinx person would have difficulty pronouncing "Latinx." Personally I think it's ok for people to self-identify that way, but I think it's far from settled that it should be universal. I mean, are all Spanish nouns going to end in "x" now? Ultimately I'd prefer "Latinos and Latinas" if you need to be gender inclusive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/09/14/latinx-an-offense-to-the-spanish-language-or-a-nod-to-inclusion/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e45881a82c84

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hernandez-the-case-against-latinx-20171217-story.html



Jajaha Latinx jajaha
Anonymous
I get annoyed at DCPS and Wilson administrators for acting like Wilson is such a great school. It is a decent school that looks amazing compared with the other DCPS comprehensive highschools that are mostly completely disfunctional. Wilson is acceptable as a school to send my kids but barely so. It has so much potential with a cohort of committed parents, students and interesting diversity but smug and complacent administrators + central office indifference really holds it back. Don’t get me started on Banneker, Walls and McKinley Tech. They also act like they are MIT and Harvard level when they are really more like Kentucky or Alabama State.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Easy to look up in the DCPS school profile (Wilson):

Black 32%
Hispanic 22%
White 34%
Asian 6%
Mixed race 5%


99% of Hispanics are either fully or partially white in stupid US racial terms, so that's in fact a white majority.


In our school systems and when applying to college, the ones whose records I've seen do not check Caucasian. They check Hispanic.


Yes, and if you had an Italian-American box many "whites" would check that.

So? Would they stop being racially white?



This discussion is deeply stupid. If you guys actually read the report, you would see that purposes of analysis that's of any interest to people actually trying to help kids, Latinx students are a group have totally different results (reflecting the different challenges of the particular cohort attending Wilson) than white kids. If we were talking about Latinx kids at WIS or GDS, of course the results would be different and the distinction may be meaningless because those kids probably share much of the experience of their white classmates. At Wilson, on average, that's not the case and the distinction it completely meaningful in terms of results. But of course, that's discussion of attempts to help kids, not weird race baiting, which is what PPs are all about (rather pathetically).


“Latinx’ LOL.


People variously use Latinx or Latin@ to refer to Latino and Latina in a single word. Kinda showing your ignorance here...


They do, but it's not without controversy. Not the least of which, a non-English speaking Latinx person would have difficulty pronouncing "Latinx." Personally I think it's ok for people to self-identify that way, but I think it's far from settled that it should be universal. I mean, are all Spanish nouns going to end in "x" now? Ultimately I'd prefer "Latinos and Latinas" if you need to be gender inclusive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/09/14/latinx-an-offense-to-the-spanish-language-or-a-nod-to-inclusion/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e45881a82c84

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hernandez-the-case-against-latinx-20171217-story.html

Is this part of the transsexual agenda, to change vocabulary? No thanks!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Easy to look up in the DCPS school profile (Wilson):

Black 32%
Hispanic 22%
White 34%
Asian 6%
Mixed race 5%


99% of Hispanics are either fully or partially white in stupid US racial terms, so that's in fact a white majority.


In our school systems and when applying to college, the ones whose records I've seen do not check Caucasian. They check Hispanic.


Yes, and if you had an Italian-American box many "whites" would check that.

So? Would they stop being racially white?



This discussion is deeply stupid. If you guys actually read the report, you would see that purposes of analysis that's of any interest to people actually trying to help kids, Latinx students are a group have totally different results (reflecting the different challenges of the particular cohort attending Wilson) than white kids. If we were talking about Latinx kids at WIS or GDS, of course the results would be different and the distinction may be meaningless because those kids probably share much of the experience of their white classmates. At Wilson, on average, that's not the case and the distinction it completely meaningful in terms of results. But of course, that's discussion of attempts to help kids, not weird race baiting, which is what PPs are all about (rather pathetically).


“Latinx’ LOL.


People variously use Latinx or Latin@ to refer to Latino and Latina in a single word. Kinda showing your ignorance here...


