2017 AAP Admission Thread

[Anonymous]

It seriously seems like they just pull names out of a hat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ah that makes sense...he is 2nd grade. He was 8 and 4 months (so pretty much middle of the pack). I see what you mean regarding age and difference. I think you could be right. Thank you

The 2nd graders take this test in October. If your child was 8y 4m back in October, he would have been one of the oldest in the class, if not the oldest. Your child was already 8 when he started 2nd grade. He should technically have been in 3rd grade and not 2nd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ah that makes sense...he is 2nd grade. He was 8 and 4 months (so pretty much middle of the pack). I see what you mean regarding age and difference. I think you could be right. Thank you

The 2nd graders take this test in October. If your child was 8y 4m back in October, he would have been one of the oldest in the class, if not the oldest. Your child was already 8 when he started 2nd grade. He should technically have been in 3rd grade and not 2nd.

Actually as we are not in DC it's a bit different. They took the test in March so he was roughly in the middle, maybe slightly older than some but not a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ah that makes sense...he is 2nd grade. He was 8 and 4 months (so pretty much middle of the pack). I see what you mean regarding age and difference. I think you could be right. Thank you

If your child was 8 years and 4 mos. when he took the test, your kid was in fact a full year older than my kid who took the cogat in the fall of 2nd grad. I'm going to guess that your child was held back/red-shirted. My kid turned 7 on July 31st before going to 2nd grade. So, when he took the CogAt in Oct, he was only 7 yrs and 2.5 mos. old. If your child was a full year (and then some) older, your kid would be expected to get more right.

8 yrs. and 4 mos. is not "middle of the pack" for Oct. of 2nd grade... most kids are turning 8 IN second grade. In my kid's case (and other summer bdays), they turn 8 AFTER 2nd grade is over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ah that makes sense...he is 2nd grade. He was 8 and 4 months (so pretty much middle of the pack). I see what you mean regarding age and difference. I think you could be right. Thank you

If your child was 8 years and 4 mos. when he took the test, your kid was in fact a full year older than my kid who took the cogat in the fall of 2nd grad. I'm going to guess that your child was held back/red-shirted. My kid turned 7 on July 31st before going to 2nd grade. So, when he took the CogAt in Oct, he was only 7 yrs and 2.5 mos. old. If your child was a full year (and then some) older, your kid would be expected to get more right.

8 yrs. and 4 mos. is not "middle of the pack" for Oct. of 2nd grade... most kids are turning 8 IN second grade. In my kid's case (and other summer bdays), they turn 8 AFTER 2nd grade is over.

My apologies... I just saw that your child took the test in March... so, your child was a bit older, but not a lot, and still in the normal range. But, they have to create the range and the extra points for kids like mine who are still not yet 8 when taking the test in Mar. and still do well on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ah that makes sense...he is 2nd grade. He was 8 and 4 months (so pretty much middle of the pack). I see what you mean regarding age and difference. I think you could be right. Thank you

If your child was 8 years and 4 mos. when he took the test, your kid was in fact a full year older than my kid who took the cogat in the fall of 2nd grad. I'm going to guess that your child was held back/red-shirted. My kid turned 7 on July 31st before going to 2nd grade. So, when he took the CogAt in Oct, he was only 7 yrs and 2.5 mos. old. If your child was a full year (and then some) older, your kid would be expected to get more right.

8 yrs. and 4 mos. is not "middle of the pack" for Oct. of 2nd grade... most kids are turning 8 IN second grade. In my kid's case (and other summer bdays), they turn 8 AFTER 2nd grade is over.

My apologies... I just saw that your child took the test in March... so, your child was a bit older, but not a lot, and still in the normal range. But, they have to create the range and the extra points for kids like mine who are still not yet 8 when taking the test in Mar. and still do well on it.

Yes my son was definitely not held back. He is working 3-4 grades ahead in all areas. We couldn't start him earlier because he has social delays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow never knew GBRS weighs more than NNAT and Cogat. My son did not get in due to low GBRS. Time is not utilized properly in those 8 hrs of school. My son is bright but due to poor class curriculum my son is distracted and not IMPRESSING the teacher. Had to use the term "IMPRESS". I give third grade maths work to my son at home and he does it good. Need to wait till next year and have to keep my son motivated, which is so tough. Sorry to say that education here in general school is not challenging.

So for admitting to fourth grade AAP, DS is going to get GBRS again in third grade?

