2017 AAP Admission Thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi

We got our son WISC results.

FSIQ- 139

VCI - 133
VSI - 126
FRI - 144
WMI - 112
PSI - 126
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FSIQ - 139
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Last year COGAT - 134.
This year COGAT - 119.
GBRS - 6

He got less in COGAT this year because we have moved to new county and he is depressed that he lost all his friends.

So, we are planning to submit with new WISC V results and last year COGAT results.

Will he be in AAP ? Any idea ?

Why was he rejected last year?

His (3RD GRADE) COGAT score was 119. and GBRS was 6. But now, I am planning to submit with new WISC score (FSIQ 139) , 2nd grade LOudoun county COGAT results - 134. and certificates and recommendation letters. Also, I am planning to write a letter on my son that his COGAT exam was conducted exactly the same month which we moved to the fairfax county from loudoun county. The transition time to adjust was so long and he could not do well for the COGAT exam that was conducted in fairfax. Not sure , If he will be in

[Anonymous]

GBRS 6 is very low. What did the teacher say?

[Anonymous]

He should be admitted with a FSIQ of a 139. That should trump all other scores including the 6 gbrs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GBRS 6 is very low. What did the teacher say?

Teacher said that she is very shy in class . We totally understand because she is new to school and takes time to adjust. But she also said that she does well and was able to work on the new concepts very easily even though she went for vacation. But still, I do not understand how she gave the GBRS 6.

That is the reason , I went for WISC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GBRS 6 is very low. What did the teacher say?

Teacher said that he is very shy in class . We totally understand because she is new to school and takes time to adjust. But she also said that she does well and was able to work on the new concepts very easily even though she went for vacation. But still, I do not understand how she gave the GBRS 6.

That is the reason , I went for WISC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We got our acceptance letter today in 20171. Thankful to be at a school that has full time level 4 so he doesn't have to change schools!

Can you please elaborate on the pros and cons of using the base school vs. the center?

Do all the kids that go to the base school level iv have to be admitted by the ap committee?

I would appreciate any info on this.

My son got into AAP last school year and went to the center school. I felt we made the wrong decision sending him there because his teacher was indifferent to him. She would send me emails telling me he does not submit his work on time...always like that. The teacher even jumped the gun on one occasion saying my son made an inappropriate comment in one of the group project in their computer lab but it turned out he was not the one who did it (investigated by an IT person). To make up for that mistaken identity fiasco, the teacher volunteered to help my son in one of the subject that he was having difficulty. Not only that, my son felt the teacher was picking on him. Probably this AAP center school experience depends on the teacher, but we will see till the next school year in 5th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just got my DS's wish v result, do you think he can get into the aap, I'm think to appeal for him.

FSIQ :139, 99.5%
GAI : 144, 99.8%
VCI : 146, 99.9%
VSI : 132, 98%
FRI : 137, 99%
WMI : 112, 79%
PSI : 108, 70%

Because he has low score on NNAT and Cogat, both are 123 and low GBRS, which is 8.

I would like to know that if my DS will be rejected this year, what can I do? I wanted to prepare the worst, thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got our acceptance letter today in 20171. Thankful to be at a school that has full time level 4 so he doesn't have to change schools!

Can you please elaborate on the pros and cons of using the base school vs. the center?

Do all the kids that go to the base school level iv have to be admitted by the ap committee?

I would appreciate any info on this.

My son got into AAP last school year and went to the center school. I felt we made the wrong decision sending him there because his teacher was indifferent to him. She would send me emails telling me he does not submit his work on time...always like that. The teacher even jumped the gun on one occasion saying my so

n made an inappropriate comment in one of the group project in their computer lab but it turned out he was not the one who did it (investigated by an IT person). To make up for that mistaken identity fiasco, the teacher volunteered to help my son in one of the subject that he was having difficulty. Not only that, my son felt the teacher was picking on him. Probably this AAP center school experience depends on the teacher, but we will see till the next school year in 5th grade.

