do you ask about guns at a family's house before letting your kid go to a playdate there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun owner here. I don’t own own guns primarily to hunt or defend myself, it’s really just a hobby. I shoot at the range, come home and store my guns, and that’s it. Most people would not guess I own a gun. I — and most other gun owners I know— are absolutely in favor of stricter gun laws. Guns should absolutely be regulated and licensed. But whenever guns come up, I find that the left (even people who are seemingly reasonable/tolerant otherwise) starts screaming that GUNS KILL, we will take your guns, ALL GUN OWNERS ARE EVIL, etc. This gets the extreme right riled up and they start screaming that the guns will have to pried from their cold, dead hands, COME AND TAKE THEM, etc.

I’d love to see more moderate folks (including myself) come together and pass some common sense gun laws. Surely even the far left can get behind that? Yet every time I try to discuss, I get called names and get that knee jerk reaction. Let’s be real, my guns aren’t going anywhere. This country is not going to banning all guns and confiscating mine. I do think we need more regulation and don’t understand why I should get demonized for that.

I'm a PP who said much the same things you just did. I agree with you that the far left is doing as much if not more than the far right to hurt this cause.

I am far left, would never keep guns in my home (or anywhere else), but agree that we should have a reasonable and sensible gun debate that brings common-sense measures to protect people. I’d love to be part of a group focused on this.

And I wouldn’t say that my kid can’t play in a house with guns—but I’d want to be able to trust the family enough that they are locking up the guns and locking the ammunition separately. I do get worried reading here that a lot of gun owners lie, or the person who says her boyfriend keeps a gun in the room but knows that the kids won’t go up there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gun owner here. I don’t own own guns primarily to hunt or defend myself, it’s really just a hobby. I shoot at the range, come home and store my guns, and that’s it. Most people would not guess I own a gun. I — and most other gun owners I know— are absolutely in favor of stricter gun laws. Guns should absolutely be regulated and licensed. But whenever guns come up, I find that the left (even people who are seemingly reasonable/tolerant otherwise) starts screaming that GUNS KILL, we will take your guns, ALL GUN OWNERS ARE EVIL, etc. This gets the extreme right riled up and they start screaming that the guns will have to pried from their cold, dead hands, COME AND TAKE THEM, etc.

I’d love to see more moderate folks (including myself) come together and pass some common sense gun laws. Surely even the far left can get behind that? Yet every time I try to discuss, I get called names and get that knee jerk reaction. Let’s be real, my guns aren’t going anywhere. This country is not going to banning all guns and confiscating mine. I do think we need more regulation and don’t understand why I should get demonized for that.

Your viewpoint is exactly like mine. I’m a very conservative LEO wife (with a LE career path of my own) and we own several guns—including an AR-15 (the horror!!!!!) that DH uses for work or at the range. It is very hard to have a calm and rational discussion with people who just immediately jump to one conclusion and cling to it. Yes—i firmly believe in protecting everyone’s 2nd amendment rights. But that doesn’t make me a gun but. Too many people assume it’s one extreme or the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not trust people who kill things for fun. There is something missing in their soul. I think people who are so afraid of the world that they make themselves less safe by having a gun in their home are dangerous plain and simple. It is not even remotely rational.

What about option #3 - people who don’t hunt or have guns for self defense, but just enjoy the sport of target shooting?

How do you enjoy your "hobby" when you know that your ability to do that costs countless innocent children and women and men their lives every single day in this country? 1,300 children a year. A woman in the U.S. is fatally shot by her current or former intimate partner every 16 hours. But I'm glad you enjoy your hobby. Let me know when you find your soul?

