Question about re zoning elementary schools in S. Arlington

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Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

No one is asking for "a Lexus". I don't want my kid to go to a school where 95% of the student body is white, Asian or both. All I want is a school that is say, 20-40% disadvantaged. That's not even a Civic. It's a like a 1998 Saturn. That's too much to ask in Arlington County? I don't want a thing from NA except to stop electing childless boomers who don't care about anything except parting each other's backs for building more and more affordable housing

Eliminate the choice schools and force all the neighborhood schools to start tracking in kindergarten. Support SB candidates who pledge to implement it. You’ll get NA to vote with you.

No, I'll get attacked as "a racist" or a "tea partier" and NA won't say a word.

But but but “ tu Voz cuenta”!!!!!!
Just kidding, ya racist!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

One way would be to eliminate option schools, and have NA UMC continue to tell their SA counterparts that "you get what you pay for" and "move to Fairfax". Cool. If we do that, it'll open up plenty of seats in SA schools for NA kids to get rezoned to, to alleviate overcrowding. Most SA schools are at or under capacity because people avoid them. (Exceptions being Oakridge and Henry, which were alone granted permission to gentrify.)

Then we'd get to see how you like the taste of it.[/quo

Those SA seats will become countywide choice school seats. No problem.

No, remember, in this scenario, we're first getting rid of option schools.

So in your scenario, UMC SA families move to Fairfax and their houses remain uninhabited? Sounds like those choosing to move will be the truly unfortunate ones, shouldering the burden of multiple mortgages.

The best part about these threads is how much SA people know about NA and how very little NA people know about SA. So, here's the deal: people who don't get into an option school generally sell their house to a younger version of themselves, who in 5-10 years do the same when they discover the reality of south Arlington school segregation and housing policies. Others go private. There's no problem selling your house.

Ok so this is what I’m watching. South Arlington neighborhoods have a bit of Ponzi scheme going. I’m wondering if everyone will find a chair when the music stops.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

No one is asking for "a Lexus". I don't want my kid to go to a school where 95% of the student body is white, Asian or both. All I want is a school that is say, 20-40% disadvantaged. That's not even a Civic. It's a like a 1998 Saturn. That's too much to ask in Arlington County? I don't want a thing from NA except to stop electing childless boomers who don't care about anything except parting each other's backs for building more and more affordable housing

This creature represents the most insufferable type of SA liberals- the social engineer: they want black and brown, but not too many and they don’t want too many whites or Asians either, but they want a substantial majority of them. And they want to impose their world view on NA and families that have been living here for many years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CB has condemned and is continuing to condemn kids in SA to a bad education. Instead of finding ways to reduce the poor population by implementing policies that bring gentrification, this CB is doing its level best to ATTRACT poors to Arlington. If the CB continues unabated, NA will soon feel the effects.

How?
They won’t. NA won’t have to deal with it.

One way would be to eliminate option schools, and have NA UMC continue to tell their SA counterparts that "you get what you pay for" and "move to Fairfax". Cool. If we do that, it'll open up plenty of seats in SA schools for NA kids to get rezoned to, to alleviate overcrowding. Most SA schools are at or under capacity because people avoid them. (Exceptions being Oakridge and Henry, which were alone granted permission to gentrify.)

Then we'd get to see how you like the taste of it.[/quo

Those SA seats will become countywide choice school seats. No problem.

No, remember, in this scenario, we're first getting rid of option schools.

So in your scenario, UMC SA families move to Fairfax and their houses remain uninhabited? Sounds like those choosing to move will be the truly unfortunate ones, shouldering the burden of multiple mortgages.

The best part about these threads is how much SA people know about NA and how very little NA people know about SA. So, here's the deal: people who don't get into an option school generally sell their house to a younger version of themselves, who in 5-10 years do the same when they discover the reality of south Arlington school segregation and housing policies. Others go private. There's no problem selling your house.

Ok so this is what I’m watching. South Arlington neighborhoods have a bit of Ponzi scheme going. I’m wondering if everyone will find a chair when the music stops.

