Racial issues in DCPS for mixed race kids

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I think SOME AAs have been a part of the problem for biracial children in perpertuating the one drop rule. I think MANY AAs become extremely upset when this unoften discussed matter is brought out in the open. I think MANY AAs feel slighted by biracials who identify as biracial as opposed to solely AA. I think the solution is for biracial to choose their own race as opposed to anyone (black or white) making that choice for them. I think some AAs will be upset by this and make that difficult. I believe this also happens in white communities, which is why I believe biracial children should not live in communities that made my life difficult, which was majority AA communities. You hear all of the time about biracial kids not being accepted in white communities. But, the truth is that is also a problem in black communities.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd recommend looking into Eaton. It has a lot of diversity, both racially & socio-economically, & very strong academics. We are a biracial family & have found it to be a warm, welcoming & inclusive environment.

I agree with this. As a mixed race family, the first thing I would look at, considering any school, is the demographic profile. No way I would send my kids to predominantly black school. Eaton's demographics mirror as closely as we would like to find for our family. If you look at DCPS you can compare school profile pages easily. If you do want a demographic profile that is not 80%+ white don't even bother looking at Janney, Key, Lafayette, Murch, or Mann.

Are you mixed raced? So whats the difference between a majority black school and a majority white one? Are black people an evil group of people or something? My goodness the racism and ignorance directed toward blacks in this thread is an eye opener. I'm not mad though I like hearing what "others" really think about my race no matter how ignorant. It lets me and my family know what the read deal is

+1000 This thread is so racist it's shocked.

I'm biracial, before you all start posting that I don't understand, and I'm appalled by the blanket statements by mother's of biracial children in this thread. I'm hoping and praying that the children are less prejudiced than their parents.

Could you explain what's so racist? I think people are getting upset that AAs are being criticized. That's not racist. The comments are directed at AAs who take it upon themselves to force racial identity on children. Certainly, white people have been guilty of this. AAs are too and deserve being called out. Perhaps the behavior will change, perhaps it won't. Until then biracial children are better off in diverse areas where they self-identification may be respected. In all black enclaves it's typical that the "one drop" rule will be acknowledged as valid. This disgusting racist viewpoint has no place in our society. And biracial kids don't deserve to be subjected to it.

And who CREATED that view point? Def not African Americans...blacks accepted "mixed" people into their community because they faced the same hardships and discrimination as fully black people. Had blacks turned their backs on mixed raced people you all would be whining about that. Blacks accepting bi racial people has nothing to do with some silly stupid notion of "keeping our numbers up"...thats something white racist worry about, that has never been an issue or discussion in the black community. Its almost laughable that Bi racial people actual think that. I know plenty of Bi racial kids who grew up in black enclaves and none has the mental issues or anger towards AA like the bi racial people posting in this thread. Its clear you dont like AA period, it has nothing to do with some one drop rule or your experience with AA...because I seriously doubt you have EVER lived around AA...I'm 100 percent positive you grew up mostly around whites which is where your anger, hatred, and rage towards AA comes from

Oh super -- now you're generalizing! Every biracial person you know had a super positive experience therefore everyone else is delusional! And everyone nows the one-drop rule is the creation of white supremacists but that doesn't mean that SOME black people haven't internalized it and perpetuated it in their treatment of biracial people.

My point is those people in this thread Attacking AA have no experience growing up with them, they are BIGOTS hiding behind a bi racial excuse. They dont like blacks REGARDLESS...its super annoying that they dont just come out and say it. I'm sorry black people dont go around bad mouthing and attacking biracial people. Obama didn't have this issue nor Halle, nor did Anthony G. Brown. Yes someone will say something ignorant towards you at least once in your life...but to make it seem as if cultural blacks are this angry group of people bent on attacking biracial people and trying to kidnap them into their group is LUDICROUS. There are a bunch of Biracial people with a 'white supremist" attitude

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Anonymous wrote:I think SOME AAs have been a part of the problem for biracial children in perpertuating the one drop rule. I think MANY AAs become extremely upset when this unoften discussed matter is brought out in the open. I think MANY AAs feel slighted by biracials who identify as biracial as opposed to solely AA. I think the solution is for biracial to choose their own race as opposed to anyone (black or white) making that choice for them. I think some AAs will be upset by this and make that difficult. I believe this also happens in white communities, which is why I believe biracial children should not live in communities that made my life difficult, which was majority AA communities. You hear all of the time about biracial kids not being accepted in white communities. But, the truth is that is also a problem in black communities.

