DOJ says Yale medical school discriminated against Asian, White applicants

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

Not a bummer at all. Don’t you want all doctors to meet the same qualifications regardless of race?

Except there have been racially based admissions standards for many years, which means that some black doctors were admitted to medical school with lower qualifications. And guess what, they became the doctors that help black patients have better outcomes than their white peers who had higher MCATs.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.

Way to cope. They’re actually smarter. Some are hard working some are not. But they’re smarter on average for sure.

Not by much.

And the asian in america are a skewed population because of all the H1B and exchange students

Is this skewed as well?
https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/average-iq-by-country-2025-update/

You’ve posted that before on other threads. It doesn’t say why you think it does. It has no validity, it is garbage. The Bell Curve would be a better example but it also doesn’t say what you want it to say.

You just said a bunch of nothing, exactly what I would expect from people like you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

This can't be repeated too frequently. We NEED doctors of all races. It is critically important.

RACE MATTERS TO HEALTH OUTCOMES. How do all you "I don't see color" people react to that?

Says who?

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Anonymous wrote:You need doctors from all cultures period. It is so much easier for patients who speak Spanish to have a Hispanic doctor. It also helps because you need doctors from all communities. This included doctors from rural MAGA areas. Medical school is rough and you have to pass all the board exams to get licensed. If all these black and Hispanic doctors can pass these exams, what is the issue?? Who cares if the difference is between the 80th percentile on the MCAT vs 99% percentile? My med school was 40% Asian, that’s already way higher than the nation’s demographics.

Yes, 100%! I think that patient outcomes and patient compliance are better for some populations when the doctor has a better cultural understanding of their patients' lives.

What is the evidence on this?

I am against the racial preferences generally but there is research showing higher compliance rates among black populations in particular when their doctor is black.

If you are showing up in the emergency room with a dangling limb or a heart attack, do you really care whether the doctor is black? Or you have late stage cancer? Does the oncologist's race matter at all?

It does not.

Racial preferences in healthcare are ridiculous. There is skill, and that's all that matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

This can't be repeated too frequently. We NEED doctors of all races. It is critically important.

RACE MATTERS TO HEALTH OUTCOMES. How do all you "I don't see color" people react to that?

They'll just continue rambling on about "merit" as if there's no way any black people could possibly have what it takes to become a physician. No, it just has to be DEI.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

Not a bummer at all. Don’t you want all doctors to meet the same qualifications regardless of race?

Who said they didn’t meet the qualifications. Your racist arse just made an assumption that the Black applicants weren’t qualified despite the original post stating that they were all SIMILARLY qualified.

DP. But they are not similarly qualified. Not even close

People like you will never believe it anyway. Medical schools should just admit every single Asian applicant and tell the black ones to go back to the fields. Is that what you want?

Not the poster you’re replying to, but we want medical school (or any college) admissions to be detached from skin colors. It’s just that simple. Too bad you’re too dumb or too racist to understand it.

The Supreme Court already gave you this three years ago. California struck down affirmative action THIRTY YEARS AGO and their universities are still getting sued by Asians who think that they're entitled to Stanford or Berkley.

You either didn’t read OP’s post or you’re too dumb to understand it. They’re still practicing racist discrimination after the ruling.

This administration's DOJ is going to say that about every school that admits a single black or brown student.

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Anonymous wrote:HYP wants the brightest Whites, Asians, Blacks, Latinos, Natives, etc. So, no, Cindy is not getting in just because she has a 1550 and a 4.0 because half the other Asian applicants are more impressive than that. Black/Latino/Native kids have historically been disadvantaged more than other races, so obviously they’re not all churning out 1580s left and right.

How do know who is the brightest? I thought it was just a sampling of the "qualified" because if you're qualified then it doesn't matter who is the best above that threshold. It can't be both.

Elite schools want people. Not robots who pump and grind 24/7 without a purpose. The essays act as the differentiators. You can be academically qualified with certain numbers but that doesn’t equal qualified personality wise.

Harvard is one of the most liberal institutions in the US. To say that the whole admissions office must be racist against Asians and deny that Asians routinely score low on personality traits is massive cope.

SCOTUS ruling in Harvard lawsuits says exactly the opposite. So who do we believe? The SCOTUS or a liberal racist liar like you?

The SFFA case doesn’t say what you think that it does. Harvard won the discrimination portion of the case. The win was held up on appeal and not argued in front of the of the Supreme Court.

No one cares about the sophistic distinction you're trying to make, even if it might have some slim basis. Harvard's (and everyone else's) admissions practices were found to be illegal under the 1964 civil rights act. That overshadows anything else.