I own a gun solely for sport. I do not hunt, and I do not anticipate ever using it for personal protection. I would gladly give up my gun if it saved lives. In fact, I would give up my gun if it saved even a single life. I would also have been willing to jump through A LOT more hoops than I did in order to purchase it. But me throwing my gun away doesn't accomplish anything. So just stop with this. You are making enemies out of people who would otherwise be your allies. No one I know who owns a gun (all upper middle class people, in case you're wondering what crowds I run with) says they do so because of the second amendment. None of them think they need to protect themselves from the government. And none of them would do or have done anything but support stricter gun safety laws. Those of you who are demonizing all gun owners are doing more harm to the progress of gun safety in this country than you are good. Just take a second to realize that, and stop being so polarizing. It's ugly.

If you threw away your gun your family would be appreciably safer actually but you are not willing to do that. It is disgusting that we are the only developed country that is ok with our children being killed in school. Nevermind the thousands of black children on the streets who lose their life to gun violence. That our children should be safe in the richest country in the world shouldn't be polarizing. The reason that people on the other side of this feel strongly is that the answer is so simple but people like you just keep putting up strawmen because you don't really want to modify your lifestyle and yet you don't want to accept that your behavior contributes to the deaths of thousands. 7 people died from tainted Tylenol in the 80s and now every single bottle has a sealed cap. 20 little, little kids were shot in their school and we as a nation won't do a single thing. If you are still owning a gun and going to a range you are likely contributing to the NRA. I'm sorry if standing out for our children and advocating for a society in which people can go to school and concerts and the mall and not have to worry about being shot to death makes me your enemy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun owner here. I don’t own own guns primarily to hunt or defend myself, it’s really just a hobby. I shoot at the range, come home and store my guns, and that’s it. Most people would not guess I own a gun. I — and most other gun owners I know— are absolutely in favor of stricter gun laws. Guns should absolutely be regulated and licensed. But whenever guns come up, I find that the left (even people who are seemingly reasonable/tolerant otherwise) starts screaming that GUNS KILL, we will take your guns, ALL GUN OWNERS ARE EVIL, etc. This gets the extreme right riled up and they start screaming that the guns will have to pried from their cold, dead hands, COME AND TAKE THEM, etc.

I’d love to see more moderate folks (including myself) come together and pass some common sense gun laws. Surely even the far left can get behind that? Yet every time I try to discuss, I get called names and get that knee jerk reaction. Let’s be real, my guns aren’t going anywhere. This country is not going to banning all guns and confiscating mine. I do think we need more regulation and don’t understand why I should get demonized for that.

Your viewpoint is exactly like mine. I’m a very conservative LEO wife (with a LE career path of my own) and we own several guns—including an AR-15 (the horror!!!!!) that DH uses for work or at the range. It is very hard to have a calm and rational discussion with people who just immediately jump to one conclusion and cling to it. Yes—i firmly believe in protecting everyone’s 2nd amendment rights. But that doesn’t make me a gun but. Too many people assume it’s one extreme or the other.

Reality check: you are a gun nut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun owner here. I don’t own own guns primarily to hunt or defend myself, it’s really just a hobby. I shoot at the range, come home and store my guns, and that’s it. Most people would not guess I own a gun. I — and most other gun owners I know— are absolutely in favor of stricter gun laws. Guns should absolutely be regulated and licensed. But whenever guns come up, I find that the left (even people who are seemingly reasonable/tolerant otherwise) starts screaming that GUNS KILL, we will take your guns, ALL GUN OWNERS ARE EVIL, etc. This gets the extreme right riled up and they start screaming that the guns will have to pried from their cold, dead hands, COME AND TAKE THEM, etc.

I’d love to see more moderate folks (including myself) come together and pass some common sense gun laws. Surely even the far left can get behind that? Yet every time I try to discuss, I get called names and get that knee jerk reaction. Let’s be real, my guns aren’t going anywhere. This country is not going to banning all guns and confiscating mine. I do think we need more regulation and don’t understand why I should get demonized for that.

Your viewpoint is exactly like mine. I’m a very conservative LEO wife (with a LE career path of my own) and we own several guns—including an AR-15 (the horror!!!!!) that DH uses for work or at the range. It is very hard to have a calm and rational discussion with people who just immediately jump to one conclusion and cling to it. Yes—i firmly believe in protecting everyone’s 2nd amendment rights. But that doesn’t make me a gun but. Too many people assume it’s one extreme or the other.

