Dating at gender-lopsided universities

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Anonymous wrote:I do agree with some of the conclusions here. I have both boys and girls, so you won't catch me bashing either.

My daughter would love to be "asked out" in the old-fashioned way. Dinner, coffee, whatever. She's sick of "talking to" guys.

My son is definitely a bit afraid to ask out a girl and either be shot down or shamed. He has friends who are gay and bisexual, but he admits to being confused about whether it's OK to pursue a girl who has said she's bi.

I don’t really understand sort of extreme reactions like this.

My two sons attended DCPS and while they shrugged at some of the social engineering, neither felt oppressed or overwhelmed by the messaging. Maybe in the scheme of things DCPS isn’t that crazy.

Neither has ever had an issue reading social cues and asking women out…sometimes a rejection happens but I guess they ask out normal people because there is no public shaming.

I don't think he'd get shamed, either, but HE thinks he would!

I totally agree.

The guys (thanks to social media in my opinion) think they are going to be mocked and shamed if they make a misstep.

Social media has destroyed dating relationships.

Social media, and more specifically influencers and podcasters are feeding your children crap information.

It is the female centered influencers, mostly.

I have boys, and I listen to guy focused social media, which is mostly right leaning.

Almost all of them are telling young men to get off video games, stop watching porn, exercise, get a job, go to church, learn about the world and make yourself worthy of the young women you want to be with, with a bunch of sports and things like aliens and moon landing conspiracies thrown in.


The girl social media is heavily skewed to cutting out any guy from your life who is not hard left.

Just read the Facebook posts of your adult female friends and neighbors. They say the exact same thing. I can't tell you how many times women post here and on their identifiable Facebook pages things like "I would divorce my husband if I found out he was conservative/voted for Trump."

That polarization by women is not good for dating or for society at large.

My girls do not want to date maga guys and has nothing to do with social influencers. It affects their lives and they have the right to want to date soneone closer to their ideals rather than soneone who wants five kids and a trad wife. Are you suggesting otherwise?

There are very few red hat MAGA men at top 20 colleges. Most young men are center left if you press them on issues. I don’t think politics is the problem.

Eh… they may not wear the hats, but that’s where their hearts and votes are. But it’s the same for white women, so not really a big deal.

It’s not for either…why would their hearts support idiotic policies like tariffs, cutting funding for their own colleges and other policies that completely work against their interests?

They aren’t morons like farmers who can expect a bailout when they elect someone who is destroying their livelihood.

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Anonymous wrote:“Most young men are center left if you press them on issues.”

No they aren’t. They will never tell you what they really think because they know that will provoke a boring scoldy lecture from you.

Well, yes they are. 51% of college men supported Harris. We are talking about college educated people here.

That includes much older men. In-college-now males are much more conservative

More conservative vs 2020…but still slightly democratic.

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People suck at reading stats

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Anonymous wrote:I do agree with some of the conclusions here. I have both boys and girls, so you won't catch me bashing either.

My daughter would love to be "asked out" in the old-fashioned way. Dinner, coffee, whatever. She's sick of "talking to" guys.

My son is definitely a bit afraid to ask out a girl and either be shot down or shamed. He has friends who are gay and bisexual, but he admits to being confused about whether it's OK to pursue a girl who has said she's bi.

I don’t really understand sort of extreme reactions like this.

My two sons attended DCPS and while they shrugged at some of the social engineering, neither felt oppressed or overwhelmed by the messaging. Maybe in the scheme of things DCPS isn’t that crazy.

Neither has ever had an issue reading social cues and asking women out…sometimes a rejection happens but I guess they ask out normal people because there is no public shaming.

I don't think he'd get shamed, either, but HE thinks he would!

I totally agree.

The guys (thanks to social media in my opinion) think they are going to be mocked and shamed if they make a misstep.

Social media has destroyed dating relationships.

Social media, and more specifically influencers and podcasters are feeding your children crap information.

It is the female centered influencers, mostly.

I have boys, and I listen to guy focused social media, which is mostly right leaning.

