Proudly harboring the undocumented

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Anonymous wrote:And you decided to post this for bum pats?.

You know how Trump loves to "own the libs?" Well, this lib loves to own the Trumpers. We're out here doing all that we can to undermine all of you fascists.

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Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.

How do you know he's not?

It would take a lot of undocumented immigrants to equal the amount of income tax fraud the Trumps (not just Donald) have committed over the years.

Well he’s illegal. And he’s being harbored by his employer. So he’s definitely not paying taxes.

He's not illegal. No one is illegal. And he's paying taxes, just not income taxes. As I've said before, he probably wouldn't owe a lot of income tax anyway. And he's not burdening the state in any way -- he doesn't claim or take advantage of any social programs or anything. He likely costs us less than the lazy "domestic" workers around here.

So you are paying him less than the wages for domestic workers in your area? How is that not a slavery? This person has no place to go so they are tight to the housing that you are providing without any freedom to leave, since you failed to legalize them.

You're talking nonsense. He was here before I was and isn't tied here at all. He's choosing to be here. And I'm paying him more than the average wage here, not less.

Correct. Your use of illegal labor may be above the average wage; however you are committing tax fraud which is defrauding the government of revenue.

You are also promoting wage suppression, unfair competition, and placing additional strain on public resources.

But it feels so good to play white savior, doesn’t it?

One more thing: I'm not committing tax fraud. I have no legal obligation to pay his taxes or any taxes on anything that I pay him. He's an independent contractor.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.

No one buys that nonsense, not even you.

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Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.

How do you know he's not?

It would take a lot of undocumented immigrants to equal the amount of income tax fraud the Trumps (not just Donald) have committed over the years.

Well he’s illegal. And he’s being harbored by his employer. So he’s definitely not paying taxes.

He's not illegal. No one is illegal. And he's paying taxes, just not income taxes. As I've said before, he probably wouldn't owe a lot of income tax anyway. And he's not burdening the state in any way -- he doesn't claim or take advantage of any social programs or anything. He likely costs us less than the lazy "domestic" workers around here.

So you are paying him less than the wages for domestic workers in your area? How is that not a slavery? This person has no place to go so they are tight to the housing that you are providing without any freedom to leave, since you failed to legalize them.

You're talking nonsense. He was here before I was and isn't tied here at all. He's choosing to be here. And I'm paying him more than the average wage here, not less.

Correct. Your use of illegal labor may be above the average wage; however you are committing tax fraud which is defrauding the government of revenue.

You are also promoting wage suppression, unfair competition, and placing additional strain on public resources.

But it feels so good to play white savior, doesn’t it?

I prefer "Salvador Blanco"

More like noblesse oblige.

What would you do with your life if you didn’t have a poor brown person nearby to rescue?

Sigh. I'm not "rescuing" anybody. I'm paying a good man good money for good work. That's all.

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Anonymous wrote:And you decided to post this for bum pats?.

You know how Trump loves to "own the libs?" Well, this lib loves to own the Trumpers. We're out here doing all that we can to undermine all of you fascists.

Except you didn’t get the head pats you were expecting did you?

So now you spend your life monitoring every minute of this thread to post a self-justification of your behaviors.

Although we all can see why. You have a lot of your identity wrapped up in your role as white savior.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

The people who harbored Anne Frank also broke the law.

Exactly. Bad laws are meant to be broken.

So, you're saying the people your illegal servants are fleeing are Nazi's? Why aren't you advocating for sanctions and war?

I don't see how you can be on good terms with people in Latin America when you think their plight is the same as Nazi repression.

No the OP is down in Latin America on vacation, good times.

OP here. I'm not equating the plight of those seeking better lives for themselves generally with the plight of those fleeing the Nazis. But I'm not begrudging them either. I don't think it's morally right to penalize them just because they weren't born here. Once they're here, following the law, and want to work I will hire them. They deserve nothing less. God Bless.

So the rest of the entire world can come here? Where does this stop? The answer is that it doesn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.

How do you know he's not?

It would take a lot of undocumented immigrants to equal the amount of income tax fraud the Trumps (not just Donald) have committed over the years.

Well he’s illegal. And he’s being harbored by his employer. So he’s definitely not paying taxes.

He's not illegal. No one is illegal. And he's paying taxes, just not income taxes. As I've said before, he probably wouldn't owe a lot of income tax anyway. And he's not burdening the state in any way -- he doesn't claim or take advantage of any social programs or anything. He likely costs us less than the lazy "domestic" workers around here.

So you are paying him less than the wages for domestic workers in your area? How is that not a slavery? This person has no place to go so they are tight to the housing that you are providing without any freedom to leave, since you failed to legalize them.

You're talking nonsense. He was here before I was and isn't tied here at all. He's choosing to be here. And I'm paying him more than the average wage here, not less.

Correct. Your use of illegal labor may be above the average wage; however you are committing tax fraud which is defrauding the government of revenue.

You are also promoting wage suppression, unfair competition, and placing additional strain on public resources.

But it feels so good to play white savior, doesn’t it?

One more thing: I'm not committing tax fraud. I have no legal obligation to pay his taxes or any taxes on anything that I pay him. He's an independent contractor.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.

No one buys that nonsense, not even you.

I sleep very well, thank you. I know I'm doing the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

The people who harbored Anne Frank also broke the law.

Exactly. Bad laws are meant to be broken.

So, you're saying the people your illegal servants are fleeing are Nazi's? Why aren't you advocating for sanctions and war?

I don't see how you can be on good terms with people in Latin America when you think their plight is the same as Nazi repression.

No the OP is down in Latin America on vacation, good times.

OP here. I'm not equating the plight of those seeking better lives for themselves generally with the plight of those fleeing the Nazis. But I'm not begrudging them either. I don't think it's morally right to penalize them just because they weren't born here. Once they're here, following the law, and want to work I will hire them. They deserve nothing less. God Bless.