Reality check: you are a gun nut.

This is why we can’t get any gun control legislation passed. I hope you take responsibility for your part in the deaths of victims of mass shootings, just as you blame all gun owners.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, if you own an assault rifle, you are a gun nut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, if you own an assault rifle, you are a gun nut.

this. if you want a handgun to help protect your house against a burglar, sure I guess ... not my cup of tea, but go ahead.

but an AR-15? come on now. no one needs that. if you like target practice, go use one at a shooting range, but no one needs one in their house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun owner here. I don’t own own guns primarily to hunt or defend myself, it’s really just a hobby. I shoot at the range, come home and store my guns, and that’s it. Most people would not guess I own a gun. I — and most other gun owners I know— are absolutely in favor of stricter gun laws. Guns should absolutely be regulated and licensed. But whenever guns come up, I find that the left (even people who are seemingly reasonable/tolerant otherwise) starts screaming that GUNS KILL, we will take your guns, ALL GUN OWNERS ARE EVIL, etc. This gets the extreme right riled up and they start screaming that the guns will have to pried from their cold, dead hands, COME AND TAKE THEM, etc.

I’d love to see more moderate folks (including myself) come together and pass some common sense gun laws. Surely even the far left can get behind that? Yet every time I try to discuss, I get called names and get that knee jerk reaction. Let’s be real, my guns aren’t going anywhere. This country is not going to banning all guns and confiscating mine. I do think we need more regulation and don’t understand why I should get demonized for that.

Your viewpoint is exactly like mine. I’m a very conservative LEO wife (with a LE career path of my own) and we own several guns—including an AR-15 (the horror!!!!!) that DH uses for work or at the range. It is very hard to have a calm and rational discussion with people who just immediately jump to one conclusion and cling to it. Yes—i firmly believe in protecting everyone’s 2nd amendment rights. But that doesn’t make me a gun but. Too many people assume it’s one extreme or the other.

Reality check: you are a gun nut.

This is why we can’t get any gun control legislation passed. I hope you take responsibility for your part in the deaths of victims of mass shootings, just as you blame all gun owners.

What responsibility would that be? Their blood isn't on my hands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, if you own an assault rifle, you are a gun nut.

What do you think an assault rifle is? I’m asking because most gun owners I know don’t own any assault rifles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun owner here. I don’t own own guns primarily to hunt or defend myself, it’s really just a hobby. I shoot at the range, come home and store my guns, and that’s it. Most people would not guess I own a gun. I — and most other gun owners I know— are absolutely in favor of stricter gun laws. Guns should absolutely be regulated and licensed. But whenever guns come up, I find that the left (even people who are seemingly reasonable/tolerant otherwise) starts screaming that GUNS KILL, we will take your guns, ALL GUN OWNERS ARE EVIL, etc. This gets the extreme right riled up and they start screaming that the guns will have to pried from their cold, dead hands, COME AND TAKE THEM, etc.

I’d love to see more moderate folks (including myself) come together and pass some common sense gun laws. Surely even the far left can get behind that? Yet every time I try to discuss, I get called names and get that knee jerk reaction. Let’s be real, my guns aren’t going anywhere. This country is not going to banning all guns and confiscating mine. I do think we need more regulation and don’t understand why I should get demonized for that.

Your viewpoint is exactly like mine. I’m a very conservative LEO wife (with a LE career path of my own) and we own several guns—including an AR-15 (the horror!!!!!) that DH uses for work or at the range. It is very hard to have a calm and rational discussion with people who just immediately jump to one conclusion and cling to it. Yes—i firmly believe in protecting everyone’s 2nd amendment rights. But that doesn’t make me a gun but. Too many people assume it’s one extreme or the other.

Reality check: you are a gun nut.