The only issue is, if someone like Obama, or Halle robs a liquor store...there not gonna say this biracial person committed a crime...they will identify them as BLACK, and they will be seem as a black committing a crime...thats the problem AA have.....there always identified as biracial when its something positive...but boy when its negative they are BLACK all day long. Either you take the good and the bad or dont take it at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd recommend looking into Eaton. It has a lot of diversity, both racially & socio-economically, & very strong academics. We are a biracial family & have found it to be a warm, welcoming & inclusive environment.

I agree with this. As a mixed race family, the first thing I would look at, considering any school, is the demographic profile. No way I would send my kids to predominantly black school. Eaton's demographics mirror as closely as we would like to find for our family. If you look at DCPS you can compare school profile pages easily. If you do want a demographic profile that is not 80%+ white don't even bother looking at Janney, Key, Lafayette, Murch, or Mann.

Are you mixed raced? So whats the difference between a majority black school and a majority white one? Are black people an evil group of people or something? My goodness the racism and ignorance directed toward blacks in this thread is an eye opener. I'm not mad though I like hearing what "others" really think about my race no matter how ignorant. It lets me and my family know what the read deal is

+1000 This thread is so racist it's shocked.

I'm biracial, before you all start posting that I don't understand, and I'm appalled by the blanket statements by mother's of biracial children in this thread. I'm hoping and praying that the children are less prejudiced than their parents.

Could you explain what's so racist? I think people are getting upset that AAs are being criticized. That's not racist. The comments are directed at AAs who take it upon themselves to force racial identity on children. Certainly, white people have been guilty of this. AAs are too and deserve being called out. Perhaps the behavior will change, perhaps it won't. Until then biracial children are better off in diverse areas where they self-identification may be respected. In all black enclaves it's typical that the "one drop" rule will be acknowledged as valid. This disgusting racist viewpoint has no place in our society. And biracial kids don't deserve to be subjected to it.

And who CREATED that view point? Def not African Americans...blacks accepted "mixed" people into their community because they faced the same hardships and discrimination as fully black people. Had blacks turned their backs on mixed raced people you all would be whining about that. Blacks accepting bi racial people has nothing to do with some silly stupid notion of "keeping our numbers up"...thats something white racist worry about, that has never been an issue or discussion in the black community. Its almost laughable that Bi racial people actual think that. I know plenty of Bi racial kids who grew up in black enclaves and none has the mental issues or anger towards AA like the bi racial people posting in this thread. Its clear you dont like AA period, it has nothing to do with some one drop rule or your experience with AA...because I seriously doubt you have EVER lived around AA...I'm 100 percent positive you grew up mostly around whites which is where your anger, hatred, and rage towards AA comes from

Oh super -- now you're generalizing! Every biracial person you know had a super positive experience therefore everyone else is delusional! And everyone nows the one-drop rule is the creation of white supremacists but that doesn't mean that SOME black people haven't internalized it and perpetuated it in their treatment of biracial people.

My point is those people in this thread Attacking AA have no experience growing up with them, they are BIGOTS hiding behind a bi racial excuse. They dont like blacks REGARDLESS...its super annoying that they dont just come out and say it. I'm sorry black people dont go around bad mouthing and attacking biracial people. Obama didn't have this issue nor Halle, nor did Anthony G. Brown. Yes someone will say something ignorant towards you at least once in your life...but to make it seem as if cultural blacks are this angry group of people bent on attacking biracial people and trying to kidnap them into their group is LUDICROUS. There are a bunch of Biracial people with a 'white supremist" attitude

Again with the generalizations. How on earth do you know that the biracial ppl who posted have "no experience" with AAs??? You don't. Some said they did and because you just can't phathom that they had an experience different from what you know you're calling them liars. Just stop. Also citing a bunch of famous ppl you don't know personally proves nothing. It's also a bad example in at least one respect because Halle has said in interviews that even though her mom is white she decided very early on that she would identify as a black (not biracial) woman. So the stuff that PPs have said about wanting to identify as BIRACIAL (not just Black) and facing judgment from AAs for that does not even apply to her.