Almost all of them are telling young men to get off video games, stop watching porn, exercise, get a job, go to church, learn about the world and make yourself worthy of the young women you want to be with, with a bunch of sports and things like aliens and moon landing conspiracies thrown in.


The girl social media is heavily skewed to cutting out any guy from your life who is not hard left.

Just read the Facebook posts of your adult female friends and neighbors. They say the exact same thing. I can't tell you how many times women post here and on their identifiable Facebook pages things like "I would divorce my husband if I found out he was conservative/voted for Trump."

That polarization by women is not good for dating or for society at large.

My girls do not want to date maga guys and has nothing to do with social influencers. It affects their lives and they have the right to want to date soneone closer to their ideals rather than soneone who wants five kids and a trad wife. Are you suggesting otherwise?

There are very few red hat MAGA men at top 20 colleges. Most young men are center left if you press them on issues. I don’t think politics is the problem.

Eh… they may not wear the hats, but that’s where their hearts and votes are. But it’s the same for white women, so not really a big deal.

It’s not for either…why would their hearts support idiotic policies like tariffs, cutting funding for their own colleges and other policies that completely work against their interests?

They aren’t morons like farmers who can expect a bailout when they elect someone who is destroying their livelihood.

I think you are construing their interests too narrowly.

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Anonymous wrote:I do agree with some of the conclusions here. I have both boys and girls, so you won't catch me bashing either.

My daughter would love to be "asked out" in the old-fashioned way. Dinner, coffee, whatever. She's sick of "talking to" guys.

My son is definitely a bit afraid to ask out a girl and either be shot down or shamed. He has friends who are gay and bisexual, but he admits to being confused about whether it's OK to pursue a girl who has said she's bi.

I don’t really understand sort of extreme reactions like this.

My two sons attended DCPS and while they shrugged at some of the social engineering, neither felt oppressed or overwhelmed by the messaging. Maybe in the scheme of things DCPS isn’t that crazy.

Neither has ever had an issue reading social cues and asking women out…sometimes a rejection happens but I guess they ask out normal people because there is no public shaming.

I don't think he'd get shamed, either, but HE thinks he would!

I totally agree.

The guys (thanks to social media in my opinion) think they are going to be mocked and shamed if they make a misstep.

Social media has destroyed dating relationships.

Social media, and more specifically influencers and podcasters are feeding your children crap information.

It is the female centered influencers, mostly.

I have boys, and I listen to guy focused social media, which is mostly right leaning.

Almost all of them are telling young men to get off video games, stop watching porn, exercise, get a job, go to church, learn about the world and make yourself worthy of the young women you want to be with, with a bunch of sports and things like aliens and moon landing conspiracies thrown in.


The girl social media is heavily skewed to cutting out any guy from your life who is not hard left.

Just read the Facebook posts of your adult female friends and neighbors. They say the exact same thing. I can't tell you how many times women post here and on their identifiable Facebook pages things like "I would divorce my husband if I found out he was conservative/voted for Trump."

That polarization by women is not good for dating or for society at large.

My girls do not want to date maga guys and has nothing to do with social influencers. It affects their lives and they have the right to want to date soneone closer to their ideals rather than soneone who wants five kids and a trad wife. Are you suggesting otherwise?

There are very few red hat MAGA men at top 20 colleges. Most young men are center left if you press them on issues. I don’t think politics is the problem.

Eh… they may not wear the hats, but that’s where their hearts and votes are. But it’s the same for white women, so not really a big deal.

LOL, no. Definitely NOT at top 20 colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:College kids don’t date anymore. They hookup and have casual sex.

It was like that in the 90s also.

+1 I went to college in the 80s, and there was plenty of casual sex and hookups.

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Anonymous wrote:I do agree with some of the conclusions here. I have both boys and girls, so you won't catch me bashing either.

My daughter would love to be "asked out" in the old-fashioned way. Dinner, coffee, whatever. She's sick of "talking to" guys.