It's not quite a Ponzi scheme, but sorta -- APS says "all schools are good!" And people (young couples in SA) buy it, at first. There used to be capacity at option schools to deal with the inevitable disillusionment and realization that schools are good, but only good for their target audience. SA schools are generally not good enough for kids who come to school prepared to learn and have had say, 20 minutes of reading every night since they've were born. Now the district is super crowded and option school lottery is becoming a real make or break moment. So now APS is actually having to deal with the high expectations of SA parents. They are still making accommodations and trying to fit them in wherever they can (options, even NA schools) to avoid them making a stink, but that won't work for much longer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

No one is asking for "a Lexus". I don't want my kid to go to a school where 95% of the student body is white, Asian or both. All I want is a school that is say, 20-40% disadvantaged. That's not even a Civic. It's a like a 1998 Saturn. That's too much to ask in Arlington County? I don't want a thing from NA except to stop electing childless boomers who don't care about anything except parting each other's backs for building more and more affordable housing

This creature represents the most insufferable type of SA liberals- the social engineer: they want black and brown, but not too many and they don’t want too many whites or Asians either, but they want a substantial majority of them. And they want to impose their world view on NA and families that have been living here for many years.

There’s a “creature” here alright. Crawl back under your rock.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

No one is asking for "a Lexus". I don't want my kid to go to a school where 95% of the student body is white, Asian or both. All I want is a school that is say, 20-40% disadvantaged. That's not even a Civic. It's a like a 1998 Saturn. That's too much to ask in Arlington County? I don't want a thing from NA except to stop electing childless boomers who don't care about anything except parting each other's backs for building more and more affordable housing

This creature represents the most insufferable type of SA liberals- the social engineer: they want black and brown, but not too many and they don’t want too many whites or Asians either, but they want a substantial majority of them. And they want to impose their world view on NA and families that have been living here for many years.

There’s a “creature” here alright. Crawl back under your rock.

Yup, us insufferable integrationists! Let's go back to how things were, "many years" ago, right?

[Anonymous]

I love it when people talk about living in north Arlington for Many years...
Yes. You’ve enjoyed that fruits of enteral racism, red lining, and suppression for many years.
I know you pine for the good old days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love it when people talk about living in north Arlington for Many years...
Yes. You’ve enjoyed that fruits of enteral racism, red lining, and suppression for many years.
I know you pine for the good old days.

It really is sad isn't it? Someone in SA suggests that a school that is no more than 40 percent poor might not be such a bad idea - for anyone, especially poor kids --and gets attacked by some pearl clutching 1 percenter who cries "social engineering". As if social engineering that you describe isnt what got us where we are today. The anger and the fear, the entitlement. That's what the common good is up against.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it when people talk about living in north Arlington for Many years...
Yes. You’ve enjoyed that fruits of enteral racism, red lining, and suppression for many years.
I know you pine for the good old days.

It really is sad isn't it? Someone in SA suggests that a school that is no more than 40 percent poor might not be such a bad idea - for anyone, especially poor kids --and gets attacked by some pearl clutching 1 percenter who cries "social engineering". As if social engineering that you describe isnt what got us where we are today. The anger and the fear, the entitlement. That's what the common good is up against.

So run for SB on that platform or StFU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it when people talk about living in north Arlington for Many years...
Yes. You’ve enjoyed that fruits of enteral racism, red lining, and suppression for many years.
I know you pine for the good old days.

It really is sad isn't it? Someone in SA suggests that a school that is no more than 40 percent poor might not be such a bad idea - for anyone, especially poor kids --and gets attacked by some pearl clutching 1 percenter who cries "social engineering". As if social engineering that you describe isnt what got us where we are today. The anger and the fear, the entitlement. That's what the common good is up against.

So run for SB on that platform or StFU.

Someone did and they couldn’t make it past the democratic caucus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it when people talk about living in north Arlington for Many years...
Yes. You’ve enjoyed that fruits of enteral racism, red lining, and suppression for many years.
I know you pine for the good old days.

It really is sad isn't it? Someone in SA suggests that a school that is no more than 40 percent poor might not be such a bad idea - for anyone, especially poor kids --and gets attacked by some pearl clutching 1 percenter who cries "social engineering". As if social engineering that you describe isnt what got us where we are today. The anger and the fear, the entitlement. That's what the common good is up against.

If your family could afford to live in NA, you wouldn’t care about these things. No school, no teacher, no rational person wants poors as neighbors let aline in their schools. These FARMS have “poor” qualities, such as indolence and a propensity for violent crime. They also are not smart. Some MC parents who have been priced out of NA are — for the first time in their lives — feigning interest in the poors. But that is solely in order to get their precious snowflakes into NA schools. It’s revolting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it when people talk about living in north Arlington for Many years...
Yes. You’ve enjoyed that fruits of enteral racism, red lining, and suppression for many years.
I know you pine for the good old days.