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Anonymous wrote:I think SOME AAs have been a part of the problem for biracial children in perpertuating the one drop rule. I think MANY AAs become extremely upset when this unoften discussed matter is brought out in the open. I think MANY AAs feel slighted by biracials who identify as biracial as opposed to solely AA. I think the solution is for biracial to choose their own race as opposed to anyone (black or white) making that choice for them. I think some AAs will be upset by this and make that difficult. I believe this also happens in white communities, which is why I believe biracial children should not live in communities that made my life difficult, which was majority AA communities. You hear all of the time about biracial kids not being accepted in white communities. But, the truth is that is also a problem in black communities.

The only issue is, if someone like Obama, or Halle robs a liquor store...there not gonna say this biracial person committed a crime...they will identify them as BLACK, and they will be seem as a black committing a crime...thats the problem AA have.....there always identified as biracial when its something positive...but boy when its negative they are BLACK all day long. Either you take the good and the bad or dont take it at all.

I'm not sure how any of the above has anything to do with biracial children being allowed to simply be as they would choose. Society or whoever can do whatever. That has nothing to do with a biracial child identifying as biracial. If the news media or whoever deems biracial people doing wrong as black that's on the news media, not the biracial child. What needs to happen is change- the same change that allowed gays to marry, interracial couples to marry and AAs to have the same civil rights white people had. I really do think this is the next big social movement. If the culture begins to change, you won't have biracial people being defaulted to black. You'll have the media saying biracial.

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Anonymous wrote:I think SOME AAs have been a part of the problem for biracial children in perpertuating the one drop rule. I think MANY AAs become extremely upset when this unoften discussed matter is brought out in the open. I think MANY AAs feel slighted by biracials who identify as biracial as opposed to solely AA. I think the solution is for biracial to choose their own race as opposed to anyone (black or white) making that choice for them. I think some AAs will be upset by this and make that difficult. I believe this also happens in white communities, which is why I believe biracial children should not live in communities that made my life difficult, which was majority AA communities. You hear all of the time about biracial kids not being accepted in white communities. But, the truth is that is also a problem in black communities.

The only issue is, if someone like Obama, or Halle robs a liquor store...there not gonna say this biracial person committed a crime...they will identify them as BLACK, and they will be seem as a black committing a crime...thats the problem AA have.....there always identified as biracial when its something positive...but boy when its negative they are BLACK all day long. Either you take the good and the bad or dont take it at all.

That sounds like a (predominantly white) media problem so take it up with them not with biracial ppl who identify as such.

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Anonymous wrote:I think SOME AAs have been a part of the problem for biracial children in perpertuating the one drop rule. I think MANY AAs become extremely upset when this unoften discussed matter is brought out in the open. I think MANY AAs feel slighted by biracials who identify as biracial as opposed to solely AA. I think the solution is for biracial to choose their own race as opposed to anyone (black or white) making that choice for them. I think some AAs will be upset by this and make that difficult. I believe this also happens in white communities, which is why I believe biracial children should not live in communities that made my life difficult, which was majority AA communities. You hear all of the time about biracial kids not being accepted in white communities. But, the truth is that is also a problem in black communities.

The only issue is, if someone like Obama, or Halle robs a liquor store...there not gonna say this biracial person committed a crime...they will identify them as BLACK, and they will be seem as a black committing a crime...thats the problem AA have.....there always identified as biracial when its something positive...but boy when its negative they are BLACK all day long. Either you take the good and the bad or dont take it at all.

Who's the "they". Sounds like they're up to no good. Not biracial people's problem. They still need to be able to choose their own identity on their own terms. Maybe you should fight the "they" instead of the biracial's right to dignity and self-determination.

