Crown boundary study Option H

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

Cold Spring will probably close, and the ~300 students in that boundary could be assigned to ESs in the Churchill cluster, which are closer than many of the Wootton ESs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

Cold Spring will probably close, and the ~300 students in that boundary could be assigned to ESs in the Churchill cluster, which are closer than many of the Wootton ESs.

Louder for the people in the back...there is no room at Churchill so they'd need to go to an elementary school in the Wootton Crown cluster with space for them or go to Woottton Crown after being with a Churchill elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

Cold Spring will probably close, and the ~300 students in that boundary could be assigned to ESs in the Churchill cluster, which are closer than many of the Wootton ESs.

Louder for the people in the back...there is no room at Churchill so they'd need to go to an elementary school in the Wootton Crown cluster with space for them or go to Woottton Crown after being with a Churchill elementary school.

Split articulation happens all over the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think I missed something and the rollout of these four new options.

Last time I looked it was just A through D.

When did they release these newer options and what does each one reflect? ie H is moving Wootton to Crown and closing Wootton. What are E through G?

Additional boundary study options came out yesterday, options E-H. For Crown, this was to include the possibility that Crown turns into a holding school. So H is pretty radical.

What concerns me is that if the "Wootton to Crown" becomes the leading option, then this is it. There aren't other possibilities.

And we don't know how the proposed regional model will change. They already arbitrarily swapped Damascus and QO with no input. I could see them sneak in a swap for Wootton to Crown, from Region 4 to 5, even after the BOE votes, and call it their continuing "iterative process." AKA MCPS has no clue what they are doing and making it up as they go along without regard to the implications to real students/families/staffing/logistics-bussing/cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think I missed something and the rollout of these four new options.

Last time I looked it was just A through D.

When did they release these newer options and what does each one reflect? ie H is moving Wootton to Crown and closing Wootton. What are E through G?

Additional boundary study options came out yesterday, options E-H. For Crown, this was to include the possibility that Crown turns into a holding school. So H is pretty radical.

What concerns me is that if the "Wootton to Crown" becomes the leading option, then this is it. There aren't other possibilities.

And we don't know how the proposed regional model will change. They already arbitrarily swapped Damascus and QO with no input. I could see them sneak in a swap for Wootton to Crown, from Region 4 to 5, even after the BOE votes, and call it their continuing "iterative process." AKA MCPS has no clue what they are doing and making it up as they go along without regard to the implications to real students/families/staffing/logistics-bussing/cost.

I guess if Option H is the final selected one, MCPS won't move Wootton (the new Crown) to Region 5, as Region 4 would only have 3 HSs if that happens, while Region 5 currently has 4 HSs excluding Crown. Crown people must be quite supportive of Option H as this can isolate them away from the Gaithersburg. That's just my wild guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

So now we have Cold Spring kids being on the bus for longer period of time when they have a school right around the corner (Churchill). Also, how long will it take for MCPS to start feeding other schools from the county into Crown? To me this is more of a trap for Wotton families and unfortunately we might see some significant impact academically. Crown was build to address the Gaithersburg area schools and not Wotton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

So now we have Cold Spring kids being on the bus for longer period of time when they have a school right around the corner (Churchill). Also, how long will it take for MCPS to start feeding other schools from the county into Crown? To me this is more of a trap for Wotton families and unfortunately we might see some significant impact academically. Crown was build to address the Gaithersburg area schools and not Wotton.

Ah yes, the "Gaithersburg children are not as intelligent as Wootton children" argument from someone who can't even spell Wootton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

So now we have Cold Spring kids being on the bus for longer period of time when they have a school right around the corner (Churchill). Also, how long will it take for MCPS to start feeding other schools from the county into Crown? To me this is more of a trap for Wotton families and unfortunately we might see some significant impact academically. Crown was build to address the Gaithersburg area schools and not Wotton.

Ah yes, the "Gaithersburg children are not as intelligent as Wootton children" argument from someone who can't even spell Wootton.

AMAZING you passed the spelling test!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think I missed something and the rollout of these four new options.

Last time I looked it was just A through D.

When did they release these newer options and what does each one reflect? ie H is moving Wootton to Crown and closing Wootton. What are E through G?

Additional boundary study options came out yesterday, options E-H. For Crown, this was to include the possibility that Crown turns into a holding school. So H is pretty radical.

What concerns me is that if the "Wootton to Crown" becomes the leading option, then this is it. There aren't other possibilities.

And we don't know how the proposed regional model will change. They already arbitrarily swapped Damascus and QO with no input. I could see them sneak in a swap for Wootton to Crown, from Region 4 to 5, even after the BOE votes, and call it their continuing "iterative process." AKA MCPS has no clue what they are doing and making it up as they go along without regard to the implications to real students/families/staffing/logistics-bussing/cost.

I guess if Option H is the final selected one, MCPS won't move Wootton (the new Crown) to Region 5, as Region 4 would only have 3 HSs if that happens, while Region 5 currently has 4 HSs excluding Crown. Crown people must be quite supportive of Option H as this can isolate them away from the Gaithersburg. That's just my wild guess.