My son is definitely a bit afraid to ask out a girl and either be shot down or shamed. He has friends who are gay and bisexual, but he admits to being confused about whether it's OK to pursue a girl who has said she's bi.

I don’t really understand sort of extreme reactions like this.

My two sons attended DCPS and while they shrugged at some of the social engineering, neither felt oppressed or overwhelmed by the messaging. Maybe in the scheme of things DCPS isn’t that crazy.

Neither has ever had an issue reading social cues and asking women out…sometimes a rejection happens but I guess they ask out normal people because there is no public shaming.

I don't think he'd get shamed, either, but HE thinks he would!

I totally agree.

The guys (thanks to social media in my opinion) think they are going to be mocked and shamed if they make a misstep.

Social media has destroyed dating relationships.

Social media, and more specifically influencers and podcasters are feeding your children crap information.

It is the female centered influencers, mostly.

I have boys, and I listen to guy focused social media, which is mostly right leaning.

Almost all of them are telling young men to get off video games, stop watching porn, exercise, get a job, go to church, learn about the world and make yourself worthy of the young women you want to be with, with a bunch of sports and things like aliens and moon landing conspiracies thrown in.


The girl social media is heavily skewed to cutting out any guy from your life who is not hard left.

Just read the Facebook posts of your adult female friends and neighbors. They say the exact same thing. I can't tell you how many times women post here and on their identifiable Facebook pages things like "I would divorce my husband if I found out he was conservative/voted for Trump."

That polarization by women is not good for dating or for society at large.

My girls do not want to date maga guys and has nothing to do with social influencers. It affects their lives and they have the right to want to date soneone closer to their ideals rather than soneone who wants five kids and a trad wife. Are you suggesting otherwise?

There are very few red hat MAGA men at top 20 colleges. Most young men are center left if you press them on issues. I don’t think politics is the problem.

Eh… they may not wear the hats, but that’s where their hearts and votes are. But it’s the same for white women, so not really a big deal.

It’s not for either…why would their hearts support idiotic policies like tariffs, cutting funding for their own colleges and other policies that completely work against their interests?

They aren’t morons like farmers who can expect a bailout when they elect someone who is destroying their livelihood.

DP the white women did not vote for HRC. They voted for Trump. Go look at the data.

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Anonymous wrote:I do agree with some of the conclusions here. I have both boys and girls, so you won't catch me bashing either.

My daughter would love to be "asked out" in the old-fashioned way. Dinner, coffee, whatever. She's sick of "talking to" guys.

My son is definitely a bit afraid to ask out a girl and either be shot down or shamed. He has friends who are gay and bisexual, but he admits to being confused about whether it's OK to pursue a girl who has said she's bi.

I don’t really understand sort of extreme reactions like this.

My two sons attended DCPS and while they shrugged at some of the social engineering, neither felt oppressed or overwhelmed by the messaging. Maybe in the scheme of things DCPS isn’t that crazy.

Neither has ever had an issue reading social cues and asking women out…sometimes a rejection happens but I guess they ask out normal people because there is no public shaming.

I don't think he'd get shamed, either, but HE thinks he would!

I totally agree.

The guys (thanks to social media in my opinion) think they are going to be mocked and shamed if they make a misstep.

Social media has destroyed dating relationships.

Social media, and more specifically influencers and podcasters are feeding your children crap information.

It is the female centered influencers, mostly.

I have boys, and I listen to guy focused social media, which is mostly right leaning.

Almost all of them are telling young men to get off video games, stop watching porn, exercise, get a job, go to church, learn about the world and make yourself worthy of the young women you want to be with, with a bunch of sports and things like aliens and moon landing conspiracies thrown in.


The girl social media is heavily skewed to cutting out any guy from your life who is not hard left.

Just read the Facebook posts of your adult female friends and neighbors. They say the exact same thing. I can't tell you how many times women post here and on their identifiable Facebook pages things like "I would divorce my husband if I found out he was conservative/voted for Trump."

That polarization by women is not good for dating or for society at large.

