Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cold Spring High Gifted Center (HGC), the best HGC center in the county, the kids with highest scores of verbal, non-verbal reasoning and quantitative sections for the admission test 2 year ago, has 0 kid get accepted this year. These kids with MAP-M over 260, 270 in forth grade, 290 in fifth grade, MAP-R over 240 in forth grade, 250 in fifth grade, Lexile reading score almost college-level, principle or assistant principle player in MCYO orchestras (pre or chamber), national athletic awards winner (swimming, badminton, figure skating, chess), math Kangaroo state and national winners, AoPs top points winners in Algebra I. I have no any comments. But, please don't use the so-called "getting TPMS or EMS tends to be more competitive than getting into HGC program" to make your point. Getting into Cold Spring HGC is much more competitive than any other HGC program.

Although it is very disappointing, I think it is good to go away from such disaster selection process.

Serious question: how do you know no-one was admitted? Are you an administrator or teacher?

Typically the HGC teacher can give a quick answer. Information from the DD is reliable as the HGC teacher will announce it to the class. This group of kids who have been screened into the HGC program will need to be adequately addressed as the system just failed them.

No teacher is ever going to make such an announcement. Ever.

~HGC teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cold Spring High Gifted Center (HGC), the best HGC center in the county, the kids with highest scores of verbal, non-verbal reasoning and quantitative sections for the admission test 2 year ago, has 0 kid get accepted this year. These kids with MAP-M over 260, 270 in forth grade, 290 in fifth grade, MAP-R over 240 in forth grade, 250 in fifth grade, Lexile reading score almost college-level, principle or assistant principle player in MCYO orchestras (pre or chamber), national athletic awards winner (swimming, badminton, figure skating, chess), math Kangaroo state and national winners, AoPs top points winners in Algebra I. I have no any comments. But, please don't use the so-called "getting TPMS or EMS tends to be more competitive than getting into HGC program" to make your point. Getting into Cold Spring HGC is much more competitive than any other HGC program.

Although it is very disappointing, I think it is good to go away from such disaster selection process.

Think about it - this makes sense. They looked at home school cohort - conceivably those kids will have many kids just like them at the home school and will be taught accordingly. What blows is that that curriculum is completely different, so they are missing out on the curriculum offered by Eastern/TPMS. However, they will be excel at their home school where they can push [b]each [/b]other to do better.

My child is just applying for a CES, but I have friends whose children went through a HGC when it was still called 'HGC', and, according to them, their kids studied vocabulary in 4th grade LA class using 6-grade level vocab textbooks. Now, if those children don't get into a magnet, they'd have to return to their home middle school and in their LA class they will have to face the same standard on-level curriculum they went through two years ago. Well, maybe, not exactly the same, but you get my drift. Pushing each other to do better might be a moot point, since there won't be too much 'pushing' needed.

[Anonymous]

Right, for us it was less an interest in a cohort and more the unique curriculum opportunities. Telling me there's a cohort for my child at her home school isn't what we were after.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cold Spring High Gifted Center (HGC), the best HGC center in the county, the kids with highest scores of verbal, non-verbal reasoning and quantitative sections for the admission test 2 year ago, has 0 kid get accepted this year. These kids with MAP-M over 260, 270 in forth grade, 290 in fifth grade, MAP-R over 240 in forth grade, 250 in fifth grade, Lexile reading score almost college-level, principle or assistant principle player in MCYO orchestras (pre or chamber), national athletic awards winner (swimming, badminton, figure skating, chess), math Kangaroo state and national winners, AoPs top points winners in Algebra I. I have no any comments. But, please don't use the so-called "getting TPMS or EMS tends to be more competitive than getting into HGC program" to make your point. Getting into Cold Spring HGC is much more competitive than any other HGC program.

Although it is very disappointing, I think it is good to go away from such disaster selection process.

There are national badminton awards for 5th graders??

You'd be surprised. FWIW, that 17-year-old kid who just won the skateboarding Olympic competition first competed on the national level at 10. I don't know how it's even legit, but that's what the Post said. Sorry for the off-topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cold Spring High Gifted Center (HGC), the best HGC center in the county, the kids with highest scores of verbal, non-verbal reasoning and quantitative sections for the admission test 2 year ago, has 0 kid get accepted this year. These kids with MAP-M over 260, 270 in forth grade, 290 in fifth grade, MAP-R over 240 in forth grade, 250 in fifth grade, Lexile reading score almost college-level, principle or assistant principle player in MCYO orchestras (pre or chamber), national athletic awards winner (swimming, badminton, figure skating, chess), math Kangaroo state and national winners, AoPs top points winners in Algebra I. I have no any comments. But, please don't use the so-called "getting TPMS or EMS tends to be more competitive than getting into HGC program" to make your point. Getting into Cold Spring HGC is much more competitive than any other HGC program.

Although it is very disappointing, I think it is good to go away from such disaster selection process.

Serious question: how do you know no-one was admitted? Are you an administrator or teacher?

Typically the HGC teacher can give a quick answer. Information from the DD is reliable as the HGC teacher will announce it to the class. This group of kids who have been screened into the HGC program will need to be adequately addressed as the system just failed them.

No teacher is ever going to make such an announcement. Ever.