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Anonymous wrote:I think SOME AAs have been a part of the problem for biracial children in perpertuating the one drop rule. I think MANY AAs become extremely upset when this unoften discussed matter is brought out in the open. I think MANY AAs feel slighted by biracials who identify as biracial as opposed to solely AA. I think the solution is for biracial to choose their own race as opposed to anyone (black or white) making that choice for them. I think some AAs will be upset by this and make that difficult. I believe this also happens in white communities, which is why I believe biracial children should not live in communities that made my life difficult, which was majority AA communities. You hear all of the time about biracial kids not being accepted in white communities. But, the truth is that is also a problem in black communities.

The only issue is, if someone like Obama, or Halle robs a liquor store...there not gonna say this biracial person committed a crime...they will identify them as BLACK, and they will be seem as a black committing a crime...thats the problem AA have.....there always identified as biracial when its something positive...but boy when its negative they are BLACK all day long. Either you take the good and the bad or dont take it at all.

That sounds like a (predominantly white) media problem so take it up with them not with biracial ppl who identify as such.

This. It's getting tired to hearing the justification for labeling biracial children as black is because some entity (the media, AAs, white people, whoever) are doing wrong. As a result of their bad behavior, biracial children are denied the right to their heritage. How illogical and disturbing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd recommend looking into Eaton. It has a lot of diversity, both racially & socio-economically, & very strong academics. We are a biracial family & have found it to be a warm, welcoming & inclusive environment.

I agree with this. As a mixed race family, the first thing I would look at, considering any school, is the demographic profile. No way I would send my kids to predominantly black school. Eaton's demographics mirror as closely as we would like to find for our family. If you look at DCPS you can compare school profile pages easily. If you do want a demographic profile that is not 80%+ white don't even bother looking at Janney, Key, Lafayette, Murch, or Mann.

Are you mixed raced? So whats the difference between a majority black school and a majority white one? Are black people an evil group of people or something? My goodness the racism and ignorance directed toward blacks in this thread is an eye opener. I'm not mad though I like hearing what "others" really think about my race no matter how ignorant. It lets me and my family know what the read deal is

+1000 This thread is so racist it's shocked.

I'm biracial, before you all start posting that I don't understand, and I'm appalled by the blanket statements by mother's of biracial children in this thread. I'm hoping and praying that the children are less prejudiced than their parents.

Could you explain what's so racist? I think people are getting upset that AAs are being criticized. That's not racist. The comments are directed at AAs who take it upon themselves to force racial identity on children. Certainly, white people have been guilty of this. AAs are too and deserve being called out. Perhaps the behavior will change, perhaps it won't. Until then biracial children are better off in diverse areas where they self-identification may be respected. In all black enclaves it's typical that the "one drop" rule will be acknowledged as valid. This disgusting racist viewpoint has no place in our society. And biracial kids don't deserve to be subjected to it.

And who CREATED that view point? Def not African Americans...blacks accepted "mixed" people into their community because they faced the same hardships and discrimination as fully black people. Had blacks turned their backs on mixed raced people you all would be whining about that. Blacks accepting bi racial people has nothing to do with some silly stupid notion of "keeping our numbers up"...thats something white racist worry about, that has never been an issue or discussion in the black community. Its almost laughable that Bi racial people actual think that. I know plenty of Bi racial kids who grew up in black enclaves and none has the mental issues or anger towards AA like the bi racial people posting in this thread. Its clear you dont like AA period, it has nothing to do with some one drop rule or your experience with AA...because I seriously doubt you have EVER lived around AA...I'm 100 percent positive you grew up mostly around whites which is where your anger, hatred, and rage towards AA comes from

Oh super -- now you're generalizing! Every biracial person you know had a super positive experience therefore everyone else is delusional! And everyone nows the one-drop rule is the creation of white supremacists but that doesn't mean that SOME black people haven't internalized it and perpetuated it in their treatment of biracial people.

