Montgomery County - What Happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve spent a lot of time recently in Ballston and Silver Spring, and some time in McLean/Tysons and Bethesda. I don’t know the policy specifics, but Arlington clearly figured out a way to attract residential development and retail, and Fairfax has attracted large employers. In contrast, Silver Spring and Bethesda seem old and worn out and going downhill.

It's amazing how people in this thread just make stuff up. There are cranes all over the place in Silver Spring and Bethesda, and tons of new buildings that have gone up recently, and yet somehow they're "old and worn out." Are you in Nigeria? Or Macedonia?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/x-new-location-transparency-feature-questions-origins-maga-accounts-rcna245487

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve spent a lot of time recently in Ballston and Silver Spring, and some time in McLean/Tysons and Bethesda. I don’t know the policy specifics, but Arlington clearly figured out a way to attract residential development and retail, and Fairfax has attracted large employers. In contrast, Silver Spring and Bethesda seem old and worn out and going downhill.

Oh BS.

MAGA cult of stupidity is all over this thread.

Take your stupidity elsewhere.

Move to Alabama or Idaho or Oklahoma history of repukes there will fit your narrative perfectly you pedo loving shits.

Mm ok that’s a useful contribution!

As I understand it, while Arlington added multifamily units at a healthy clip in 2024, MoCo’s stalled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigration

This is a big factor, regardless of one’s personal leanings in respect to US immigration law. The county has dramatically increased its numbers of Latino immigrants.

What isn’t clear to me, however, is why MoCo is was overall more of a magnet for Latino Immigrants than Fairfax, given that they are both sanctuary counties. Any thoughts?

Because it’s Maryland.

Care to explain? The only thing I can think of is Maryland is more blue, predominantly due to demographics (smaller white population percentage).

Maryland and MoCo give more free social services and benefits to low income individuals and illegal immigrants than most jurisdictions do. Those freebies draw more of that population to the county.

Oh shut up this is not true.

The number one snap recipient is white christian. Undocumented bring billions to the economies in this country. White folks just install pedos and criminals and steal from hard working Americans.

MOCO is fine. It is MAGA idiots that are the problem.

The largest total number of virtually anything in America is white — whites are the majority. You are a literal mental midget.

Here, I’ll help you out.

SNAP recipients represent different races and/or ethnicities. White: about 37 percent; African American: 26 percent; Hispanic: 16 percent; Asian: 3 percent; and Native American: about 2 percent. (About 16 percent of participants are categorized as “race unknown.”)

Now look at the population figures, and you’ll see that white people disproportionally use less snap than their population numbers would suggest.

[Anonymous]

It's true that Moco has become very tired. A mix of NIMBY older people who are very pleased with themselves for buying their houses 30 years ago and want absolutely nothing to change. And a very large working class immigrant population that has presented a lot of challenges to up-county schools and social services.

But there is nothing in Moco to attract new businesses, young professional families, entrepreneurs, middle class folks, creative types, and all the other people that communities need to be dynamic and interesting. Moco is paralyzed by stasis.

And so we have this bifurcated county. Older homeowners below the beltway who want things to be 1994 forever. And newer immigrants north of the beltway who have their own communities, but aren't really part of the larger whole. I don't think that makes for a healthy county.

Some new rental apartments in Bethesda doesn't really change things.

[Anonymous]

Montgomery County is going downhill, expensive taxes, no museums in MoCo (except that only kid museum in bethrsda), education ranking going down, no attractions to tourists, no big business headquarters and nothing special about it. It is just all residential areas, attracts tons of illegal or first land immigrants, and education is not as good as it used to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County is going downhill, expensive taxes, no museums in MoCo (except that only kid museum in bethrsda), education ranking going down, no attractions to tourists, no big business headquarters and nothing special about it. It is just all residential areas, attracts tons of illegal or first land immigrants, and education is not as good as it used to be.

Wrong:

https://thinkmoco.com/why-moco/major-employers/

https://www.mymcmedia.org/county-high-schools-rank-among-tops-in-state-and-u-s/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County is going downhill, expensive taxes, no museums in MoCo (except that only kid museum in bethrsda), education ranking going down, no attractions to tourists, no big business headquarters and nothing special about it. It is just all residential areas, attracts tons of illegal or first land immigrants, and education is not as good as it used to be.

Are you hoping to submit these posts in support of your application to come here from Nigeria?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve spent a lot of time recently in Ballston and Silver Spring, and some time in McLean/Tysons and Bethesda. I don’t know the policy specifics, but Arlington clearly figured out a way to attract residential development and retail, and Fairfax has attracted large employers. In contrast, Silver Spring and Bethesda seem old and worn out and going downhill.

It's amazing how people in this thread just make stuff up. There are cranes all over the place in Silver Spring and Bethesda, and tons of new buildings that have gone up recently, and yet somehow they're "old and worn out." Are you in Nigeria? Or Macedonia?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/x-new-location-transparency-feature-questions-origins-maga-accounts-rcna245487

Silver Spring doesn’t have cranes all over the place. To the contrary, day by day stores and restaurants closing. Apartments in DTSS are cited by the county for rodents and infestations. I live here and have seen the steady decline over the last two decades. The county is doing NOTHING.