They do, but it's not without controversy. Not the least of which, a non-English speaking Latinx person would have difficulty pronouncing "Latinx." Personally I think it's ok for people to self-identify that way, but I think it's far from settled that it should be universal. I mean, are all Spanish nouns going to end in "x" now? Ultimately I'd prefer "Latinos and Latinas" if you need to be gender inclusive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/09/14/latinx-an-offense-to-the-spanish-language-or-a-nod-to-inclusion/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e45881a82c84

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hernandez-the-case-against-latinx-20171217-story.html

Is this part of the transsexual agenda, to change vocabulary? No thanks!



Oh honey, bless your heart. Don't worry -- nobody's going to come force you to be gay. Go back to your fox news now and let the people who actually have kids at the school talk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Easy to look up in the DCPS school profile (Wilson):

Black 32%
Hispanic 22%
White 34%
Asian 6%
Mixed race 5%


99% of Hispanics are either fully or partially white in stupid US racial terms, so that's in fact a white majority.


In our school systems and when applying to college, the ones whose records I've seen do not check Caucasian. They check Hispanic.


Yes, and if you had an Italian-American box many "whites" would check that.

So? Would they stop being racially white?



This discussion is deeply stupid. If you guys actually read the report, you would see that purposes of analysis that's of any interest to people actually trying to help kids, Latinx students are a group have totally different results (reflecting the different challenges of the particular cohort attending Wilson) than white kids. If we were talking about Latinx kids at WIS or GDS, of course the results would be different and the distinction may be meaningless because those kids probably share much of the experience of their white classmates. At Wilson, on average, that's not the case and the distinction it completely meaningful in terms of results. But of course, that's discussion of attempts to help kids, not weird race baiting, which is what PPs are all about (rather pathetically).


“Latinx’ LOL.


People variously use Latinx or Latin@ to refer to Latino and Latina in a single word. Kinda showing your ignorance here...


They do, but it's not without controversy. Not the least of which, a non-English speaking Latinx person would have difficulty pronouncing "Latinx." Personally I think it's ok for people to self-identify that way, but I think it's far from settled that it should be universal. I mean, are all Spanish nouns going to end in "x" now? Ultimately I'd prefer "Latinos and Latinas" if you need to be gender inclusive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/09/14/latinx-an-offense-to-the-spanish-language-or-a-nod-to-inclusion/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e45881a82c84

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hernandez-the-case-against-latinx-20171217-story.html



Jajaha Latinx jajaha


In Spanish we write "Ja ja ja" or "je je je." Not "jajaha". Also, "latinx", "latino" and "latina" are not capitalized in Spanish, only in English.

And, yeah, sexism in the Spanish language is important and a much discussed topic just now. In this article (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenguaje_no_sexista) see the sections on "Propuestas hacia un lenguaje no sexista" and "El uso de la arroba, la equis y el asterisco."
Anonymous
I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.
Anonymous
Is there a problem? Really?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.


Latinx is an insult on the Spanish language perpetrated by clueless gringos.
Anonymous
Let's try it on the Germans and see how they like it. Gerxans? Germyn? Germynx?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.


Latinx is an insult on the Spanish language perpetrated by clueless gringos.



Latinx is like Manx.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think latinx is all of these things. Yes I believe it is part of the political correctness gender sensitivity ratcheting up we are experiencing in this country. Yes it is annoying as it goes against grammar norms in English regarding gendering nouns. Yes it’s good because it calls attention to gender issues where people have legitimate grievances and unresolved problems in American society. Yes it is nonsensical in Spanish and completely a construct of English speakers - latin@ is the more natural Spanish construct.

There are plenty of things that are both good and lame as hell. Things you roll your eyes at and encourage people to say. Because we’re trying to be better people.


I grounded one of my kids for saying “they” when referring to the singular. I want my children to respect property grammar. At least “it” would be more grammatically appropriate than “they.”
Anonymous
Typo correction: Proper grammar.
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