My point is those people in this thread Attacking AA have no experience growing up with them, they are BIGOTS hiding behind a bi racial excuse. They dont like blacks REGARDLESS...its super annoying that they dont just come out and say it. I'm sorry black people dont go around bad mouthing and attacking biracial people. Obama didn't have this issue nor Halle, nor did Anthony G. Brown. Yes someone will say something ignorant towards you at least once in your life...but to make it seem as if cultural blacks are this angry group of people bent on attacking biracial people and trying to kidnap them into their group is LUDICROUS. There are a bunch of Biracial people with a 'white supremist" attitude

President Obama, Halle Berry and Lt. Gov. Anthony Brown don't get much flack from black people because they publicly identify as black. If President Obama had stressed that he was biracial throughout his campaign, you would have MOST LIKELY seen a very different response from a large swath of the AA community. If you need an example, please see Tiger Woods--or anyone else who strongly states their bi/multiracialism. I'm certainly not saying that ALL AAs try to force biracial people to "just choose black." However, there is often a strong negative reaction when biracial people simply state "I'm biracial." You may be familiar with such responses as: "You must think you're better than me;" "You just don't want to be black;" "You must not have grown up around black people."

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Anonymous wrote:I'd recommend looking into Eaton. It has a lot of diversity, both racially & socio-economically, & very strong academics. We are a biracial family & have found it to be a warm, welcoming & inclusive environment.

I agree with this. As a mixed race family, the first thing I would look at, considering any school, is the demographic profile. No way I would send my kids to predominantly black school. Eaton's demographics mirror as closely as we would like to find for our family. If you look at DCPS you can compare school profile pages easily. If you do want a demographic profile that is not 80%+ white don't even bother looking at Janney, Key, Lafayette, Murch, or Mann.

Are you mixed raced? So whats the difference between a majority black school and a majority white one? Are black people an evil group of people or something? My goodness the racism and ignorance directed toward blacks in this thread is an eye opener. I'm not mad though I like hearing what "others" really think about my race no matter how ignorant. It lets me and my family know what the read deal is

Stop being so dramatic. This thread is discussing the hardships biracial children face if they choose to be labeled as biracial versus one race. There has been criticism aimed at AAs who make the self-determination of biracial children difficult. This BS about what "others" think, etc.. is over the top. What "others" think is that AAs should be a part of solution for biracial children by allowing and encouraging them to self-identify as biracial. Get a grip.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd recommend looking into Eaton. It has a lot of diversity, both racially & socio-economically, & very strong academics. We are a biracial family & have found it to be a warm, welcoming & inclusive environment.

I agree with this. As a mixed race family, the first thing I would look at, considering any school, is the demographic profile. No way I would send my kids to predominantly black school. Eaton's demographics mirror as closely as we would like to find for our family. If you look at DCPS you can compare school profile pages easily. If you do want a demographic profile that is not 80%+ white don't even bother looking at Janney, Key, Lafayette, Murch, or Mann.

Are you mixed raced? So whats the difference between a majority black school and a majority white one? Are black people an evil group of people or something? My goodness the racism and ignorance directed toward blacks in this thread is an eye opener. I'm not mad though I like hearing what "others" really think about my race no matter how ignorant. It lets me and my family know what the read deal is

My kids are mixed race. I was the poster from earlier that has 2 stepdaughters who were treated poorly when they were growing up by other blacks. I don't care to test the system by putting my children in the same situation to see if happens to them too. My husband is actually the one of us who feels more strongly about this than me.

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Anonymous wrote:I think MANY AAs feel slighted by biracials who identify as biracial as opposed to solely AA. I think the solution is for biracial to choose their own race as opposed to anyone (black or white) making that choice for them. I think some AAs will be upset by this and make that difficult.

I see how you threw in "some" and "many" but I still disagree with you. No AA people I know gives 2 shits how a biracial person chooses to identify. At most I was asked "what race are you", I answered and that was that. You are giving yourself way too much importance here thinking this is an issue for AAs. Now if you're a biracial who turns their nose up when a black person even looks at you out of fear of being perceived as one of them (how about that for a non often discussed topic?) then yeah, you probably have been on the receiving end of a lot of grief.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd recommend looking into Eaton. It has a lot of diversity, both racially & socio-economically, & very strong academics. We are a biracial family & have found it to be a warm, welcoming & inclusive environment.