My girls do not want to date maga guys and has nothing to do with social influencers. It affects their lives and they have the right to want to date soneone closer to their ideals rather than soneone who wants five kids and a trad wife. Are you suggesting otherwise?

+1

Pushing boys to the right is bad for dating and society.

This is bad for society in your opinion?

Get a job
Quit watching porn
Stop spending all your time on video games
Exercise
Go to church
Stop smoking pot
Become a man worthy of the women you want to date


If so, the problem is not the young men.

LOL, those things are not “pushing boys to the right”. Well maybe the church thing.

Republicans are slimy liars.

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Anonymous wrote:I do agree with some of the conclusions here. I have both boys and girls, so you won't catch me bashing either.

My daughter would love to be "asked out" in the old-fashioned way. Dinner, coffee, whatever. She's sick of "talking to" guys.

My son is definitely a bit afraid to ask out a girl and either be shot down or shamed. He has friends who are gay and bisexual, but he admits to being confused about whether it's OK to pursue a girl who has said she's bi.

I don’t really understand sort of extreme reactions like this.

My two sons attended DCPS and while they shrugged at some of the social engineering, neither felt oppressed or overwhelmed by the messaging. Maybe in the scheme of things DCPS isn’t that crazy.

Neither has ever had an issue reading social cues and asking women out…sometimes a rejection happens but I guess they ask out normal people because there is no public shaming.

I don't think he'd get shamed, either, but HE thinks he would!

I totally agree.

The guys (thanks to social media in my opinion) think they are going to be mocked and shamed if they make a misstep.

Social media has destroyed dating relationships.

Social media, and more specifically influencers and podcasters are feeding your children crap information.

It is the female centered influencers, mostly.

I have boys, and I listen to guy focused social media, which is mostly right leaning.

Almost all of them are telling young men to get off video games, stop watching porn, exercise, get a job, go to church, learn about the world and make yourself worthy of the young women you want to be with, with a bunch of sports and things like aliens and moon landing conspiracies thrown in.


The girl social media is heavily skewed to cutting out any guy from your life who is not hard left.

Just read the Facebook posts of your adult female friends and neighbors. They say the exact same thing. I can't tell you how many times women post here and on their identifiable Facebook pages things like "I would divorce my husband if I found out he was conservative/voted for Trump."

That polarization by women is not good for dating or for society at large.

My girls do not want to date maga guys and has nothing to do with social influencers. It affects their lives and they have the right to want to date soneone closer to their ideals rather than soneone who wants five kids and a trad wife. Are you suggesting otherwise?

There are very few red hat MAGA men at top 20 colleges. Most young men are center left if you press them on issues. I don’t think politics is the problem.

Eh… they may not wear the hats, but that’s where their hearts and votes are. But it’s the same for white women, so not really a big deal.

It’s not for either…why would their hearts support idiotic policies like tariffs, cutting funding for their own colleges and other policies that completely work against their interests?

They aren’t morons like farmers who can expect a bailout when they elect someone who is destroying their livelihood.

DP the white women did not vote for HRC. They voted for Trump. Go look at the data.

We are talking about college women here.

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Women who take the initiative likely will have happier outcomes than women who wait for a man to ask them out.

For all of DS's life, there has been constant messaging about sexual harassment. In his generation, some (perhaps many) men don't take the initiative for fear of being accused of sexual harassment. Some (many?) do not perceive a well defined "safe harbor" behavior that lets them ask a woman out without being accused of something.

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Anonymous wrote:You want your boys to date? Have them reject MAGA and respect women. It’s really not that hard.

Except it’s not about that. It would be nice if things were so tidy. They aren’t.

There are plenty of middle of the road boys who respect people. Who play some video games but not a ton. Who are reasonably fit. Who are in college or college bound. Normal people. Who are having trouble meeting people and can’t figure it out. Don’t turn them into the enemy.

Literally no one is doing that.

Guys who reject MAGA and do respect women may just have to work on their social skills.

