HS Swim - Districts this weekend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue still remains that there should be consistency across ALL the districts to have a meet of the same format. All should do timed finals or all should do prelim/finals. Not a mixture…it’s unfair.

I understand that it is disappointing, but how is it unfair? They are in different districts, thus they can do things differently. I understand that a prelim/finals meet can cause swimmers to go faster- but again how is it unfair? The swimmers are being compared against other swimmers in their district, correct?

Why should each district get to do things differently? That’s not the way districts was originally formatted.

Yes - they are being compared to other swimmers in their district for places and advancement to regionals based on place. However, they are also being compared against other swimmers in their region for regionals - eg seeding at the next meet.

Those with prelim/finals are also getting two shots at making cut times, including state cut times.

- signed a parent who’s swimmer is .06 off from a state cut time right now. An extra swim would certainly help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue still remains that there should be consistency across ALL the districts to have a meet of the same format. All should do timed finals or all should do prelim/finals. Not a mixture…it’s unfair.

That isn't how VHSL is organized. It specifically allows the schools in each district/region to do whatever they want. This goes beyond just swimming, it's across all VHSL activities.

That may be, however, VHSL doesn't say don't have common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue still remains that there should be consistency across ALL the districts to have a meet of the same format. All should do timed finals or all should do prelim/finals. Not a mixture…it’s unfair.

That isn't how VHSL is organized. It specifically allows the schools in each district/region to do whatever they want. This goes beyond just swimming, it's across all VHSL activities.

I’m not arguing that VHSL needs to be consistent. I’m arguing FCPS needs to be consistent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue still remains that there should be consistency across ALL the districts to have a meet of the same format. All should do timed finals or all should do prelim/finals. Not a mixture…it’s unfair.

That isn't how VHSL is organized. It specifically allows the schools in each district/region to do whatever they want. This goes beyond just swimming, it's across all VHSL activities.

I’m not arguing that VHSL needs to be consistent. I’m arguing FCPS needs to be consistent.

Some districts span fcps and aps.

[Anonymous]

and also acps

[Anonymous]

How did everyone swim now that it's over?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How did everyone swim now that it's over?

Over??? lol. National district started close to 6pm. We won’t be done until 10pm!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How did everyone swim now that it's over?

Over? We're going to be here another half hour at least.

[Anonymous]

is national on meet mobile? can't find it

[Anonymous]

No it never ended up in there for some reason.

Anonymous wrote:is national on meet mobile? can't find it

[Anonymous]

Can anyone explain how finals works tomorrow? The top what # of swimmers per event advance to Regionals? Do B finals get to advance as well, or only A?

[Anonymous]

Patriot District ended a little before 10, and is on meet mobile!

[Anonymous]

My kid has state cuts but I still think it’s unfair to allow some competitors to have two bites at the districts apple and others don’t:

- some kids will miss out on getting a regionals cut (and not get to go to regionals) from the first/only swim at districts
- the opposite is true for kids who make the cut, but only at finals
- kids with finals get a better seed time for regionals/state and therefore a better lane at both the follow up meets (and this can absolutely produce a better result (so better time again at regionals finals, states
- kids who end up in the first heat at regionals from their finals swim time at districts now have an additional possible way to make states
- kids who are close after prelims have a sense of less stress performing at finals for districts to try and make a cut for states versus those swimming at regionals

Of course this is not fair to the swimmers who didn’t get two chances at districts. The schools at our districts will be swimming against some schools that got these two bites at the apple next week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid has state cuts but I still think it’s unfair to allow some competitors to have two bites at the districts apple and others don’t:

- some kids will miss out on getting a regionals cut (and not get to go to regionals) from the first/only swim at districts
- the opposite is true for kids who make the cut, but only at finals
- kids with finals get a better seed time for regionals/state and therefore a better lane at both the follow up meets (and this can absolutely produce a better result (so better time again at regionals finals, states
- kids who end up in the first heat at regionals from their finals swim time at districts now have an additional possible way to make states
- kids who are close after prelims have a sense of less stress performing at finals for districts to try and make a cut for states versus those swimming at regionals

Of course this is not fair to the swimmers who didn’t get two chances at districts. The schools at our districts will be swimming against some schools that got these two bites at the apple next week.

Agree - it’s so unfair that the majority of kids are getting 2 chances to make cuts and improve their seed times, this should not be allowed. Especially for districts like National where they are already disadvantage swimming in the bad pools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid has state cuts but I still think it’s unfair to allow some competitors to have two bites at the districts apple and others don’t:

- some kids will miss out on getting a regionals cut (and not get to go to regionals) from the first/only swim at districts
- the opposite is true for kids who make the cut, but only at finals
- kids with finals get a better seed time for regionals/state and therefore a better lane at both the follow up meets (and this can absolutely produce a better result (so better time again at regionals finals, states
- kids who end up in the first heat at regionals from their finals swim time at districts now have an additional possible way to make states
- kids who are close after prelims have a sense of less stress performing at finals for districts to try and make a cut for states versus those swimming at regionals

Of course this is not fair to the swimmers who didn’t get two chances at districts. The schools at our districts will be swimming against some schools that got these two bites at the apple next week.

Agree - it’s so unfair that the majority of kids are getting 2 chances to make cuts and improve their seed times, this should not be allowed. Especially for districts like National where they are already disadvantage swimming in the bad pools.

I have a kid in National. Let’s not get too carried away about pool disadvantages. Atmosphere matters more. At the end of the day it’s the swimmer not the pool. Now this is separate from not having the benefit of prelims/finals.