Bethesda is a different story but it still doesn’t compare to NoVa. A couple of streets with nice stores and restaurants. OK.

And as for the poster who said people in the area are NIMBYS - to the contrary. We welcome thoughtful development. But the county is doing nothing on that front and is instead giving handouts for developers who simply want to build and pay none of the infrastructural impact taxes. This leads to further decline of roads and schools, etc.

My kids are in MCPS schools. When they graduate in a few years I will be moving.

[Anonymous]

It's so funny that, while the people in this thread act as though Nova is some sort of paradise, the truth is actually coming out in a separate thread in the real estate forum:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1307084.page

Preview: People who live in Nova think most of it is awful.

[Anonymous]

Long time MoCo resident here with family in NoVa. Sure, NoVa isn’t perfect. But the quality of life is empirically better.

The neighborhoods are nicer, most with a decent level of retail nearby. Trash in medians and on streets, crumbling roads, you just don’t see as much of it in NoVa. Crime is lower, even in the relatively “urban areas” like Rosslyn, Tysons, Crystal City and Ballston. Springfield, Fairfax, Reston, etc may not be paradise but they’re nice, clean, and have great offerings for families not to mention restaurants and shopping.

The job market is way better than MoCo - not even comparable. Schools are comparable and in better shape (MCPS schools are literally mold filled and deteriorating across the county). And the good things about MoCo, like diversity, exist in NoVa, too. And from a state perspective, the university system in VA is miles above MD. I say this as a proud Terp.

MoCo has very few areas that are really thriving. And areas like Rockville Pike and Rio are fine but stagnating.

So yes, doesn’t make me happy, but NoVa is nicer and MoCo is on a continued trajectory of decline. I blame MoCo’s feckless county council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's so funny that, while the people in this thread act as though Nova is some sort of paradise, the truth is actually coming out in a separate thread in the real estate forum:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1307084.page

Preview: People who live in Nova think most of it is awful.

If one is comparing booty holes, the booty hole of MoCo / PG makes the booty hole of NoVa look freshly waxed and bleached.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so funny that, while the people in this thread act as though Nova is some sort of paradise, the truth is actually coming out in a separate thread in the real estate forum:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1307084.page

Preview: People who live in Nova think most of it is awful.

If one is comparing booty holes, the booty hole of MoCo / PG makes the booty hole of NoVa look freshly waxed and bleached.

You need to spend more time in the booty holes of Nova. Lots of areas that are nothing more than depressing strip malls, chain stores and restaurants, and blight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Long time MoCo resident here with family in NoVa. Sure, NoVa isn’t perfect. But the quality of life is empirically better.

The neighborhoods are nicer, most with a decent level of retail nearby. Trash in medians and on streets, crumbling roads, you just don’t see as much of it in NoVa. Crime is lower, even in the relatively “urban areas” like Rosslyn, Tysons, Crystal City and Ballston. Springfield, Fairfax, Reston, etc may not be paradise but they’re nice, clean, and have great offerings for families not to mention restaurants and shopping.

The job market is way better than MoCo - not even comparable. Schools are comparable and in better shape (MCPS schools are literally mold filled and deteriorating across the county). And the good things about MoCo, like diversity, exist in NoVa, too. And from a state perspective, the university system in VA is miles above MD. I say this as a proud Terp.

MoCo has very few areas that are really thriving. And areas like Rockville Pike and Rio are fine but stagnating.

So yes, doesn’t make me happy, but NoVa is nicer and MoCo is on a continued trajectory of decline. I blame MoCo’s feckless county council.

10 years resident of NoVa here.
You absolutely have no idea of what you're talking about here.
I doubt you even live in Montgomery county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time MoCo resident here with family in NoVa. Sure, NoVa isn’t perfect. But the quality of life is empirically better.

The neighborhoods are nicer, most with a decent level of retail nearby. Trash in medians and on streets, crumbling roads, you just don’t see as much of it in NoVa. Crime is lower, even in the relatively “urban areas” like Rosslyn, Tysons, Crystal City and Ballston. Springfield, Fairfax, Reston, etc may not be paradise but they’re nice, clean, and have great offerings for families not to mention restaurants and shopping.

The job market is way better than MoCo - not even comparable. Schools are comparable and in better shape (MCPS schools are literally mold filled and deteriorating across the county). And the good things about MoCo, like diversity, exist in NoVa, too. And from a state perspective, the university system in VA is miles above MD. I say this as a proud Terp.

MoCo has very few areas that are really thriving. And areas like Rockville Pike and Rio are fine but stagnating.

So yes, doesn’t make me happy, but NoVa is nicer and MoCo is on a continued trajectory of decline. I blame MoCo’s feckless county council.

10 years resident of NoVa here.
You absolutely have no idea of what you're talking about here.
I doubt you even live in Montgomery county.

Tell me what I got wrong about NoVa vs MoCo and be specific. Give examples. I’ll wait.

[Anonymous]

Maga is lying about MOCO ignore the idiots