It looks like it's only half of Crown that gets included in this option. Only part of Rosemont Elem would go to Crown with the Wootton clusters.

Why is Cold Spring suddenly wanting to go to Churchill?? There isn't room at Churchill and they have never gone to Churchill...really, five extra minutes on a bus is not a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

So now we have Cold Spring kids being on the bus for longer period of time when they have a school right around the corner (Churchill). Also, how long will it take for MCPS to start feeding other schools from the county into Crown? To me this is more of a trap for Wotton families and unfortunately we might see some significant impact academically. Crown was build to address the Gaithersburg area schools and not Wotton.

I think it would be GREAT for Wootton families. The Wootton cluster remains totally intact and some other schools get added. I imagine Wootton would keep the high level course offerings it currently has. There isn't room for a ton of other schools and the increased diversity is a GOOD thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think I missed something and the rollout of these four new options.

Last time I looked it was just A through D.

When did they release these newer options and what does each one reflect? ie H is moving Wootton to Crown and closing Wootton. What are E through G?

Additional boundary study options came out yesterday, options E-H. For Crown, this was to include the possibility that Crown turns into a holding school. So H is pretty radical.

What concerns me is that if the "Wootton to Crown" becomes the leading option, then this is it. There aren't other possibilities.

And we don't know how the proposed regional model will change. They already arbitrarily swapped Damascus and QO with no input. I could see them sneak in a swap for Wootton to Crown, from Region 4 to 5, even after the BOE votes, and call it their continuing "iterative process." AKA MCPS has no clue what they are doing and making it up as they go along without regard to the implications to real students/families/staffing/logistics-bussing/cost.

I guess if Option H is the final selected one, MCPS won't move Wootton (the new Crown) to Region 5, as Region 4 would only have 3 HSs if that happens, while Region 5 currently has 4 HSs excluding Crown. Crown people must be quite supportive of Option H as this can isolate them away from the Gaithersburg. That's just my wild guess.

It looks like it's only half of Crown that gets included in this option. Only part of Rosemont Elem would go to Crown with the Wootton clusters.

Why is Cold Spring suddenly wanting to go to Churchill?? There isn't room at Churchill and they have never gone to Churchill...really, five extra minutes on a bus is not a big deal.

Well until now their high school was 2.6 miles away and no need to go into the highway. With Crown, most likely buses will use I-270 and longer commute time. Churchill is right around the corner it will reduce commute time and the need to use 270 twice a day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

So now we have Cold Spring kids being on the bus for longer period of time when they have a school right around the corner (Churchill). Also, how long will it take for MCPS to start feeding other schools from the county into Crown? To me this is more of a trap for Wotton families and unfortunately we might see some significant impact academically. Crown was build to address the Gaithersburg area schools and not Wotton.

I think it would be GREAT for Wootton families. The Wootton cluster remains totally intact and some other schools get added. I imagine Wootton would keep the high level course offerings it currently has. There isn't room for a ton of other schools and the increased diversity is a GOOD thing.

The Wootton cluster remains intact with the other options as well...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the Wootton community reaction will be to this option. On one hand, this gets them a new safe school where otherwise they are waiting at least ten years. On the other hand, yes, a big change and some busing involved. Really not very far busing though so not sure it's that big of a deal. Pulling in some Crown feeders too, so maybe that helps a bit with the Crown community complaints they wouldn't get to utilize the school. Seems to make more sense than the hybrid option G.

Because of the close distance between Wootton and Crown, there are several current Wootton elementary schools that are closer to Crown than Woottton including Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill. Lakewood is about a mile further from
Crown than Wootton, Fallsmead is about 3 miles further from Crown than Wootton. Cold Spring would have the largest increase in distance to the high school and even that is only 3.5 miles further to Crown than Wootton.

So now we have Cold Spring kids being on the bus for longer period of time when they have a school right around the corner (Churchill). Also, how long will it take for MCPS to start feeding other schools from the county into Crown? To me this is more of a trap for Wotton families and unfortunately we might see some significant impact academically. Crown was build to address the Gaithersburg area schools and not Wotton.

I think it would be GREAT for Wootton families. The Wootton cluster remains totally intact and some other schools get added. I imagine Wootton would keep the high level course offerings it currently has. There isn't room for a ton of other schools and the increased diversity is a GOOD thing.

The Wootton cluster remains intact with the other options as well...

Yes, was just saying adding other schools to the Wootton cluster is not a bad thing, as the PP was suggesting saying it would lower academic performance and this is a trap for Wootton.

[Anonymous]

H is a great option. Wootton get's a brand new school and the Crown community still gets their high school except now it's called Wootton. Also, there is no need to get on 270 to get to Crown but even if they do get on 270, it's going the opposite direction of traffic both too and from the school. I also agree this is a great way to get some diversity into Wootton.

[Anonymous]

We are currently walkers to Wootton, but I'd be ok with my kids going to Crown and having a new building. The cluster stays basically the same with the addition of some kids from Rosemont.