This is why we can’t get any gun control legislation passed. I hope you take responsibility for your part in the deaths of victims of mass shootings, just as you blame all gun owners.

What responsibility would that be? Their blood isn't on my hands.

Why does being a gun owner automatically mean blood is on your hands?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not trust people who kill things for fun. There is something missing in their soul. I think people who are so afraid of the world that they make themselves less safe by having a gun in their home are dangerous plain and simple. It is not even remotely rational.

What about option #3 - people who don’t hunt or have guns for self defense, but just enjoy the sport of target shooting?

How do you enjoy your "hobby" when you know that your ability to do that costs countless innocent children and women and men their lives every single day in this country? 1,300 children a year. A woman in the U.S. is fatally shot by her current or former intimate partner every 16 hours. But I'm glad you enjoy your hobby. Let me know when you find your soul?

I own a gun solely for sport. I do not hunt, and I do not anticipate ever using it for personal protection. I would gladly give up my gun if it saved lives. In fact, I would give up my gun if it saved even a single life. I would also have been willing to jump through A LOT more hoops than I did in order to purchase it. But me throwing my gun away doesn't accomplish anything. So just stop with this. You are making enemies out of people who would otherwise be your allies. No one I know who owns a gun (all upper middle class people, in case you're wondering what crowds I run with) says they do so because of the second amendment. None of them think they need to protect themselves from the government. And none of them would do or have done anything but support stricter gun safety laws. Those of you who are demonizing all gun owners are doing more harm to the progress of gun safety in this country than you are good. Just take a second to realize that, and stop being so polarizing. It's ugly.

If you threw away your gun your family would be appreciably safer actually but you are not willing to do that. It is disgusting that we are the only developed country that is ok with our children being killed in school. Nevermind the thousands of black children on the streets who lose their life to gun violence. That our children should be safe in the richest country in the world shouldn't be polarizing. The reason that people on the other side of this feel strongly is that the answer is so simple but people like you just keep putting up strawmen because you don't really want to modify your lifestyle and yet you don't want to accept that your behavior contributes to the deaths of thousands. 7 people died from tainted Tylenol in the 80s and now every single bottle has a sealed cap. 20 little, little kids were shot in their school and we as a nation won't do a single thing. If you are still owning a gun and going to a range you are likely contributing to the NRA. I'm sorry if standing out for our children and advocating for a society in which people can go to school and concerts and the mall and not have to worry about being shot to death makes me your enemy.

You're an idiot. I don't contribute to the NRA. I never have and I never will. I don't argue that my second amendment right is important. You are ridiculously judgmental and stupid and YOU are the problem, but you're too dumb to see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not trust people who kill things for fun. There is something missing in their soul. I think people who are so afraid of the world that they make themselves less safe by having a gun in their home are dangerous plain and simple. It is not even remotely rational.

What about option #3 - people who don’t hunt or have guns for self defense, but just enjoy the sport of target shooting?

How do you enjoy your "hobby" when you know that your ability to do that costs countless innocent children and women and men their lives every single day in this country? 1,300 children a year. A woman in the U.S. is fatally shot by her current or former intimate partner every 16 hours. But I'm glad you enjoy your hobby. Let me know when you find your soul?

I own a gun solely for sport. I do not hunt, and I do not anticipate ever using it for personal protection. I would gladly give up my gun if it saved lives. In fact, I would give up my gun if it saved even a single life. I would also have been willing to jump through A LOT more hoops than I did in order to purchase it. But me throwing my gun away doesn't accomplish anything. So just stop with this. You are making enemies out of people who would otherwise be your allies. No one I know who owns a gun (all upper middle class people, in case you're wondering what crowds I run with) says they do so because of the second amendment. None of them think they need to protect themselves from the government. And none of them would do or have done anything but support stricter gun safety laws. Those of you who are demonizing all gun owners are doing more harm to the progress of gun safety in this country than you are good. Just take a second to realize that, and stop being so polarizing. It's ugly.

+1.