You really need to learn before hitting a keyboard. It is a huge distinction to anyone with a brain because they were not discriminating against Asians which is what people are screaming any time that admissions is based on something other than a test.

DP. Stop repeating the lies. If there was really no discrimination, the main stream media controlled by liberals would have had a field day.

You are too stupid to be part of this conversation. Why part of ‘they won’ are you struggling with?

Harvard did not win. It lost at the Supreme Court.
Repeating “they won” after the final ruling is not an argument. It is denial.

You desperately want to believe that Harvard was found guilty of discrimination against Asians but it isn’t what happened, the opposite happened. They were found not to have deliberately discriminated against Asians.

Discrimination by Harvard was not part of the argument at the Supreme Court in SFFA. The entire argument was about whether or not using race as part of the admissions criteria in college admissions violated the 14th amendment.

The effect of the ruling is that race cannot be used as part of the admissions rubric at any college. This is a far cry from “Harvard discriminated against Asians.”

You might want to stay away from legal issues going forward.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

Not a bummer at all. Don’t you want all doctors to meet the same qualifications regardless of race?

Who said they didn’t meet the qualifications. Your racist arse just made an assumption that the Black applicants weren’t qualified despite the original post stating that they were all SIMILARLY qualified.

DP. But they are not similarly qualified. Not even close

People like you will never believe it anyway. Medical schools should just admit every single Asian applicant and tell the black ones to go back to the fields. Is that what you want?

Not the poster you’re replying to, but we want medical school (or any college) admissions to be detached from skin colors. It’s just that simple. Too bad you’re too dumb or too racist to understand it.

The Supreme Court already gave you this three years ago. California struck down affirmative action THIRTY YEARS AGO and their universities are still getting sued by Asians who think that they're entitled to Stanford or Berkley.

You either didn’t read OP’s post or you’re too dumb to understand it. They’re still practicing racist discrimination after the ruling.

This administration's DOJ is going to say that about every school that admits a single black or brown student.

They didn’t say that. You just wanted to spin it that way. They just said not to use skin color to make decisions, which is the right thing to say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

This can't be repeated too frequently. We NEED doctors of all races. It is critically important.

RACE MATTERS TO HEALTH OUTCOMES. How do all you "I don't see color" people react to that?

They'll just continue rambling on about "merit" as if there's no way any black people could possibly have what it takes to become a physician. No, it just has to be DEI.

Of course they have what it takes which is why there shouldn't need to be discrimination. Just do a lottery for everyone "qualified" right?

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Anonymous wrote:HYP wants the brightest Whites, Asians, Blacks, Latinos, Natives, etc. So, no, Cindy is not getting in just because she has a 1550 and a 4.0 because half the other Asian applicants are more impressive than that. Black/Latino/Native kids have historically been disadvantaged more than other races, so obviously they’re not all churning out 1580s left and right.

How do know who is the brightest? I thought it was just a sampling of the "qualified" because if you're qualified then it doesn't matter who is the best above that threshold. It can't be both.

Elite schools want people. Not robots who pump and grind 24/7 without a purpose. The essays act as the differentiators. You can be academically qualified with certain numbers but that doesn’t equal qualified personality wise.

Harvard is one of the most liberal institutions in the US. To say that the whole admissions office must be racist against Asians and deny that Asians routinely score low on personality traits is massive cope.

SCOTUS ruling in Harvard lawsuits says exactly the opposite. So who do we believe? The SCOTUS or a liberal racist liar like you?

The SFFA case doesn’t say what you think that it does. Harvard won the discrimination portion of the case. The win was held up on appeal and not argued in front of the of the Supreme Court.

No one cares about the sophistic distinction you're trying to make, even if it might have some slim basis. Harvard's (and everyone else's) admissions practices were found to be illegal under the 1964 civil rights act. That overshadows anything else.

You really need to learn before hitting a keyboard. It is a huge distinction to anyone with a brain because they were not discriminating against Asians which is what people are screaming any time that admissions is based on something other than a test.

DP. Stop repeating the lies. If there was really no discrimination, the main stream media controlled by liberals would have had a field day.

You are too stupid to be part of this conversation. Why part of ‘they won’ are you struggling with?

Harvard did not win. It lost at the Supreme Court.
Repeating “they won” after the final ruling is not an argument. It is denial.

You desperately want to believe that Harvard was found guilty of discrimination against Asians but it isn’t what happened, the opposite happened. They were found not to have deliberately discriminated against Asians.

