2017 AAP Admission Thread

[Anonymous]

NNAT 123
Cogat 120
GBRS 14
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[Anonymous]

I agree that the GBRS seems to be given a lot more weight than anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It appears that the difference in many of the discrepancies in high test scores not eligible, vs comparatively low scores and eligible, is GBRS. I had no idea this was such a weighted factor as it is seemingly such a subjective assessment. If a child's test scores identify a gifted mind, it would stand to reason that that child would be a good candidate for a more challenging curriculum regardless of the teachers experience in a normal classroom environment. I certainly don't want to trivialize the educators assessment but a subjective factor should not outweigh otherwise qualifying test scores (in my opinion).

NNAT 136
cogat 128
GBRS ?

Not eligible

Your child only had one high test score, not two (not plural) and it was the less important of the two. I'm not trying to be mean but had your child been in the pool from both high test scores (132 or above on both tests), it is highly unlikely you're child would not be admitted.

[Anonymous]

Wow never knew GBRS weighs more than NNAT and Cogat. My son did not get in due to low GBRS. Time is not utilized properly in those 8 hrs of school. My son is bright but due to poor class curriculum my son is distracted and not IMPRESSING the teacher. Had to use the term "IMPRESS". I give third grade maths work to my son at home and he does it good. Need to wait till next year and have to keep my son motivated, which is so tough. Sorry to say that education here in general school is not challenging.

So for admitting to fourth grade AAP, DS is going to get GBRS again in third grade?

[Anonymous]

I heard that if appealing then one can talk to the class teacher. One of our friend's daughter got in after appealing and heard the parents were going around the class teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that the difference in many of the discrepancies in high test scores not eligible, vs comparatively low scores and eligible, is GBRS. I had no idea this was such a weighted factor as it is seemingly such a subjective assessment. If a child's test scores identify a gifted mind, it would stand to reason that that child would be a good candidate for a more challenging curriculum regardless of the teachers experience in a normal classroom environment. I certainly don't want to trivialize the educators assessment but a subjective factor should not outweigh otherwise qualifying test scores (in my opinion).

NNAT 136
cogat 128
GBRS ?

Not eligible

Your child only had one high test score, not two (not plural) and it was the less important of the two. I'm not trying to be mean but had your child been in the pool from both high test scores (132 or above on both tests), it is highly unlikely you're child would not be admitted.

My child had similar scores last year and didn't get in with a gbrs of 11. We did the Wisc which was 129 and child was accepted. The school isn't contacted on appeal. It's frustrating when kids who weren't in the pool at all get in and your child who was in the pool is denied. You should appeal.

[Anonymous]

NNAT 122
CogAT 128
GBRS 13
WISC-V 136

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that the difference in many of the discrepancies in high test scores not eligible, vs comparatively low scores and eligible, is GBRS. I had no idea this was such a weighted factor as it is seemingly such a subjective assessment. If a child's test scores identify a gifted mind, it would stand to reason that that child would be a good candidate for a more challenging curriculum regardless of the teachers experience in a normal classroom environment. I certainly don't want to trivialize the educators assessment but a subjective factor should not outweigh otherwise qualifying test scores (in my opinion).

NNAT 136
cogat 128
GBRS ?

Not eligible

Your child only had one high test score, not two (not plural) and it was the less important of the two. I'm not trying to be mean but had your child been in the pool from both high test scores (132 or above on both tests), it is highly unlikely you're child would not be admitted.

My child had similar scores last year and didn't get in with a gbrs of 11. We did the Wisc which was 129 and child was accepted. The school isn't contacted on appeal. It's frustrating when kids who weren't in the pool at all get in and your child who was in the pool is denied. You should appeal.

PP - DS has NNAT - 126, COGAT 128 not in. WISC V - 125 (FRI 99%, VSI 97%), not sure if we should appeal, do you know what the committee looks for in WISC V sub scores

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize people prepped 1st and 2nd graders for these tests until after my kid had taken both of them. We didn't even know that they were administering the NNAT until we got the score report.

How do you even get a 6-8 year old to test prep? Practice tests? Games? I can't see either of mine being at all interested in that.

When I see kids with consistently high scores and a low GBRS, I assume that they are either shy about sharing their talents in class or have a personality conflict with their teacher, but I'm also not on the selection committee so my opinion probably doesn't matter.

It's big among certain ethnic groups. People sign their kids up for classes that teach them how to take the tests.