Yes to all of that. We own guns for sport. And to the judgmental anti-gun PP (I hope it’s only one?), I’m not a Republican nor did I vote for Trump. I’m also a woman and a POC. DH and I have advanced degrees. I practice yoga. I’m socially liberal. AND I’m for increased gun control. Shocked?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, if you own an assault rifle, you are a gun nut.

What do you think an assault rifle is? I’m asking because most gun owners I know don’t own any assault rifles.

You do know some?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun owner here. I don’t own own guns primarily to hunt or defend myself, it’s really just a hobby. I shoot at the range, come home and store my guns, and that’s it. Most people would not guess I own a gun. I — and most other gun owners I know— are absolutely in favor of stricter gun laws. Guns should absolutely be regulated and licensed. But whenever guns come up, I find that the left (even people who are seemingly reasonable/tolerant otherwise) starts screaming that GUNS KILL, we will take your guns, ALL GUN OWNERS ARE EVIL, etc. This gets the extreme right riled up and they start screaming that the guns will have to pried from their cold, dead hands, COME AND TAKE THEM, etc.

I’d love to see more moderate folks (including myself) come together and pass some common sense gun laws. Surely even the far left can get behind that? Yet every time I try to discuss, I get called names and get that knee jerk reaction. Let’s be real, my guns aren’t going anywhere. This country is not going to banning all guns and confiscating mine. I do think we need more regulation and don’t understand why I should get demonized for that.

Your viewpoint is exactly like mine. I’m a very conservative LEO wife (with a LE career path of my own) and we own several guns—including an AR-15 (the horror!!!!!) that DH uses for work or at the range. It is very hard to have a calm and rational discussion with people who just immediately jump to one conclusion and cling to it. Yes—i firmly believe in protecting everyone’s 2nd amendment rights. But that doesn’t make me a gun but. Too many people assume it’s one extreme or the other.

Reality check: you are a gun nut.

This is why we can’t get any gun control legislation passed. I hope you take responsibility for your part in the deaths of victims of mass shootings, just as you blame all gun owners.

Why exactly do you own an AR-15? And “several guns”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gun owner here. I don’t own own guns primarily to hunt or defend myself, it’s really just a hobby. I shoot at the range, come home and store my guns, and that’s it. Most people would not guess I own a gun. I — and most other gun owners I know— are absolutely in favor of stricter gun laws. Guns should absolutely be regulated and licensed. But whenever guns come up, I find that the left (even people who are seemingly reasonable/tolerant otherwise) starts screaming that GUNS KILL, we will take your guns, ALL GUN OWNERS ARE EVIL, etc. This gets the extreme right riled up and they start screaming that the guns will have to pried from their cold, dead hands, COME AND TAKE THEM, etc.

I’d love to see more moderate folks (including myself) come together and pass some common sense gun laws. Surely even the far left can get behind that? Yet every time I try to discuss, I get called names and get that knee jerk reaction. Let’s be real, my guns aren’t going anywhere. This country is not going to banning all guns and confiscating mine. I do think we need more regulation and don’t understand why I should get demonized for that.

Your viewpoint is exactly like mine. I’m a very conservative LEO wife (with a LE career path of my own) and we own several guns—including an AR-15 (the horror!!!!!) that DH uses for work or at the range. It is very hard to have a calm and rational discussion with people who just immediately jump to one conclusion and cling to it. Yes—i firmly believe in protecting everyone’s 2nd amendment rights. But that doesn’t make me a gun but. Too many people assume it’s one extreme or the other.

Reality check: you are a gun nut.

This is why we can’t get any gun control legislation passed. I hope you take responsibility for your part in the deaths of victims of mass shootings, just as you blame all gun owners.

Why exactly do you own an AR-15? And “several guns”?

His handgun, my handgun, and the AR for target practice/his work. In my county we had an active shooter situation where the shooter was targeting random people/cars in a Walmart parking lot. He was taken out by a policeman with an AR-15. You’re welcome.