Well, did he submit his work on time? Wouldn't you want to know that? If it took an It person to find the culprit, sounds like you're looking for problems with this teacher. Also, it sounds like you're overlooking issues your son does have like turning work in on time and that he is having difficulty because now the teacher is helping him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got my DS's wish v result, do you think he can get into the aap, I'm think to appeal for him.

FSIQ :139, 99.5%
GAI : 144, 99.8%
VCI : 146, 99.9%
VSI : 132, 98%
FRI : 137, 99%
WMI : 112, 79%
PSI : 108, 70%

Because he has low score on NNAT and Cogat, both are 123 and low GBRS, which is 8.

I would like to know that if my DS will be rejected this year, what can I do? I wanted to prepare the worst, thanks!

Your DS FSIQ score is exactly the same as my Son FSIQ Score. We had appealed the file yesterday. My Son GBRS is 6. But his lLast year COGAT is 134. We are thinking that they will select with FSIQ 139. It is good Score. Lets see. Fingers Crossed. If they are rejected then , Only Option I have is to prepare her for COGAT again this year. Which grade is your DS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got my DS's wish v result, do you think he can get into the aap, I'm think to appeal for him.

FSIQ :139, 99.5%
GAI : 144, 99.8%
VCI : 146, 99.9%
VSI : 132, 98%
FRI : 137, 99%
WMI : 112, 79%
PSI : 108, 70%

Because he has low score on NNAT and Cogat, both are 123 and low GBRS, which is 8.

I would like to know that if my DS will be rejected this year, what can I do? I wanted to prepare the worst, thanks!

Your DS FSIQ score is exactly the same as my Son FSIQ Score. We had appealed the file yesterday. My Son GBRS is 6. But his lLast year COGAT is 134. We are thinking that they will select with FSIQ 139. It is good Score. Lets see. Fingers Crossed. If they are rejected then , Only Option I have is to prepare her for COGAT again this year. Which grade is your DS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got my DS's wish v result, do you think he can get into the aap, I'm think to appeal for him.

FSIQ :139, 99.5%
GAI : 144, 99.8%
VCI : 146, 99.9%
VSI : 132, 98%
FRI : 137, 99%
WMI : 112, 79%
PSI : 108, 70%

Because he has low score on NNAT and Cogat, both are 123 and low GBRS, which is 8.

I would like to know that if my DS will be rejected this year, what can I do? I wanted to prepare the worst, thanks!

Your DS FSIQ score is exactly the same as my Son FSIQ Score. We had appealed the file yesterday. My Son GBRS is 6.
But his lLast year COGAT is 134. We are thinking that they will select with FSIQ 139. It is good Score. Lets see. Fingers Crossed. If they are rejected then , Only Option I have is to prepare her for COGAT again this year. Which grade is your DS?

FSIQ- 139

VCI - 133
VSI - 126
FRI - 144
WMI - 112
PSI - 126
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FSIQ - 139
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Last year COGAT - 134.
This year COGAT - 119.
GBRS - 6

[Anonymous]

Below the Scores WHO APPEALED last year -

APPEALS:
WISC 128 (97%), but VCI and VSI were 99%, which we've heard are the main scores looked at for AAP. Cogat 136, NNAT 109.
IN

wisc 128, nnat 116, Cogat 128.
IN

NNAT - 114
COGAT - 119
GBRS - 10
WISC V - 126
IN


NNAT- 107
COGAT - 123
GBRS - 10
IN

NNAT 113
COGAT 118
WISC 120
GBRS 14
IN

NNAT 124
Cogat 129
WISC 129
GBRS 14
IN

We have almost the same scores except 121 WISC., 15 GBRS. Not in
NOT IN

WISC of 120 and GBRS 10 and admitted on appeal.

Cogat 128 WISC V 126 VCI 130 - DS is in on appeal.