I disagree with PP's assertion about "certain ethnic groups". Look, if your kid is dumber than a box of rocks, no prepping will get him/her into AAP.

I think we can agree that we're not talking about Steven Hawking smart. We're just talking about your-average-geniuses. For the later, it a mixture of talent, hard work and dedicated parents. Making time everyday to do homework with your child has more impact than any test prep. Just stop griping about what you perceive in "certain ethnic groups". There is NO limit on the AAP class sizes. There is room for everyone. Just worry about your own kid.

Uhhhh....because they are 7 years old.

Doing homework everyday with your kid does more for overall academic success, but being prepped on how to do the problems on the NNAT and CogAT has a bigger impact on the test results. That's why when kids are preparing for the SATs they don't just rely on homework, they actually take practice SATs. You are right about no limits on number of admits, so I don't care if any eithnic groups prep, but prepping for tests using tests will similar materials can make a bigger difference than homework.

So... why is prepping for the SATs okay but not for AAP? Because one is accepted by the main stream but the other is not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: We did not test prep him to death. We just wanted DS to be familiar with the questions. I don't think I would have been able to raise his score all that much with going over the one test. Perhaps a few careless mistakes on questions. I think some people on this forum may consider this cheating, which I think is ridiculous. He also has all 4s on his report card. I am sure DS would have gotten into AAP whether we went over the one practice test or not.

Don't delude yourself. A few careless mistakes on a few questions IS the difference between a 138 and a mid 120's score. The scoring is very harsh at the top, and a single extra problem wrong can be the difference between a 140 and a 130 on any section.

Well my kid is in and I am sure he will do great in AAP. DS is highly motivated. You can make yourself feel better by calling us cheats. AAP takes like 15% of the student population. DS would have made that cut off.

Your son sounds awesome!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in McLean & rumors rage about underground Asian test prep going on. That's the word on the street. But I think that relates more to the bigger picture--the TJ goal!!!! Some keep their eyes on the TJ prize--AAP is just the stepping stone.

Name your school.

If you want to make serious accusations, then you should provide specifics.

Because I live in McLean but I've never heard about this underground prepping raging through our community.

Ahhhh....yes...the well known by little discussed in public UATP

[Anonymous]

Hi there,

I have a question, I'm not in your county but it seems that all the experts on these scores hang out here so someone could answer my question.

My son took the Cogat. His scores were high (he is VERY bright but also has 2 disabilities, so I'm not here to brag about my 'perfect' child)

He scored

Verbal 142
Quantitative 144
Non verbal 136
Composite 147

But when I am looking at his raw scores it looks like he got 50/50 correct on Quantitative but the score is 144. Why is this the case? Shouldn't it be a perfect score if he got all of the questions correct?

I'm confused and would love some insight.

It's also interesting as he is far more gifted in language arts but has a lower score.

Many thanks in advance

[Anonymous]

17:01, how old was you child when he took the test? And what grade?

If your child was 8 and 10 mos. and most of the kids are 7 and 6 mos, then it is expected that an older child will do better on the same test, so the scores are age-adjusted.

My child is young for his grade and if he got the same number right as an older child, it would indicate that he was potentially more advanced b/c he is able to do the same at a year younger (this is just an example).

If your child isn't on the older side, then I don't know.

[Anonymous]

Ah that makes sense...he is 2nd grade. He was 8 and 4 months (so pretty much middle of the pack). I see what you mean regarding age and difference. I think you could be right. Thank you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that the difference in many of the discrepancies in high test scores not eligible, vs comparatively low scores and eligible, is GBRS. I had no idea this was such a weighted factor as it is seemingly such a subjective assessment. If a child's test scores identify a gifted mind, it would stand to reason that that child would be a good candidate for a more challenging curriculum regardless of the teachers experience in a normal classroom environment. I certainly don't want to trivialize the educators assessment but a subjective factor should not outweigh otherwise qualifying test scores (in my opinion).

NNAT 136
cogat 128
GBRS ?

Not eligible

Your child only had one high test score, not two (not plural) and it was the less important of the two. I'm not trying to be mean but had your child been in the pool from both high test scores (132 or above on both tests), it is highly unlikely you're child would not be admitted.

13:41 posted these scores and only had one high score (GBRS)- the other scores didn't put the child in the pool. Not sure why you are trying to make rhyme or reason on this selection. FWIW, my kids are in AAP and got in first round- so not bitter or angry.

NNAT 123
Cogat 120
GBRS 14
In