It really is sad isn't it? Someone in SA suggests that a school that is no more than 40 percent poor might not be such a bad idea - for anyone, especially poor kids --and gets attacked by some pearl clutching 1 percenter who cries "social engineering". As if social engineering that you describe isnt what got us where we are today. The anger and the fear, the entitlement. That's what the common good is up against.

If your family could afford to live in NA, you wouldn’t care about these things. No school, no teacher, no rational person wants poors as neighbors let aline in their schools. These FARMS have “poor” qualities, such as indolence and a propensity for violent crime. They also are not smart. Some MC parents who have been priced out of NA are — for the first time in their lives — feigning interest in the poors. But that is solely in order to get their precious snowflakes into NA schools. It’s revolting.

There is something revolting here ^... this trolling lacks depth, but I will give it four stars for consistency and irony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it when people talk about living in north Arlington for Many years...
Yes. You’ve enjoyed that fruits of enteral racism, red lining, and suppression for many years.
I know you pine for the good old days.

It really is sad isn't it? Someone in SA suggests that a school that is no more than 40 percent poor might not be such a bad idea - for anyone, especially poor kids --and gets attacked by some pearl clutching 1 percenter who cries "social engineering". As if social engineering that you describe isnt what got us where we are today. The anger and the fear, the entitlement. That's what the common good is up against.

So run for SB on that platform or StFU.

Someone did and they couldn’t make it past the democratic caucus.

The Arlington county Dem establishment is a big part of the problem. Major groupthink on affordable housing and big showy projects. There’s an appetite for some independent candidates that aren’t Audrey Clement, John vihstadt showed that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it when people talk about living in north Arlington for Many years...
Yes. You’ve enjoyed that fruits of enteral racism, red lining, and suppression for many years.
I know you pine for the good old days.

It really is sad isn't it? Someone in SA suggests that a school that is no more than 40 percent poor might not be such a bad idea - for anyone, especially poor kids --and gets attacked by some pearl clutching 1 percenter who cries "social engineering". As if social engineering that you describe isnt what got us where we are today. The anger and the fear, the entitlement. That's what the common good is up against.

So run for SB on that platform or StFU.

Someone did and they couldn’t make it past the democratic caucus.

The Arlington county Dem establishment is a big part of the problem. Major groupthink on affordable housing and big showy projects. There’s an appetite for some independent candidates that aren’t Audrey Clement, John vihstadt showed that.

So basically nobody really cares how high the F&RL and ELL populations are at your school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20 years ago this conflict didnt exist. As the area got wealthier some umc moved to SA to save a few bucks knowing that the achools suck.Those are the people causing these issues and stirring up people. No one feels guilty in NA and its not our fault that you made the decision that you did. Dont try to get schools equivalent to those in NA housing price point. You get what you pay for.

It's a public education, so we pay the same and are supposed to get the same. You're hoarding resources by resisting boundary changes. It is your fault. Not everyone can afford to live in north Arlington and there aren't enough houses anyway.

Shame on you for choosing poorly while paying the "same".

I shoulda chosen to be rich, you're right

You are rich. You paid the "same".

Dp- catch 22. They get the “good” north arlignton schools, but they also get people
Like you for neighbors. It’s hard to know if the it’s worth the sacrifice, ya know?

I would rather be neighbors with the NA person than the person who thinks they deserve a Lexus when all they can afford is a Civic. You get what you pay for SA.

No one is asking for "a Lexus". I don't want my kid to go to a school where 95% of the student body is white, Asian or both. All I want is a school that is say, 20-40% disadvantaged. That's not even a Civic. It's a like a 1998 Saturn. That's too much to ask in Arlington County? I don't want a thing from NA except to stop electing childless boomers who don't care about anything except parting each other's backs for building more and more affordable housing

What the hell are you talking about? For years now (oldest in early elementary school), our family has been watching in horror as the SB and CB make really stupid decisions at the expense of all APS students. We voted in the last CB election to see the same old Democrats who support affordable housing over the other candidate who listed schools first (came in dead last by the say). Most of Arlington voters have no kids, and it's the elderly population who already got theirs who continue to support everything else but more land for schools in Arlington.