Discrimination by Harvard was not part of the argument at the Supreme Court in SFFA. The entire argument was about whether or not using race as part of the admissions criteria in college admissions violated the 14th amendment.

The effect of the ruling is that race cannot be used as part of the admissions rubric at any college. This is a far cry from “Harvard discriminated against Asians.”

You might want to stay away from legal issues going forward.

Harvard was found guilty of racial discrimination. Stop lying and repeating the lies.

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Anonymous wrote:HYP wants the brightest Whites, Asians, Blacks, Latinos, Natives, etc. So, no, Cindy is not getting in just because she has a 1550 and a 4.0 because half the other Asian applicants are more impressive than that. Black/Latino/Native kids have historically been disadvantaged more than other races, so obviously they’re not all churning out 1580s left and right.

How do know who is the brightest? I thought it was just a sampling of the "qualified" because if you're qualified then it doesn't matter who is the best above that threshold. It can't be both.

Elite schools want people. Not robots who pump and grind 24/7 without a purpose. The essays act as the differentiators. You can be academically qualified with certain numbers but that doesn’t equal qualified personality wise.

Harvard is one of the most liberal institutions in the US. To say that the whole admissions office must be racist against Asians and deny that Asians routinely score low on personality traits is massive cope.

SCOTUS ruling in Harvard lawsuits says exactly the opposite. So who do we believe? The SCOTUS or a liberal racist liar like you?

The SFFA case doesn’t say what you think that it does. Harvard won the discrimination portion of the case. The win was held up on appeal and not argued in front of the of the Supreme Court.

No one cares about the sophistic distinction you're trying to make, even if it might have some slim basis. Harvard's (and everyone else's) admissions practices were found to be illegal under the 1964 civil rights act. That overshadows anything else.

You really need to learn before hitting a keyboard. It is a huge distinction to anyone with a brain because they were not discriminating against Asians which is what people are screaming any time that admissions is based on something other than a test.

DP. Stop repeating the lies. If there was really no discrimination, the main stream media controlled by liberals would have had a field day.

You are too stupid to be part of this conversation. Why part of ‘they won’ are you struggling with?

Harvard did not win. It lost at the Supreme Court.
Repeating “they won” after the final ruling is not an argument. It is denial.

You desperately want to believe that Harvard was found guilty of discrimination against Asians but it isn’t what happened, the opposite happened. They were found not to have deliberately discriminated against Asians.

Discrimination by Harvard was not part of the argument at the Supreme Court in SFFA. The entire argument was about whether or not using race as part of the admissions criteria in college admissions violated the 14th amendment.

The effect of the ruling is that race cannot be used as part of the admissions rubric at any college. This is a far cry from “Harvard discriminated against Asians.”

You might want to stay away from legal issues going forward.

Harvard was found guilty of racial discrimination. Stop lying and repeating the lies.

The copium, and stupidity runs strong in you.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

Not a bummer at all. Don’t you want all doctors to meet the same qualifications regardless of race?

Who said they didn’t meet the qualifications. Your racist arse just made an assumption that the Black applicants weren’t qualified despite the original post stating that they were all SIMILARLY qualified.

DP. But they are not similarly qualified. Not even close

People like you will never believe it anyway. Medical schools should just admit every single Asian applicant and tell the black ones to go back to the fields. Is that what you want?

Not the poster you’re replying to, but we want medical school (or any college) admissions to be detached from skin colors. It’s just that simple. Too bad you’re too dumb or too racist to understand it.

The Supreme Court already gave you this three years ago. California struck down affirmative action THIRTY YEARS AGO and their universities are still getting sued by Asians who think that they're entitled to Stanford or Berkley.

You either didn’t read OP’s post or you’re too dumb to understand it. They’re still practicing racist discrimination after the ruling.

This administration's DOJ is going to say that about every school that admits a single black or brown student.

They didn’t say that. You just wanted to spin it that way. They just said not to use skin color to make decisions, which is the right thing to say.

So when you're in the ER and you tell them you only want an Asian doctor because the black ones are all DEI hires, is that not using skin color to make a decision?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:HYP wants the brightest Whites, Asians, Blacks, Latinos, Natives, etc. So, no, Cindy is not getting in just because she has a 1550 and a 4.0 because half the other Asian applicants are more impressive than that. Black/Latino/Native kids have historically been disadvantaged more than other races, so obviously they’re not all churning out 1580s left and right.

How do know who is the brightest? I thought it was just a sampling of the "qualified" because if you're qualified then it doesn't matter who is the best above that threshold. It can't be both.