So the rest of the entire world can come here? Where does this stop? The answer is that it doesn’t.

Please, facts and logic will never resonate with this OP.

Her entire identity is playing white savior to lower class brown people so she can give meaning to her life.

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Anonymous wrote:And you decided to post this for bum pats?.

You know how Trump loves to "own the libs?" Well, this lib loves to own the Trumpers. We're out here doing all that we can to undermine all of you fascists.

Except you didn’t get the head pats you were expecting did you?

So now you spend your life monitoring every minute of this thread to post a self-justification of your behaviors.

Although we all can see why. You have a lot of your identity wrapped up in your role as white savior.

Ha ha. Are you the poster who hates his own mother's family because they worked in the US undocumented? I'm not the one with "indentity issues."

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

The people who harbored Anne Frank also broke the law.

Exactly. Bad laws are meant to be broken.

So, you're saying the people your illegal servants are fleeing are Nazi's? Why aren't you advocating for sanctions and war?

I don't see how you can be on good terms with people in Latin America when you think their plight is the same as Nazi repression.

No the OP is down in Latin America on vacation, good times.

OP here. I'm not equating the plight of those seeking better lives for themselves generally with the plight of those fleeing the Nazis. But I'm not begrudging them either. I don't think it's morally right to penalize them just because they weren't born here. Once they're here, following the law, and want to work I will hire them. They deserve nothing less. God Bless.

So the rest of the entire world can come here? Where does this stop? The answer is that it doesn’t.

We have room for plenty more. The USA isn't even close to being an overly populated country.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.

I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.

He’s Definitely not pay taxes. Are you paying them?

I've said since the beginning of this thread that I assume he's not paying income taxes -- but that doesn't mean he isn't paying ANY taxes. He's paying sales taxes, etc. And, no, I'm not paying them because I have no obligation to.

As an employer, you do have obligation wither to issue 1099 to your employer, so he can pay taxes on his earnings, or to issue a W-2 form and to withhold and pay his taxes. So you are saying you violating the law?

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

The people who harbored Anne Frank also broke the law.

Exactly. Bad laws are meant to be broken.

So, you're saying the people your illegal servants are fleeing are Nazi's? Why aren't you advocating for sanctions and war?

I don't see how you can be on good terms with people in Latin America when you think their plight is the same as Nazi repression.

No the OP is down in Latin America on vacation, good times.

OP here. I'm not equating the plight of those seeking better lives for themselves generally with the plight of those fleeing the Nazis. But I'm not begrudging them either. I don't think it's morally right to penalize them just because they weren't born here. Once they're here, following the law, and want to work I will hire them. They deserve nothing less. God Bless.

So the rest of the entire world can come here? Where does this stop? The answer is that it doesn’t.

We have room for plenty more. The USA isn't even close to being an overly populated country.

Can you post your address? I have several homeless immigrants from Ukraine right now, I can sent you a few.

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Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.

How do you know he's not?

It would take a lot of undocumented immigrants to equal the amount of income tax fraud the Trumps (not just Donald) have committed over the years.

Well he’s illegal. And he’s being harbored by his employer. So he’s definitely not paying taxes.

He's not illegal. No one is illegal. And he's paying taxes, just not income taxes. As I've said before, he probably wouldn't owe a lot of income tax anyway. And he's not burdening the state in any way -- he doesn't claim or take advantage of any social programs or anything. He likely costs us less than the lazy "domestic" workers around here.

So you are paying him less than the wages for domestic workers in your area? How is that not a slavery? This person has no place to go so they are tight to the housing that you are providing without any freedom to leave, since you failed to legalize them.

You're talking nonsense. He was here before I was and isn't tied here at all. He's choosing to be here. And I'm paying him more than the average wage here, not less.

Correct. Your use of illegal labor may be above the average wage; however you are committing tax fraud which is defrauding the government of revenue.

You are also promoting wage suppression, unfair competition, and placing additional strain on public resources.

But it feels so good to play white savior, doesn’t it?

One more thing: I'm not committing tax fraud. I have no legal obligation to pay his taxes or any taxes on anything that I pay him. He's an independent contractor.

He is not an independent contractor if you are not issuing 1099 to him.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

Look, I'm a lawyer, ok? There's no way I can make the guy legal. I know it.

I AM helping him in the one way I can. I pay him well and I help to harbor him.

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Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.

How do you know he's not?

It would take a lot of undocumented immigrants to equal the amount of income tax fraud the Trumps (not just Donald) have committed over the years.

Well he’s illegal. And he’s being harbored by his employer. So he’s definitely not paying taxes.

He's not illegal. No one is illegal. And he's paying taxes, just not income taxes. As I've said before, he probably wouldn't owe a lot of income tax anyway. And he's not burdening the state in any way -- he doesn't claim or take advantage of any social programs or anything. He likely costs us less than the lazy "domestic" workers around here.

So you are paying him less than the wages for domestic workers in your area? How is that not a slavery? This person has no place to go so they are tight to the housing that you are providing without any freedom to leave, since you failed to legalize them.

You're talking nonsense. He was here before I was and isn't tied here at all. He's choosing to be here. And I'm paying him more than the average wage here, not less.

Correct. Your use of illegal labor may be above the average wage; however you are committing tax fraud which is defrauding the government of revenue.

You are also promoting wage suppression, unfair competition, and placing additional strain on public resources.

But it feels so good to play white savior, doesn’t it?

One more thing: I'm not committing tax fraud. I have no legal obligation to pay his taxes or any taxes on anything that I pay him. He's an independent contractor.

He is not an independent contractor if you are not issuing 1099 to him.

I pay him less than 2800 a year. No 1099 required.