Question about re zoning elementary schools in S. Arlington

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s the question I am happy to live in S Arlington. The N Arlington folks thinking they deserve more are just a holes.

But the SA folks who want to bus NA kids to SA to whiten up their neighborhood school and validate their real estate investment....those folks are just peachy.

I'm UMC and not white. We just want schools that are high quality and serve all the students. Maybe that means carve outs for students not learning English, so they can be challenged.

That will never happen and there aren't the resources to do it. Besides the fact that aps claims it does when it doesnt

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

And they try to make it seem like the SA neighborhood schools are failing. They aren't failing. Those schools do a great job teaching English language learners. It's the small minority of white UMC whose needs aren't being served. You get what you pay for.

Yes, I get what I pay for, and they get what I pay for. Everyone wins?

[Anonymous]

The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

One way would be to eliminate option schools, and have NA UMC continue to tell their SA counterparts that "you get what you pay for" and "move to Fairfax". Cool. If we do that, it'll open up plenty of seats in SA schools for NA kids to get rezoned to, to alleviate overcrowding. Most SA schools are at or under capacity because people avoid them. (Exceptions being Oakridge and Henry, which were alone granted permission to gentrify.)

Then we'd get to see how you like the taste of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

One way would be to eliminate option schools, and have NA UMC continue to tell their SA counterparts that "you get what you pay for" and "move to Fairfax". Cool. If we do that, it'll open up plenty of seats in SA schools for NA kids to get rezoned to, to alleviate overcrowding. Most SA schools are at or under capacity because people avoid them. (Exceptions being Oakridge and Henry, which were alone granted permission to gentrify.)

Then we'd get to see how you like the taste of it.

Those SA seats will become countywide choice school seats. No problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

One way would be to eliminate option schools, and have NA UMC continue to tell their SA counterparts that "you get what you pay for" and "move to Fairfax". Cool. If we do that, it'll open up plenty of seats in SA schools for NA kids to get rezoned to, to alleviate overcrowding. Most SA schools are at or under capacity because people avoid them. (Exceptions being Oakridge and Henry, which were alone granted permission to gentrify.)

Then we'd get to see how you like the taste of it.

Those SA seats will become countywide choice school seats. No problem.

No, remember, in this scenario, we're first getting rid of option schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

One way would be to eliminate option schools, and have NA UMC continue to tell their SA counterparts that "you get what you pay for" and "move to Fairfax". Cool. If we do that, it'll open up plenty of seats in SA schools for NA kids to get rezoned to, to alleviate overcrowding. Most SA schools are at or under capacity because people avoid them. (Exceptions being Oakridge and Henry, which were alone granted permission to gentrify.)

Then we'd get to see how you like the taste of it.

Those SA seats will become countywide choice school seats. No problem.

No, remember, in this scenario, we're first getting rid of option schools.

This will never happen. They aren't going to get rid of their most diverse and successful schools for a "theory" that it will somehow encourage desegregation of neighborhood schools. Nope. They know better. They might move them around to better balance the system in places where the balance is so off within the logical zone that it can never be possible for a balance without outsiders opting to bus into the school for a special program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

One way would be to eliminate option schools, and have NA UMC continue to tell their SA counterparts that "you get what you pay for" and "move to Fairfax". Cool. If we do that, it'll open up plenty of seats in SA schools for NA kids to get rezoned to, to alleviate overcrowding. Most SA schools are at or under capacity because people avoid them. (Exceptions being Oakridge and Henry, which were alone granted permission to gentrify.)

Then we'd get to see how you like the taste of it.

Those SA seats will become countywide choice school seats. No problem.

No, remember, in this scenario, we're first getting rid of option schools.

So in your scenario, UMC SA families move to Fairfax and their houses remain uninhabited? Sounds like those choosing to move will be the truly unfortunate ones, shouldering the burden of multiple mortgages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

No one is asking for "a Lexus". I don't want my kid to go to a school where 95% of the student body is white, Asian or both. All I want is a school that is say, 20-40% disadvantaged. That's not even a Civic. It's a like a 1998 Saturn. That's too much to ask in Arlington County? I don't want a thing from NA except to stop electing childless boomers who don't care about anything except parting each other's backs for building more and more affordable housing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

One way would be to eliminate option schools, and have NA UMC continue to tell their SA counterparts that "you get what you pay for" and "move to Fairfax". Cool. If we do that, it'll open up plenty of seats in SA schools for NA kids to get rezoned to, to alleviate overcrowding. Most SA schools are at or under capacity because people avoid them. (Exceptions being Oakridge and Henry, which were alone granted permission to gentrify.)

Then we'd get to see how you like the taste of it.[/quo

Those SA seats will become countywide choice school seats. No problem.

No, remember, in this scenario, we're first getting rid of option schools.

So in your scenario, UMC SA families move to Fairfax and their houses remain uninhabited? Sounds like those choosing to move will be the truly unfortunate ones, shouldering the burden of multiple mortgages.

The best part about these threads is how much SA people know about NA and how very little NA people know about SA. So, here's the deal: people who don't get into an option school generally sell their house to a younger version of themselves, who in 5-10 years do the same when they discover the reality of south Arlington school segregation and housing policies. Others go private. There's no problem selling your house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

No one is asking for "a Lexus". I don't want my kid to go to a school where 95% of the student body is white, Asian or both. All I want is a school that is say, 20-40% disadvantaged. That's not even a Civic. It's a like a 1998 Saturn. That's too much to ask in Arlington County? I don't want a thing from NA except to stop electing childless boomers who don't care about anything except parting each other's backs for building more and more affordable housing

Eliminate the choice schools and force all the neighborhood schools to start tracking in kindergarten. Support SB candidates who pledge to implement it. You’ll get NA to vote with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

No one is asking for "a Lexus". I don't want my kid to go to a school where 95% of the student body is white, Asian or both. All I want is a school that is say, 20-40% disadvantaged. That's not even a Civic. It's a like a 1998 Saturn. That's too much to ask in Arlington County? I don't want a thing from NA except to stop electing childless boomers who don't care about anything except parting each other's backs for building more and more affordable housing

Eliminate the choice schools and force all the neighborhood schools to start tracking in kindergarten. Support SB candidates who pledge to implement it. You’ll get NA to vote with you.

No, I'll get attacked as "a racist" or a "tea partier" and NA won't say a word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

A lot of Lexuses down here south of the 50 border. I know they don't belong to NA people; because they won't cross 50 for anything unless they absolutely have to.