NNAT - 123
GOGAT - 114
GBRS - 12
WISC - 129 (97%; w/134 in Fluid Reasoning)
NOT IN

Nnat 113
Cogat -118, composite 124
Gbrs -13
Wisc -133
IN

NNAT 133
CogAT 119
GBRS 10
WISC V 133
IN

NNAT: 121
COGAT: 124
WISC: 127 FSIQ with Fluid Reasoning, Verbal Comprehension and puzzles in low 130s and average/above average processing and working memory (Dr. said they look more at other subscores)
GBRS: 8 (low, I know. Be sure to check your child's file. There were errors and mistakes on his report card, which must have been an early version.)
IN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got my DS's wish v result, do you think he can get into the aap, I'm think to appeal for him.

FSIQ :139, 99.5%
GAI : 144, 99.8%
VCI : 146, 99.9%
VSI : 132, 98%
FRI : 137, 99%
WMI : 112, 79%
PSI : 108, 70%

Because he has low score on NNAT and Cogat, both are 123 and low GBRS, which is 8.

I would like to know that if my DS will be rejected this year, what can I do? I wanted to prepare the worst, thanks!

You can do a parent referral in the Spring of 2018 for admission in the 2018-19 school year. They'll do a new GBRS at that time. You can also request one test retake - most people recommend doing it for the CogAT. You'd have to request it this fall so the school adds him to the testing schedule. You'll also have the opportunity to do a new parent questionnaire and submit new work samples. Have you explored the gap among the subscores on the WISC? Seems like there may be some 2e stuff going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. based on the feedbacks, i dont think i can attach wisc score to appeal or even appeal. may be my DD can try out next year.
But please note that this doesnt make my DD less smart:
1) She repeats any songs after she listens to it for 2 times
2) Recently won a math olympiad prize
3) also a gifted chess player

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Anonymous wrote:My DD WISC has come out ...

Verbal Comprehension 113 ==> 81 percentile = High average
Visual spatial index 102 ==> 55 percentile = average
Fluid Reasoning Index 112 ==> 79 percentile = High average
Working Memory index 117 ==> 87 percentile = High average
processing speed ==> 116 ==> 86 percentile = High average

Please advise if GT appeal works.

Those are average scores especially for an FCPS classroom. Many children in general ed are much brighter.

STOP - YOU TROLL. The average FCPS student hasn't taken the WISC and the brightest kids.... they come to the surface after 3rd grade.

You don't think most FCPS kids have IQs in the low 100s? Average is 90-110 range. If they tested every kid, pp's kid would be smack in the middle.

I have a DC who is a horrible test taker and an introvert, despite great grades. DC's NNAT and COGAT were low, GBRS was not great. WISC was good, but I didn't think it was good enough to appeal. I didn't. But...DC got principal placed in AAP anyway (our local one, but we would not have opted for the center even if we could because DC had a good group of friends). DC, who is now in 6th grade, has consistently been one of the best students in the class and loves it. Sometimes your school knows what your child needs even if the test scores don't show it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got my DS's wish v result, do you think he can get into the aap, I'm think to appeal for him.

FSIQ :139, 99.5%
GAI : 144, 99.8%
VCI : 146, 99.9%
VSI : 132, 98%
FRI : 137, 99%
WMI : 112, 79%
PSI : 108, 70%

Because he has low score on NNAT and Cogat, both are 123 and low GBRS, which is 8.

I would like to know that if my DS will be rejected this year, what can I do? I wanted to prepare the worst, thanks!

You can do a parent referral in the Spring of 2018 for admission in the 2018-19 school year. They'll do a new GBRS at that time. You can also request one test retake - most people recommend doing it for the CogAT. You'd have to request it this fall so the school adds him to the testing schedule. You'll also have the opportunity to do a new parent questionnaire and submit new work samples. Have you explored the gap among the subscores on the WISC? Seems like there may be some 2e stuff going on.

The psychologist didn't mention 2e to us and she said WMI & PSI are low but they are normal. She said DS did get her the answer but after thinking awhile who would get her more in details.