Crown boundary study Option H

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.

Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school.

It does not. If we go by proximity to a high school, Travilah ES and Dufief ES should go to QO not Wootton. The homes in Travilah are 1.5 million while those in QO are 900K.

Its just the reputation of the school and Wootton will not suffer if they move to Crown. Their branding still stands. Wootton parents want it all - a new school building, and it has to be closer to home, while the rest of us pay taxes to renovate Wootton, when a new one already exists in Crown and can pull Wootton families.

They should pull in from Gaithersburg, QO and Wootton to make a NEW Wootton at Crown. I'm not familiar with the RM, Churchill, Rockville, Whitman and their proximities, but change the boundary for them too. Redistrict everyone and fill up Crown. Demolish the existing Wootton building.

Housing prices won't stand though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.

Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school.

It does not. If we go by proximity to a high school, Travilah ES and Dufief ES should go to QO not Wootton. The homes in Travilah are 1.5 million while those in QO are 900K.

Its just the reputation of the school and Wootton will not suffer if they move to Crown. Their branding still stands. Wootton parents want it all - a new school building, and it has to be closer to home, while the rest of us pay taxes to renovate Wootton, when a new one already exists in Crown and can pull Wootton families.

They should pull in from Gaithersburg, QO and Wootton to make a NEW Wootton at Crown. I'm not familiar with the RM, Churchill, Rockville, Whitman and their proximities, but change the boundary for them too. Redistrict everyone and fill up Crown. Demolish the existing Wootton building.

Housing prices won't stand though.

This is how people shop for houses. They filter by the top schools, then they scroll down and look at the proximity to the schools. Take Urbana for example there is a premium for being less than a mile from the school, but there are plenty of fabulous houses as long as you are willing to drive three miles.

So, what happens next people who would have payed 1.5 million for house next to Wooton start looking at other districts. Then house prices start going down, no one wants a run-down house far from the school. Then it's no longer economically segregated. Here they come, the FARMS kids.

So yeah, the good reputation won't last for long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.

Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school.

It does not. If we go by proximity to a high school, Travilah ES and Dufief ES should go to QO not Wootton. The homes in Travilah are 1.5 million while those in QO are 900K.

Its just the reputation of the school and Wootton will not suffer if they move to Crown. Their branding still stands. Wootton parents want it all - a new school building, and it has to be closer to home, while the rest of us pay taxes to renovate Wootton, when a new one already exists in Crown and can pull Wootton families.

They should pull in from Gaithersburg, QO and Wootton to make a NEW Wootton at Crown. I'm not familiar with the RM, Churchill, Rockville, Whitman and their proximities, but change the boundary for them too. Redistrict everyone and fill up Crown. Demolish the existing Wootton building.

Housing prices won't stand though.

I don't think it will affect the housing prices negatively. In fact, if Crown becomes Wootton along with other feeders from Gaithersburg and QO, the houses in those feeder areas will go up in prices, the new developments will be higher priced. Wootton has got a name, and moving Wootton will benefit a lot of neighborhoods making their prices go up.

Option H, along with redistricting feeder schools to all these high schools in Wootton's vicinity is the best option IMO. MCPS has a chance to diversify the schools and I hope they do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if there is a scheduled meeting to address all of these questions about option H? I feel like the board just dumped this on us last week. Bits and pieces are making their way through the rumor mill but when do we get real information?

This exactly. Only maps, no narrative. We have to wait until Taylor gives his formal recommendation to know what is being voted on!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.

Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school.

It does not. If we go by proximity to a high school, Travilah ES and Dufief ES should go to QO not Wootton. The homes in Travilah are 1.5 million while those in QO are 900K.

Its just the reputation of the school and Wootton will not suffer if they move to Crown. Their branding still stands. Wootton parents want it all - a new school building, and it has to be closer to home, while the rest of us pay taxes to renovate Wootton, when a new one already exists in Crown and can pull Wootton families.

They should pull in from Gaithersburg, QO and Wootton to make a NEW Wootton at Crown. I'm not familiar with the RM, Churchill, Rockville, Whitman and their proximities, but change the boundary for them too. Redistrict everyone and fill up Crown. Demolish the existing Wootton building.

Housing prices won't stand though.

This is how people shop for houses. They filter by the top schools, then they scroll down and look at the proximity to the schools. Take Urbana for example there is a premium for being less than a mile from the school, but there are plenty of fabulous houses as long as you are willing to drive three miles.

