Question about re zoning elementary schools in S. Arlington

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you all keep talking about Gilliam place as primarily for seniors? It is not. Only 11 of the 173 units are accessible. There is no age restrictions now on any of the websites. It was sold to the community as senior housing, but as it usually happens, there is a bait and switch. This is family housing everyone, and that was the plan from the get go. It is a strategy apah and ahc use because there is a growing resistance to more cafs full of children.

Amen! But I guarantee you, the CAFs at the American Legion project in north Arlington will be senior units, studios, and one-bedrooms.

If you bothered to look at the submitted plan you would know that it is supposed to be 100% CAF with 160 units (48 units (30%) 1 bedroom, 87 units (54%) 2 bedrooms, and 25 units (16%) 3 bedrooms).
But I am sure that APAH will only predict about 20 students. Plus once they redo the rezoning, they will get sent to Ashlawn or Glebe so they don’t impact any of the low FARMs schools.

The submitted plan doesn't mean much. As noted in the original post, how it's presented initially is not necessarily what actually gets built. That's the point. So, I'll be thrilled to see all of those units house 60% AMI and below APS students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you all keep talking about Gilliam place as primarily for seniors? It is not. Only 11 of the 173 units are accessible. There is no age restrictions now on any of the websites. It was sold to the community as senior housing, but as it usually happens, there is a bait and switch. This is family housing everyone, and that was the plan from the get go. It is a strategy apah and ahc use because there is a growing resistance to more cafs full of children.

Amen! But I guarantee you, the CAFs at the American Legion project in north Arlington will be senior units, studios, and one-bedrooms.

If you bothered to look at the submitted plan you would know that it is supposed to be 100% CAF with 160 units (48 units (30%) 1 bedroom, 87 units (54%) 2 bedrooms, and 25 units (16%) 3 bedrooms).
But I am sure that APAH will only predict about 20 students. Plus once they redo the rezoning, they will get sent to Ashlawn or Glebe so they don’t impact any of the low FARMs schools.

The submitted plan doesn't mean much. As noted in the original post, how it's presented initially is not necessarily what actually gets built. That's the point. So, I'll be thrilled to see all of those units house 60% AMI and below APS students.

As noted in the original post they sometimes try to pitch affordable housing as for seniors, due to growing resistance to more CAFs full of children. They are not doing that here. There is no bait and switch, it is being pitched as family housing. Can you point to another project where the number of CAFs for families decreased significantly from the submitted plans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you all keep talking about Gilliam place as primarily for seniors? It is not. Only 11 of the 173 units are accessible. There is no age restrictions now on any of the websites. It was sold to the community as senior housing, but as it usually happens, there is a bait and switch. This is family housing everyone, and that was the plan from the get go. It is a strategy apah and ahc use because there is a growing resistance to more cafs full of children.

Amen! But I guarantee you, the CAFs at the American Legion project in north Arlington will be senior units, studios, and one-bedrooms.

If you bothered to look at the submitted plan you would know that it is supposed to be 100% CAF with 160 units (48 units (30%) 1 bedroom, 87 units (54%) 2 bedrooms, and 25 units (16%) 3 bedrooms).
But I am sure that APAH will only predict about 20 students. Plus once they redo the rezoning, they will get sent to Ashlawn or Glebe so they don’t impact any of the low FARMs schools.

The submitted plan doesn't mean much. As noted in the original post, how it's presented initially is not necessarily what actually gets built. That's the point. So, I'll be thrilled to see all of those units house 60% AMI and below APS students.

How're things up there in Donaldson Run, Thrilled?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you all keep talking about Gilliam place as primarily for seniors? It is not. Only 11 of the 173 units are accessible. There is no age restrictions now on any of the websites. It was sold to the community as senior housing, but as it usually happens, there is a bait and switch. This is family housing everyone, and that was the plan from the get go. It is a strategy apah and ahc use because there is a growing resistance to more cafs full of children.

Amen! But I guarantee you, the CAFs at the American Legion project in north Arlington will be senior units, studios, and one-bedrooms.

If you bothered to look at the submitted plan you would know that it is supposed to be 100% CAF with 160 units (48 units (30%) 1 bedroom, 87 units (54%) 2 bedrooms, and 25 units (16%) 3 bedrooms).
But I am sure that APAH will only predict about 20 students. Plus once they redo the rezoning, they will get sent to Ashlawn or Glebe so they don’t impact any of the low FARMs schools.

The submitted plan doesn't mean much. As noted in the original post, how it's presented initially is not necessarily what actually gets built. That's the point. So, I'll be thrilled to see all of those units house 60% AMI and below APS students.

How're things up there in Donaldson Run, Thrilled?

I imagine they are just fine, but I don't go up that way much since live "all the way down" here in the south. But I'm still happy to share with north Arlington.

