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Are Gaithersburg residents on another forum or website?
All the talk is about Wootton families. There have been a couple of posts mentioning it but not a lot about how Gaithersburg residents aren't getting the school they were expecting. Here's a news report with some feedback from some parents in the Gaithersburg area: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/gaithersburg-parents-upset-over-mcps-new-boundary-plans |
Most moves weren't even considered in the boundary study. Oh no RM has the magnet program. |
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Seriously? I have no doubt some Wootton families, perhaps the majority, welcome the move. But clearly not everyone. For those who are unhappy, MCPS failed them for a long time and now asks them to give up even more. Perhaps you may understand this better: a bully beat up a kid and knocked off the poor kid’s tooth. The bully then offers new dentures and expects the kid to swallow the broken tooth and shut up. At the same, some bystanders are trying to silence that poor kid claiming this is the best solution moving forward.
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How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.
Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school. |
Honestly, having grown up in the area, I thought for sure that we'd move into the Fallsmead or Rockshire neighborhoods because had a lot of happy memories there. But when shopping for homes there, kind of saw that you're really just paying for the proximity for the good schools. The homes are old, expensive and a lot of the lots are really weird, I think because there are a lot of elevation changes in that area. If the Crown school will eventually incorporate more parts of Gaithersburg, it will give more options to look at in the area and are closer to the school. So think that homeowners in the communities near the current Wootton location are justifiably concerned about the impact on their home values. They still have the elementary and middle schools going for them. But buyers can look at additional options too. |
Lotds of schools need fixed and they aren't going to increase offerings at most schools. Move on from that. |
Have you been following anything? The land was a gift to MCPS. And if they didn't build something there it would have been taken away. There are many things I fault MCPS with, but not building Crown. Its the Wootton families who are making it a big deal because more blacks and browns and poors will be part of that school. |
This. Move Wootton to Crown, move many feeders to QO and Crown and improve QO and Crown. Wootton will not suffer much because of this (other than the parents crying about mixing with the brown and black people). Wootton is not that special that they get to segregate all the Asians there. Spread them around to improve the other schools. Tiger parents will make the other schools also better. |
It does not. If we go by proximity to a high school, Travilah ES and Dufief ES should go to QO not Wootton. The homes in Travilah are 1.5 million while those in QO are 900K. Its just the reputation of the school and Wootton will not suffer if they move to Crown. Their branding still stands. Wootton parents want it all - a new school building, and it has to be closer to home, while the rest of us pay taxes to renovate Wootton, when a new one already exists in Crown and can pull Wootton families. They should pull in from Gaithersburg, QO and Wootton to make a NEW Wootton at Crown. I'm not familiar with the RM, Churchill, Rockville, Whitman and their proximities, but change the boundary for them too. Redistrict everyone and fill up Crown. Demolish the existing Wootton building. |
They may help make the test scores and ratings better but it won't help the struggling students. Here are the total enrollment numbers, enrollments for Blacks/African American and Hispanic/Latinos and their 2025 MCAP proficiency rates for the Wootton feeder schools: ------------------------------ MCPS Total enrollment: 159181 Overall FARMS Rate 42.9 Total Black/African American count: 34293 Total Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity count: 56716 MCAP Proficiency rates: ELA All 57 FARMS 35 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 34.3 Black/African American 48.3 Math All 35.7 FARMS 15.4 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 15.7 Black/African American 22.9 Looking at the feeder elementary schools for Wootton: Cold Spring Total enrollment: 362 Overall FARMS Rate 8.2 Total Black/African American count: 25 Total Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity count: 31 MCAP Proficiency rates: ELA All 84.2 FARMS 83.3 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 75 Black/African American 75 Math All 85.5 FARMS 79.2 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 90 Black/African American 47.1 Dufief Total enrollment: 276 Overall FARMS Rate 19.1 Total Black/African American count: 46 Total Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity count: 40 MCAP Proficiency rates: ELA All 57.8 FARMS 8.7 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 21.4 Black/African American 41.7 Math All 58.8 FARMS 5 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 26.7 Black/African American 33.3 Fallsmead Total enrollment: 512 Overall FARMS Rate 21.2 Total Black/African American count: 55 Total Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity count: 76 MCAP Proficiency rates: ELA All 73.9 FARMS 56.4 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 63.9 Black/African American 52.6 Math All 72.2 FARMS 53.4 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 50 Black/African American 57.9 Lakewood Total enrollment: 406 Overall FARMS Rate 21.9 Total Black/African American count: 70 Total Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity count: 48 MCAP Proficiency rates: ELA All 73.6 FARMS 42.1 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 62.5 Black/African American 50 Math All 68 FARMS 32.5 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 47.1 Black/African American 33.3 Stone Mill Total enrollment: 516 Overall FARMS Rate 15.5 Total Black/African American count: 55 Total Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity count: 65 MCAP Proficiency rates: ELA All 73.6 FARMS 58.3 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 60 Black/African American 57.1 Math All 74.1 FARMS 44.4 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 50 Black/African American 54.3 Travilah Total enrollment: 372 Overall FARMS Rate 15.5 Total Black/African American count: 35 Total Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity count: 55 MCAP Proficiency rates: ELA All 82.2 FARMS 62.5 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 73.3 Black/African American 69.6 Math All 74.7 FARMS 60.6 Hispanic/Latino of any ethnicity 68.8 Black/African American 41.7 --------------------------------- It's good that almost all of the groups at the schools are above the county averages. But look at Dufief. Dufief is middle of the pack when it comes to the FARMS rate out of those schools but barely above the county average for the ELA proficiency rates for all students. Then the FARMS, Hispanic/Latino and Black/African American subgroups have proficiency averages below the county average for the ELA test. Their FARMS student has a proficiency percentage of 5 percent compared to the county average of 15.4 percent. Same thing with Stone Mill. Stone Mill is tied for the second lowest FARMS rate in the cluster with Travilah. However for overall ELA proficiency they're tied with Lakewood (which has a higher FARMS rate at 21.9 percent and highest in the cluster), only beating out Dufief. Their subgroups for ELA isn't bad. And their math numbers aren't bad, other then their FARMS Math proficiency rates are at the bottom three. Cold Spring has great numbers but their populate of the FARMS, Hispanic/Latino Black/African American are small. So just one or two students can change the percentages a lot. And they also have the gifted program and more high performing students there. This is just to point out, that even if demographics are spread out and evenly distributed, it doesn't necessarily help struggling students. To truly help struggling students would require a more quality of education and more resources need to be devoted to make sure they are truly understanding the material. Mixing up the demographics just kind of hides them. |
Why don’t they move Magruder there? Or Damascus? Why Wootton only? |
They want to self segregate. It made sense to build Crown. Now it makes sense to give it to Wootton. |
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Did it occur to no one that maybe Wootton is considered for moving to Crown because of the 3 HSs named by Taylor as needing construction (Wootton, Magruder, Damascus), Wootton is the closest in proximity to the new building?
So not Wootton entitlement or being the loudest. Some people need to give the diatribe against Wootton/Asians a rest. |
Under option H, would Damascus move into Wootton then as a holding school? I did not see this information anywhere |
| Does anyone know if there is a scheduled meeting to address all of these questions about option H? I feel like the board just dumped this on us last week. Bits and pieces are making their way through the rumor mill but when do we get real information? |