~HGC teacher

In fact, the kids at our HGC were told by their teachers that they shouldn't brag about it if they got in, and that if they were comfortable they could tell each other if someone else asked, but that otherwise it wasn't anyone's business. They were also prepped that not everyone would get in, and that they'd all be fine either way. Not sure if there was actual angst going around the class, or if she was just drawing on past experiences to head off problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

My child is just applying for a CES, but I have friends whose children went through a HGC when it was still called 'HGC', and, according to them, their kids studied vocabulary in 4th grade LA class using 6-grade level vocab textbooks. Now, if those children don't get into a magnet, they'd have to return to their home middle school and in their LA class they will have to face the same standard on-level curriculum they went through two years ago. Well, maybe, not exactly the same, but you get my drift. Pushing each other to do better might be a moot point, since there won't be too much 'pushing' needed.

This is what happened to my kid, and to all of the other kids who didn't get into the middle school magnet in her HGC class. Was it all for the best in the best of all possible worlds? No. Was it a catastrophe? No. Did she languish? No.

[Anonymous]

0 kids from Cold Spring HGC got in? If this is true then this means that MCPS is dismantling the Magnet programs. Let mediocrity rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:0 kids from Cold Spring HGC got in? If this is true then this means that MCPS is dismantling the Magnet programs. Let mediocrity rule.

Why would you think this was true?

[Anonymous]

FWIW - my older child went HGC then did not test-in to magnet MS so went to local MS. Obviously disappointed but became very motivated, excelled and wound up being accepted to all 4 HS magnets applied for. Doing great in 3rd year of magnet HS program. Most of his neighborhood friends are doing fine in local school. As parents we can all understand the concerns with the admissions process issues, but which HS dc attends will not determine the future for most students.

[Anonymous]

While all the politics about the admission process are interesting, I’m still wondering when we’ll get our results. At what point should I be concerned and contact MCPS. I can’t tell from the postings today whether people are receiving letter today - we did not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While all the politics about the admission process are interesting, I’m still wondering when we’ll get our results. At what point should I be concerned and contact MCPS. I can’t tell from the postings today whether people are receiving letter today - we did not.

The MCPS site now says "Notification letters were mailed on or before February 13, 2018. Please allow at least 5 days for mail to reach homes."

Guess they won't tell you anything unless you haven't gotten a letter by Tuesday (Monday being a holiday). Unless they mean five mail days.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

Typically the HGC teacher can give a quick answer. Information from the DD is reliable as the HGC teacher will announce it to the class. This group of kids who have been screened into the HGC program will need to be adequately addressed as the system just failed them.[/quote]

Wait, what? You're telling us that your kid at the Cold Spring CES told you that the CES teacher told the class that nobody at the Cold Spring CES was admitted to TPMS or Eastern?[/quote]


This really doesn't make sense. If rejection letters were just received yesterday, and school is still in session, how could PP possibly know this?? Maybe some chatter among moms upset their high-scoring kids who've shown they can achieve in the Cold Spring CES didn't get in, but no one short of the principal or possibly teachers would have this information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cold Spring High Gifted Center (HGC), the best HGC center in the county, the kids with highest scores of verbal, non-verbal reasoning and quantitative sections for the admission test 2 year ago, has 0 kid get accepted this year. These kids with MAP-M over 260, 270 in forth grade, 290 in fifth grade, MAP-R over 240 in forth grade, 250 in fifth grade, Lexile reading score almost college-level, principle or assistant principle player in MCYO orchestras (pre or chamber), national athletic awards winner (swimming, badminton, figure skating, chess), math Kangaroo state and national winners, AoPs top points winners in Algebra I. I have no any comments. But, please don't use the so-called "getting TPMS or EMS tends to be more competitive than getting into HGC program" to make your point. Getting into Cold Spring HGC is much more competitive than any other HGC program.

Although it is very disappointing, I think it is good to go away from such disaster selection process.

Serious question: how do you know no-one was admitted? Are you an administrator or teacher?

Typically the HGC teacher can give a quick answer. Information from the DD is reliable as the HGC teacher will announce it to the class. This group of kids who have been screened into the HGC program will need to be adequately addressed as the system just failed them.

No teacher is ever going to make such an announcement. Ever.

~HGC teacher

Is it HGC or CES teacher?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

Typically the HGC teacher can give a quick answer. Information from the DD is reliable as the HGC teacher will announce it to the class. This group of kids who have been screened into the HGC program will need to be adequately addressed as the system just failed them.[/quote]

Wait, what? You're telling us that your kid at the Cold Spring CES told you that the CES teacher told the class that nobody at the Cold Spring CES was admitted to TPMS or Eastern?[/quote]


This really doesn't make sense. If rejection letters were just received yesterday, and school is still in session, how could PP possibly know this?? Maybe some chatter among moms upset their high-scoring kids who've shown they can achieve in the Cold Spring CES didn't get in, but no one short of the principal or possibly teachers would have this information.[/quote]


Furthermore, it sounds like most are still waiting for acceptances.

[Anonymous]

I can't imagine 0 kids from Cold Spring were admitted. My DC did not get in. I thought DC was doing great breaking into the 160s in MAP-M, but DC said a number of classmates were scoring in the 180s! IF this is true (which I doubt), the only argument that makes some sense is that these kids all have some of the best middle schools in the county in Bethesda and Potomac, and will have each other as peers. I believe all of these schools, unlike the ESs, offer enriched instruction. However, it seems more likely that there are Cold Spring parents fearing the worst but who haven't heard yet.