[Anonymous]

I know this thread is geared towards S. Arlington, but will the zoning affect Lyon Village? We are currently in the Key/ASFS district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know this thread is geared towards S. Arlington, but will the zoning affect Lyon Village? We are currently in the Key/ASFS district.

Not in the current re-zoning but you will be affected in the next wave of re-zoning to prepare for Reed opening in 2021.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know this thread is geared towards S. Arlington, but will the zoning affect Lyon Village? We are currently in the Key/ASFS district.

There's a whole other thread about that, but, short answer is: no. The Key/ASFS district will be dealt with later after the two schools swap buildings in 2020 or 2021.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know this thread is geared towards S. Arlington, but will the zoning affect Lyon Village? We are currently in the Key/ASFS district.

Not in the current re-zoning but you will be affected in the next wave of re-zoning to prepare for Reed opening in 2021.

I think (I hope) that this was actually a parody post.

[Anonymous]

I happened to drive by The Berkley today. I hadn't realized its precise location previously. How on earth did that wind up carved out of Oakridge on any maps and in Drew's walk zone? Was that based on feedback from the current Oakridge "walk zone" parents trung to get them pushed out of the school? How would they even get to Drew? They can't walk across or even under the 395 interchange (no sidewalk). How would busing them to Drew be anything other than purposeful segregation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know this thread is geared towards S. Arlington, but will the zoning affect Lyon Village? We are currently in the Key/ASFS district.

I wanna know about this too. Somebody should start a thread about concerns for ASFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I happened to drive by The Berkley today. I hadn't realized its precise location previously. How on earth did that wind up carved out of Oakridge on any maps and in Drew's walk zone? Was that based on feedback from the current Oakridge "walk zone" parents trung to get them pushed out of the school? How would they even get to Drew? They can't walk across or even under the 395 interchange (no sidewalk). How would busing them to Drew be anything other than purposeful segregation?

I don't really know the answer to your question, but I'm guessing the Berkley isn't in any walk zone because it's on the other side of Glebe. I don't think any elementary kids can cross Glebe under any circumstances. And I don't think the plan is for the Berkeley to be in Drew's *walk* zone. Those kids may be on the bus no matter what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I happened to drive by The Berkley today. I hadn't realized its precise location previously. How on earth did that wind up carved out of Oakridge on any maps and in Drew's walk zone? Was that based on feedback from the current Oakridge "walk zone" parents trung to get them pushed out of the school? How would they even get to Drew? They can't walk across or even under the 395 interchange (no sidewalk). How would busing them to Drew be anything other than purposeful segregation?

I don't really know the answer to your question, but I'm guessing the Berkley isn't in any walk zone because it's on the other side of Glebe. I don't think any elementary kids can cross Glebe under any circumstances. And I don't think the plan is for the Berkeley to be in Drew's *walk* zone. Those kids may be on the bus no matter what.

It's not in the walk zone, I checked. It's just outside of it because Glebe is offlimits, though there are two signaled crosswalks adjacent to the building. Not sure if middle schoolers are allowed to cross. That buildingis going to need more than one bus when completed. It's worth paying a crossing guard or improving the pedestrian infrastructure. It'll cost the same or less in the end.

Also, APS should analyze which buildings or parcels have the highest student density and do their best to put them in walk zones. The alternative is running two or three busses to the same building. Inefficient and expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I happened to drive by The Berkley today. I hadn't realized its precise location previously. How on earth did that wind up carved out of Oakridge on any maps and in Drew's walk zone? Was that based on feedback from the current Oakridge "walk zone" parents trung to get them pushed out of the school? How would they even get to Drew? They can't walk across or even under the 395 interchange (no sidewalk). How would busing them to Drew be anything other than purposeful segregation?

I don't really know the answer to your question, but I'm guessing the Berkley isn't in any walk zone because it's on the other side of Glebe. I don't think any elementary kids can cross Glebe under any circumstances. And I don't think the plan is for the Berkeley to be in Drew's *walk* zone. Those kids may be on the bus no matter what.

The answer to your question is that it would be nothing other than purposeful segregation. Shameful it was even shown on a map.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know this thread is geared towards S. Arlington, but will the zoning affect Lyon Village? We are currently in the Key/ASFS district.

I wanna know about this too. Somebody should start a thread about concerns for ASFS.

I’m am also concerned about the lack of attention being given to ASFS on this board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know this thread is geared towards S. Arlington, but will the zoning affect Lyon Village? We are currently in the Key/ASFS district.

I wanna know about this too. Somebody should start a thread about concerns for ASFS.

I’m am also concerned about the lack of attention being given to ASFS on this board.

Actually, Lyon Village will be zoned to Barcroft and Alcova Heights will go to ASFS. All walking.