Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:When tragedies go viral it always underscores the fact that backwater local law enforcement are all worthless morons stealing six figure compensations and driving around in $80,000 Chevy Tahoes. The only crimes they ever “solve” are Walmart shoplifters.

They truly are absolutely useless

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Anonymous wrote:It is being reported that she had a doorbell camera that had been removed.

Is there any way to tap into anything it caught before it was removed?

You would think. And her iPhone was left at the home, so they could access any recordings. But it would depend on if there is any access to the doorbell where someone wouldn't be seen. We have one, and there is a blind spot if someone came through the neighbor's yard then reached their arm around the wall and yanked it off.

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Anonymous wrote:It is being reported that she had a doorbell camera that had been removed.

Is there any way to tap into anything it caught before it was removed?

You would think. And her iPhone was left at the home, so they could access any recordings. But it would depend on if there is any access to the doorbell where someone wouldn't be seen. We have one, and there is a blind spot if someone came through the neighbor's yard then reached their arm around the wall and yanked it off.

I wonder where the forced entry happened (maybe back or side door, or a window)? A front door camera isn’t going to be of much use in that case as it would be easy enough to avoid in various ways. Some would have other outdoor cameras (especially at the pool/backyard area) but not sure if she did.

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Anonymous wrote:When tragedies go viral it always underscores the fact that backwater local law enforcement are all worthless morons stealing six figure compensations and driving around in $80,000 Chevy Tahoes. The only crimes they ever “solve” are Walmart shoplifters.

The unsolved murder was crazy when I first found out -- only half of all murders are solved and if the killer isn't someone close to you, the police basically have no leads.

This is going to sound like a mean/shallow question, but I wonder what the rate would be if we had detectives/cops who were actually very educated doing this type of work.

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Kidnapping wealthy family members (particular mothers or grandmothers) for ransom is common in Mexico and South America.

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Anonymous wrote:It is being reported that she had a doorbell camera that had been removed.

Is there any way to tap into anything it caught before it was removed?

You would think. And her iPhone was left at the home, so they could access any recordings. But it would depend on if there is any access to the doorbell where someone wouldn't be seen. We have one, and there is a blind spot if someone came through the neighbor's yard then reached their arm around the wall and yanked it off.

I wonder where the forced entry happened (maybe back or side door, or a window)? A front door camera isn’t going to be of much use in that case as it would be easy enough to avoid in various ways. Some would have other outdoor cameras (especially at the pool/backyard area) but not sure if she did.

We are in a gated community of townhouses on a golf course (not the PP in Florida) and we installed the doorbell camera that I mentioned, then added front and back cameras on the second floor as back-up. We are younger than most of the neighbors and the only cameras here are the newer people. The more elderly residents who have been here a long time don't have cameras. I wonder if there aren't a lot of cameras in her neighborhood. Also, ours are set to not pic up cars.

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Anonymous wrote:When tragedies go viral it always underscores the fact that backwater local law enforcement are all worthless morons stealing six figure compensations and driving around in $80,000 Chevy Tahoes. The only crimes they ever “solve” are Walmart shoplifters.

The unsolved murder was crazy when I first found out -- only half of all murders are solved and if the killer isn't someone close to you, the police basically have no leads.

This is going to sound like a mean/shallow question, but I wonder what the rate would be if we had detectives/cops who were actually very educated doing this type of work.

*unsolved murder rate was crazy

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The White House just posted on X asking for the public’s help to find Nancy Guthrie.

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Anonymous wrote:Was it ICE? They kidnap people al the time.

Not 84 year old white women

Wrong. Happens frequently.

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Anonymous wrote:For those actually interested in this case vs debating elderly care:

New info indicates her pacemaker last synced with her iPhone at 2AM on Sunday. Her Apple watch was found on the charger.

A light blood trail (more indicative of what a bloody nose would produce- not massive bleeding) was found on the walkway leading from her door to the driveway.

Info from a local law enforcement source posted by reporter Michael Ruiz on X.

That narrows down the time for people to comb through their cameras.

That area is so dark at night that I’m worried that people’s cameras couldn’t catch the car image. I don’t like driving in the foothills at night because it feels like being on space mountain or something — like you’re hurtling into a dark abyss. Did anyone confirm if there is a gate for community entry? Those are usually better lighted forth security guards.

It’s such an odd crime because if it were just a revenge type crime they would have just killed her in the house. There’s no reason to take her unless they are using her for some kind of leverage—ransom or some crazy “run a story on this crazy thing to get your mom back” type thing. The whole thing suggests to me someone who is very mentally unstable and has watched too many movies/tv shows with this kind of plot line. I mean, remember how Reagan was shot because Hinckley wanted to get Jodi Foster’s attention? Some people who are really divorced from reality do really nonsensical things.

I feel so bad for Savannah and her mom and their whole family. Savannahs kids are little (and her sister may also have kids)—I’m sure they are beyond traumatized as well.

I definitely agree about driving in the Foothills at night. All darkness. The neighborhood is not gated- it is one of the older neighborhoods where most of the houses are 40-50+ years old. Seems like door cameras might’ve able to pick up headlights from a vehicle in the darkness (as there weren’t be many cars out ar that hour) but probably not details? But who knows..

Dark, not gated, fairly large home set back on lot seems vulnerable.

Yes and no. Vulnerable if someone is wanting to harm you in a targeted way? Yes. Due to the darkness and lack of traffic at night, along with the large lots- neighbors are less likely to see or hear something. However, in terms of random property crime- this home would be much much safer than a more traditionally spaced home nearly anywhere else in the Tucson area. The crime rate is extremely low.

I don’t live in Nancy’s neighborhood but in one of the (very many) Foothills neighborhoods that are nearly identical in layout & appearance. I definitely don’t feel vulnerable in any way.

PP here. Thanks for the info! I appreciate your taking the time to clarify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The White House just posted on X asking for the public’s help to find Nancy Guthrie.

That’s suspect.

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Anonymous wrote:The police likely know who and why by now. The change of cadence and tone by the main detective or sheriff doing the interviews with the media is interesting.

I wonder if there has been communication from who took her and they are not revealing that per that person’s instructions. The DC snipers played these games with police with ransom notes and communication.

If the White House is posting and DJT is usually anti-media, I’d venture there may be some type of a ransom communication out there.

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I don't know why the police are updating the general public with each detail. We don't need this level of information. I barely ever heard of Savannah Guthrie nor do I know anything about her family. I hate that we're given play by plays as if this is of any importance.

Just update us when you know what's happened - she's either dead or found. Leave the detail-giving to the family and maybe the area where it happened. Nobody on the East Coast needs this level of information.

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Anonymous wrote:The White House just posted on X asking for the public’s help to find Nancy Guthrie.

National distraction from the Epstein files.

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Anonymous wrote:The White House just posted on X asking for the public’s help to find Nancy Guthrie.

That’s suspect.

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