Elite schools want people. Not robots who pump and grind 24/7 without a purpose. The essays act as the differentiators. You can be academically qualified with certain numbers but that doesn’t equal qualified personality wise.

Harvard is one of the most liberal institutions in the US. To say that the whole admissions office must be racist against Asians and deny that Asians routinely score low on personality traits is massive cope.

SCOTUS ruling in Harvard lawsuits says exactly the opposite. So who do we believe? The SCOTUS or a liberal racist liar like you?

The SFFA case doesn’t say what you think that it does. Harvard won the discrimination portion of the case. The win was held up on appeal and not argued in front of the of the Supreme Court.

No one cares about the sophistic distinction you're trying to make, even if it might have some slim basis. Harvard's (and everyone else's) admissions practices were found to be illegal under the 1964 civil rights act. That overshadows anything else.

You really need to learn before hitting a keyboard. It is a huge distinction to anyone with a brain because they were not discriminating against Asians which is what people are screaming any time that admissions is based on something other than a test.

DP. Stop repeating the lies. If there was really no discrimination, the main stream media controlled by liberals would have had a field day.

You are too stupid to be part of this conversation. Why part of ‘they won’ are you struggling with?

Harvard did not win. It lost at the Supreme Court.
Repeating “they won” after the final ruling is not an argument. It is denial.

You desperately want to believe that Harvard was found guilty of discrimination against Asians but it isn’t what happened, the opposite happened. They were found not to have deliberately discriminated against Asians.

Discrimination by Harvard was not part of the argument at the Supreme Court in SFFA. The entire argument was about whether or not using race as part of the admissions criteria in college admissions violated the 14th amendment.

The effect of the ruling is that race cannot be used as part of the admissions rubric at any college. This is a far cry from “Harvard discriminated against Asians.”

You might want to stay away from legal issues going forward.

Harvard was found guilty of racial discrimination. Stop lying and repeating the lies.

The copium, and stupidity runs strong in you.

It’s obvious who is stupid and stubborn. It’s you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

Not a bummer at all. Don’t you want all doctors to meet the same qualifications regardless of race?

Who said they didn’t meet the qualifications. Your racist arse just made an assumption that the Black applicants weren’t qualified despite the original post stating that they were all SIMILARLY qualified.

DP. But they are not similarly qualified. Not even close

People like you will never believe it anyway. Medical schools should just admit every single Asian applicant and tell the black ones to go back to the fields. Is that what you want?

Not the poster you’re replying to, but we want medical school (or any college) admissions to be detached from skin colors. It’s just that simple. Too bad you’re too dumb or too racist to understand it.

The Supreme Court already gave you this three years ago. California struck down affirmative action THIRTY YEARS AGO and their universities are still getting sued by Asians who think that they're entitled to Stanford or Berkley.

You either didn’t read OP’s post or you’re too dumb to understand it. They’re still practicing racist discrimination after the ruling.

This administration's DOJ is going to say that about every school that admits a single black or brown student.

They didn’t say that. You just wanted to spin it that way. They just said not to use skin color to make decisions, which is the right thing to say.

So when you're in the ER and you tell them you only want an Asian doctor because the black ones are all DEI hires, is that not using skin color to make a decision?

When did I say that? Or you’re trying to put words into my mouth?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

Not a bummer at all. Don’t you want all doctors to meet the same qualifications regardless of race?

Who said they didn’t meet the qualifications. Your racist arse just made an assumption that the Black applicants weren’t qualified despite the original post stating that they were all SIMILARLY qualified.

DP. But they are not similarly qualified. Not even close

People like you will never believe it anyway. Medical schools should just admit every single Asian applicant and tell the black ones to go back to the fields. Is that what you want?

Not the poster you’re replying to, but we want medical school (or any college) admissions to be detached from skin colors. It’s just that simple. Too bad you’re too dumb or too racist to understand it.

The Supreme Court already gave you this three years ago. California struck down affirmative action THIRTY YEARS AGO and their universities are still getting sued by Asians who think that they're entitled to Stanford or Berkley.

You either didn’t read OP’s post or you’re too dumb to understand it. They’re still practicing racist discrimination after the ruling.

This administration's DOJ is going to say that about every school that admits a single black or brown student.

They didn’t say that. You just wanted to spin it that way. They just said not to use skin color to make decisions, which is the right thing to say.

So when you're in the ER and you tell them you only want an Asian doctor because the black ones are all DEI hires, is that not using skin color to make a decision?

Everyone, but you, knows that you get what you get in the ER.