So, what happens next people who would have payed 1.5 million for house next to Wooton start looking at other districts. Then house prices start going down, no one wants a run-down house far from the school. Then it's no longer economically segregated. Here they come, the FARMS kids.

So yeah, the good reputation won't last for long.

What will hurt more is if Wootton is forced into Region 5.

[Anonymous]

I voted for option H today.

[Anonymous]

Did Adam Van Grack say there will be 1,000 more students go to Crown plus Wootton students? Is he serious?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.

Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school.

It does not. If we go by proximity to a high school, Travilah ES and Dufief ES should go to QO not Wootton. The homes in Travilah are 1.5 million while those in QO are 900K.

Its just the reputation of the school and Wootton will not suffer if they move to Crown. Their branding still stands. Wootton parents want it all - a new school building, and it has to be closer to home, while the rest of us pay taxes to renovate Wootton, when a new one already exists in Crown and can pull Wootton families.

They should pull in from Gaithersburg, QO and Wootton to make a NEW Wootton at Crown. I'm not familiar with the RM, Churchill, Rockville, Whitman and their proximities, but change the boundary for them too. Redistrict everyone and fill up Crown. Demolish the existing Wootton building.

Wootton parent here and I agree completely. I have been saying it ever since the county wide boundary study drama before COVID. It does not make sense to have both of those schools, we just don't have the students. I understand we did not have a choice but to build Crown or risk the land so the decision to move Wootton while also adding in more students is perfect. Wootton can sit or get demolished until they decide we have the students to justify the expense. Similar situation with Northwood and even Woodward decades ago when they opened Walter Johnson.

As a Wootton parent I know it is not what my peers want to hear but it is what makes the most sense.

[Anonymous]

Wootton Cluster:

If they redistrict these ES, it would be perfect. The parents whining about proximity will get what they want - proximity - just to a different high school

Wootton Cluster:
Cabin John (currently shared with Churchill):
Coldspring - Churchill
Stonemill - QO and Crown

Robert Frost:
Dufief - QO
Fallsmead - Churchill and Crown
Lakewood - Crown
Travilah - QO

[Anonymous]

From the current QO cluster:

Fields Rd ES - Crown
Brown Station ES - QO and Crown or Crown only

Pull in Dufief and Travilah to QO and move Fields Rd and part of Brown Station ES out to Crown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.

Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school.

It does not. If we go by proximity to a high school, Travilah ES and Dufief ES should go to QO not Wootton. The homes in Travilah are 1.5 million while those in QO are 900K.

Its just the reputation of the school and Wootton will not suffer if they move to Crown. Their branding still stands. Wootton parents want it all - a new school building, and it has to be closer to home, while the rest of us pay taxes to renovate Wootton, when a new one already exists in Crown and can pull Wootton families.

They should pull in from Gaithersburg, QO and Wootton to make a NEW Wootton at Crown. I'm not familiar with the RM, Churchill, Rockville, Whitman and their proximities, but change the boundary for them too. Redistrict everyone and fill up Crown. Demolish the existing Wootton building.

Wootton parent here and I agree completely. I have been saying it ever since the county wide boundary study drama before COVID. It does not make sense to have both of those schools, we just don't have the students. I understand we did not have a choice but to build Crown or risk the land so the decision to move Wootton while also adding in more students is perfect. Wootton can sit or get demolished until they decide we have the students to justify the expense. Similar situation with Northwood and even Woodward decades ago when they opened Walter Johnson.

As a Wootton parent I know it is not what my peers want to hear but it is what makes the most sense.

As a Wootton parent, what would you say is the consensus amongst the school community? Which option is everyone voting for? I am a future Damascus parent trying to figure out how this could impact our situation

[Anonymous]

From the current Gaithersburg HS cluster:

Rosemont ES - Crown
Summit Hall ES - Gaithersburg and Crown
Washington Grove ES - Gaithersburg and Crown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wootton Cluster:

If they redistrict these ES, it would be perfect. The parents whining about proximity will get what they want - proximity - just to a different high school

Wootton Cluster:
Cabin John (currently shared with Churchill):
Coldspring - Churchill
Stonemill - QO and Crown

Robert Frost:
Dufief - QO
Fallsmead - Churchill and Crown
Lakewood - Crown
Travilah - QO

Churchill is over capacity already, this won’t work.

[Anonymous]

When will they finalize a option?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When will they finalize a option?

Taylor finalizes his recommendation in late Jan/early Feb, and the board votes on it in late March.