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Anonymous wrote:You want your boys to date? Have them reject MAGA and respect women. It’s really not that hard.

Except it’s not about that. It would be nice if things were so tidy. They aren’t.

There are plenty of middle of the road boys who respect people. Who play some video games but not a ton. Who are reasonably fit. Who are in college or college bound. Normal people. Who are having trouble meeting people and can’t figure it out. Don’t turn them into the enemy.

They aren’t “the enemy” but they are, as a whole, violent, problematic, and toxic. They have a lot they need to figure out and own up to before they should even consider a relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:I do agree with some of the conclusions here. I have both boys and girls, so you won't catch me bashing either.

My daughter would love to be "asked out" in the old-fashioned way. Dinner, coffee, whatever. She's sick of "talking to" guys.

My son is definitely a bit afraid to ask out a girl and either be shot down or shamed. He has friends who are gay and bisexual, but he admits to being confused about whether it's OK to pursue a girl who has said she's bi.

I don’t really understand sort of extreme reactions like this.

My two sons attended DCPS and while they shrugged at some of the social engineering, neither felt oppressed or overwhelmed by the messaging. Maybe in the scheme of things DCPS isn’t that crazy.

Neither has ever had an issue reading social cues and asking women out…sometimes a rejection happens but I guess they ask out normal people because there is no public shaming.

I don't think he'd get shamed, either, but HE thinks he would!

I totally agree.

The guys (thanks to social media in my opinion) think they are going to be mocked and shamed if they make a misstep.

Social media has destroyed dating relationships.

Social media, and more specifically influencers and podcasters are feeding your children crap information.

It is the female centered influencers, mostly.

I have boys, and I listen to guy focused social media, which is mostly right leaning.

Almost all of them are telling young men to get off video games, stop watching porn, exercise, get a job, go to church, learn about the world and make yourself worthy of the young women you want to be with, with a bunch of sports and things like aliens and moon landing conspiracies thrown in.


The girl social media is heavily skewed to cutting out any guy from your life who is not hard left.

Just read the Facebook posts of your adult female friends and neighbors. They say the exact same thing. I can't tell you how many times women post here and on their identifiable Facebook pages things like "I would divorce my husband if I found out he was conservative/voted for Trump."

That polarization by women is not good for dating or for society at large.

My girls do not want to date maga guys and has nothing to do with social influencers. It affects their lives and they have the right to want to date soneone closer to their ideals rather than soneone who wants five kids and a trad wife. Are you suggesting otherwise?

There are very few red hat MAGA men at top 20 colleges. Most young men are center left if you press them on issues. I don’t think politics is the problem.

Eh… they may not wear the hats, but that’s where their hearts and votes are. But it’s the same for white women, so not really a big deal.

It’s not for either…why would their hearts support idiotic policies like tariffs, cutting funding for their own colleges and other policies that completely work against their interests?

They aren’t morons like farmers who can expect a bailout when they elect someone who is destroying their livelihood.

DP the white women did not vote for HRC. They voted for Trump. Go look at the data.

Yeah…the data shows that white college women voted for Harris.

Also, this was specifically about top 20 schools. Like 90% of the top 20 schools were 80%+ for Harris. Even Vanderbilt was like 60%+.

You can’t get to those numbers without a lot of white men and women.

[Anonymous]

There is an old literature about this. When there is a surplus of women, then hookup culture develops and women must share boyfriends.

The New Math on Campus
https://web.archive.org/web/20141222185246/http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/fashion/07campus.html?pagewanted=1&hpw

Sexual Economics, Culture, Men, and Modern Sexual Trends
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-012-9596-y

Student Bodies: Does the Sex Ratio Matter for Hooking Up and Having Sex at College?
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2329496515579763

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Lol - hooking up doesn’t mean “sharing boyfriends”.

Did you even attend college?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College kids don’t date anymore. They hookup and have casual sex.

It was like that in the 90s also.

+1 I went to college in the 80s, and there was plenty of casual sex and hookups.

As a recent college grad, hooking up with 40+ people is the norm.