I agree with this. As a mixed race family, the first thing I would look at, considering any school, is the demographic profile. No way I would send my kids to predominantly black school. Eaton's demographics mirror as closely as we would like to find for our family. If you look at DCPS you can compare school profile pages easily. If you do want a demographic profile that is not 80%+ white don't even bother looking at Janney, Key, Lafayette, Murch, or Mann.

Are you mixed raced? So whats the difference between a majority black school and a majority white one? Are black people an evil group of people or something? My goodness the racism and ignorance directed toward blacks in this thread is an eye opener. I'm not mad though I like hearing what "others" really think about my race no matter how ignorant. It lets me and my family know what the read deal is

+1000 This thread is so racist it's shocked.

I'm biracial, before you all start posting that I don't understand, and I'm appalled by the blanket statements by mother's of biracial children in this thread. I'm hoping and praying that the children are less prejudiced than their parents.

Could you explain what's so racist? I think people are getting upset that AAs are being criticized. That's not racist. The comments are directed at AAs who take it upon themselves to force racial identity on children. Certainly, white people have been guilty of this. AAs are too and deserve being called out. Perhaps the behavior will change, perhaps it won't. Until then biracial children are better off in diverse areas where they self-identification may be respected. In all black enclaves it's typical that the "one drop" rule will be acknowledged as valid. This disgusting racist viewpoint has no place in our society. And biracial kids don't deserve to be subjected to it.

And who CREATED that view point? Def not African Americans...blacks accepted "mixed" people into their community because they faced the same hardships and discrimination as fully black people. Had blacks turned their backs on mixed raced people you all would be whining about that. Blacks accepting bi racial people has nothing to do with some silly stupid notion of "keeping our numbers up"...thats something white racist worry about, that has never been an issue or discussion in the black community. Its almost laughable that Bi racial people actual think that. I know plenty of Bi racial kids who grew up in black enclaves and none has the mental issues or anger towards AA like the bi racial people posting in this thread. Its clear you dont like AA period, it has nothing to do with some one drop rule or your experience with AA...because I seriously doubt you have EVER lived around AA...I'm 100 percent positive you grew up mostly around whites which is where your anger, hatred, and rage towards AA comes from

Oh super -- now you're generalizing! Every biracial person you know had a super positive experience therefore everyone else is delusional! And everyone nows the one-drop rule is the creation of white supremacists but that doesn't mean that SOME black people haven't internalized it and perpetuated it in their treatment of biracial people.

My point is those people in this thread Attacking AA have no experience growing up with them, they are BIGOTS hiding behind a bi racial excuse. They dont like blacks REGARDLESS...its super annoying that they dont just come out and say it. I'm sorry black people dont go around bad mouthing and attacking biracial people. Obama didn't have this issue nor Halle, nor did Anthony G. Brown. Yes someone will say something ignorant towards you at least once in your life...but to make it seem as if cultural blacks are this angry group of people bent on attacking biracial people and trying to kidnap them into their group is LUDICROUS. There are a bunch of Biracial people with a 'white supremist" attitude

President Obama, Halle Berry and Lt. Gov. Anthony Brown don't get much flack from black people because they publicly identify as black. If President Obama had stressed that he was biracial throughout his campaign, you would have MOST LIKELY seen a very different response from a large swath of the AA community. If you need an example, please see Tiger Woods--or anyone else who strongly states their bi/multiracialism. I'm certainly not saying that ALL AAs try to force biracial people to "just choose black." However, there is often a strong negative reaction when biracial people simply state "I'm biracial." You may be familiar with such responses as: "You must think you're better than me;" "You just don't want to be black;" "You must not have grown up around black people."

This. This. This! President Obama purposefully chose black instead of checking more than one box on the US Census for the sole purpose of not upsetting AAs. He had theopportunity to start the national conversation and he didn't I was saddened by that behavior. I hope another national figure with courage will one day get the gumption to "come out". Biraical children are waiting.