There is no way a child doesn't get in from a low GBRS alone. A low GBRS and another lowish test, yes. Generally, they want two pieces of data pointing towards admission (out of NNAT, Cogat and GBRS) but a low NNAT matters the least to them, a high GBRS will help your kid a lot and a high wisc will trump everything. I guarantee, however, your son didn't have 140 test results on both the NNAT and Cogat and a low GBRS and didn't get admitted. Didn't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow never knew GBRS weighs more than NNAT and Cogat. My son did not get in due to low GBRS. Time is not utilized properly in those 8 hrs of school. My son is bright but due to poor class curriculum my son is distracted and not IMPRESSING the teacher. Had to use the term "IMPRESS". I give third grade maths work to my son at home and he does it good. Need to wait till next year and have to keep my son motivated, which is so tough. Sorry to say that education here in general school is not challenging.

So for admitting to fourth grade AAP, DS is going to get GBRS again in third grade?

There is no way a child doesn't get in from a low GBRS alone. A low GBRS and another lowish test, yes. Generally, they want two pieces of data pointing towards admission (out of NNAT, Cogat and GBRS) but a low NNAT matters the least to them, a high GBRS will help your kid a lot and a high wisc will trump everything. I guarantee, however, your son didn't have 140 test results on both the NNAT and Cogat and a low GBRS and didn't get admitted. Didn't happen.

Some of you speak very authoritatively about the selection process..." there is no way a child doesn't get in from a low GBRS alone." or " NNAT matters least to them" or " a high wisc will trump everything". Is there some resource that a lot of us seem to be missing?

[Anonymous]

there seem to be many instances of low test scores (CogAT and NNAT) combined with a high GBRS that were found eligible.

[Anonymous]

Re: rhyme and reason, I am also taking the scores / admissions posted here with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow never knew GBRS weighs more than NNAT and Cogat. My son did not get in due to low GBRS. Time is not utilized properly in those 8 hrs of school. My son is bright but due to poor class curriculum my son is distracted and not IMPRESSING the teacher. Had to use the term "IMPRESS". I give third grade maths work to my son at home and he does it good. Need to wait till next year and have to keep my son motivated, which is so tough. Sorry to say that education here in general school is not challenging.

So for admitting to fourth grade AAP, DS is going to get GBRS again in third grade?

There is no way a child doesn't get in from a low GBRS alone. A low GBRS and another lowish test, yes. Generally, they want two pieces of data pointing towards admission (out of NNAT, Cogat and GBRS) but a low NNAT matters the least to them, a high GBRS will help your kid a lot and a high wisc will trump everything. I guarantee, however, your son didn't have 140 test results on both the NNAT and Cogat and a low GBRS and didn't get admitted. Didn't happen.

But people have posted kids with two over-132 scores who did not get in What else could it be besides low GBRS?

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know:
-what % of students are in-pool or her a parent recommendation?
-what % of those are accepted?

How selective is this program?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know:
-what % of students are in-pool or get a parent recommendation?
-what % of those are accepted?

How selective is this program?

Fixed a typo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know:
-what % of students are in-pool or her a parent recommendation?
-what % of those are accepted?

How selective is this program?

I believe that AAP represents around 15% of the total student population so it is not that selective. I don't know the breakout between in pool or parent refer but it does seem that your child should have borderline test scores to be admitted with parent referral.

At our base school, I know it was about 50-50. Half the kids who went to the center were in pool and half were parent referred. I don't know how many in pool kids and parent referred kids were not admitted. I just know it seems pretty even of kids who go to the center. Hope that makes sense.

Depending on where you live, a smaller or larger percentage of our school will be AAP bound. We live in Fairfax Alexandria and about 20 kids leave for the center each year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know:
-what % of students are in-pool or her a parent recommendation?
-what % of those are accepted?

How selective is this program?

I believe that AAP represents around 15% of the total student population so it is not that selective. I don't know the breakout between in pool or parent refer but it does seem that your child should have borderline test scores to be admitted with parent referral.

At our base school, I know it was about 50-50. Half the kids who went to the center were in pool and half were parent referred. I don't know how many in pool kids and parent referred kids were not admitted. I just know it seems pretty even of kids who go to the center. Hope that makes sense.

Depending on where you live, a smaller or larger percentage of our school will be AAP bound. We live in Fairfax Alexandria and about 20 kids leave for the center each year.

How could you possibly know this?