What Schools are Considered 2T?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK, so the alleged "blackface" video is from 2013 (the article from 2019 claimed it had been filmed 6 years ago).

Please check the year in the calendar and get a life.

Exactly. Any kid would be lucky to attend somewhere as resourced as Poly. That troll can’t even answer the tier where his kid goes or name a school where it’s inconceivable they’d have a racial incident. Pathetic hatred of a school and calling minors “morons”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are degrees of criticism. There is constructive, fact based criticism. Then there are those who use nasty, childish language to describe the schools, and, worse yet, parents, and even worse yet, kids who go there. That's not OK. There are a few posters here who do that. They are very obvious. Then at least one of them gets even worse and does the "who me" garbage. People just need to report and/or ignore them.

When I say something negative about a school, I am very careful with my language and always try to qualify it by noting that my comments likely do not apply to everyone there, as there are no schools that are all good or all bad.

Let's move on? Ok?

Agreed. As a parent who is doing the research, we would love to see all the feedback no matter positive or negative. However, we would appreciate some factual statements rather than some vague claims. Why don’t you like Poly? Is this due to some lower school students’ behavior? Is this due to lack of academic rigor? Is this due to their DEI curriculum?
From what we’ve seen, it is a highly selective school with less than 20% acceptance rate for lower school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

I’ve always had a favorable impression of BC. It seems like plenty of their seniors are headed to good schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We toured Grace and they spoke a lot about a 10th grade independent project that everyone does. It takes much of the year and if structured properly is a great "passion project" that looks really good on an application. It seemed like some kids treated it this way and did some interesting, meaningful work while others kind of punted on it. Which I think is Grace in a nutshell - its top kids are very strong but it has a more broad student body with some kids who are a bit less academic (though not dumb).

I think they also had parents offering internships, and some connections to NYU and Cooper Union.

Overall, it is nice that some schools facilitate these things but realistically, these are children of the privileged movers and shakers of NYC, so if the school didn't help, it still wouldn't be that hard for the kids to find something through mom, dad, a neighbor, etc.

I think the key is that whatever a kid does can be presented sincerely and not just as something an overpriced consultant told them to do for college and will be dropped like a bad habit the day they get in. If you started some charity, why did you need to start your own rather than build on an existing one (I have heard several colleges say that in some ways they would rather you go to an existing organization and make it better than start your own) - if you build a new one, will you really continue it? Highly doubtful. There are also tons of passionate violinists and fencers who are done the second it has fulfilled its purpose...

My good friend has a child at Grace (lovely child, doing well in at the school, good fit for her as a child who is very bright, kind, not particularly motivated, no intense extra curriculars, but a well rounded, well mannered girl). The passion projects are just as you describe. Some are very interesting and the students clearly put a lot of work into them and it was cool to see. Some were.... kind of funny to see in the booklet. Like, the student could have easily created this piece of artwork in one afternoon and said "this is my passion project- this drawing". They do not appear to be the sort of school that counsels out students for not putting in the effort.

Grace has a fairly wide variety of students. Which is why it is hard to classify (though it is pretty clearly a 3T). I know some super smart kids who went there and ended up at Ivy+ schools who would have thrived at TT schools. And there are kids who aren't gunning for Ivies or even close. Which has its pros and cons. Nice to not be surrounded by everyone aiming for the same schools. But in non-tracked classes, a bit annoying for academic superstars to be with slower kids. It seems like Grace is moving up in the world and particularly for 9th grade admits (which is over half of the high school) it has gotten more competitive. But as you noted, they don't counsel out so there will likely always be the other element. I don't think they are alone in being like this - it probably applies to a lot of 3Ts.

[Anonymous]

Not that it should even matter, but for those who are wondering, the Head of School, Dean of Faculty and head of admissions at Poly are all black/hispanic. So I think they have addressed any potential race issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not that it should even matter, but for those who are wondering, the Head of School, Dean of Faculty and head of admissions at Poly are all black/hispanic. So I think they have addressed any potential race issues.

LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not that it should even matter, but for those who are wondering, the Head of School, Dean of Faculty and head of admissions at Poly are all black/hispanic. So I think they have addressed any potential race issues.

LOL!

And yet, poly hater says the students are racist morons. I think he or she didn’t get in and is upset

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not that it should even matter, but for those who are wondering, the Head of School, Dean of Faculty and head of admissions at Poly are all black/hispanic. So I think they have addressed any potential race issues.

LOL!

And yet, poly hater says the students are racist morons. I think he or she didn’t get in and is upset

This wasn't me. But also, hiring a HOS who is Black is hardly a balm. Ask St Ann's - nobody's idea of the most diverse school in the world.

Poly is a fine school. So is BC. So is BFS. So is Grace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

look at the table a few posts earlier. Is my statement wrong?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

look at the table a few posts earlier. Is my statement wrong?

sorry I mean in the instagram thread. They ivy plus wasp is ten percent higher. I think if you add the next set of schools CGPS is even better.

I don’t think people really would chose between the two. Very different and far away.

My guess is CGPS is easier to get into though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

look at the table a few posts earlier. Is my statement wrong?

sorry I mean in the instagram thread. They ivy plus wasp is ten percent higher. I think if you add the next set of schools CGPS is even better.

I don’t think people really would chose between the two. Very different and far away.

My guess is CGPS is easier to get into though.

There’s so much wrong in that table it’s not worth discussing. Fraudulent numbers, arbitrary categorizations, flawed methodology.