Unvaxxed child in Texas just died of the measles

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Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.

I can get how it can be triggering for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.

Sorry man. It's pretty weird that you don't think this is newsworthy. I did read that parents are getting their older unvaccinated kids vaccinated, so I'm glad the news is reaching those who need to hear it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.

There was tons of coverage related to a large outbreak just prior to COVID, the most measles cases in recent history, related to unvaxxed Hasidic Jewish populations in NY and MD. I remember it as I work in healthcare and it was the biggest hospital concern at the time, was being able to identify and isolate a case appropriately because of how contagious it is (literally one of the most contagious diseases known of,.much more than COVID) coupled with how we knew vaccination rates were declining. Lots of news coverage back then as well, but it got overtaken by COVID.

Measles is a big deal simply because it is so contagious plus infants cannot get vaccinated until a year old. One case in a public place is dangerous for any unvaxxed/too young to vaccinate infants and immunocompromised individuals. One case in a hospital ER or pediatric hospital ER is a nightmare.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.

There was tons of coverage related to a large outbreak just prior to COVID, the most measles cases in recent history, related to unvaxxed Hasidic Jewish populations in NY and MD. I remember it as I work in healthcare and it was the biggest hospital concern at the time, was being able to identify and isolate a case appropriately because of how contagious it is (literally one of the most contagious diseases known of,.much more than COVID) coupled with how we knew vaccination rates were declining. Lots of news coverage back then as well, but it got overtaken by COVID.

Measles is a big deal simply because it is so contagious plus infants cannot get vaccinated until a year old. One case in a public place is dangerous for any unvaxxed/too young to vaccinate infants and immunocompromised individuals. One case in a hospital ER or pediatric hospital ER is a nightmare. [/quote

Double post to add, part of the concern with being able to identify and isolate measles quickly is that most doctors have not seen it nowadays unless they have worked abroad. You may have missed the retired ID doc posting in this thread who said they had not treated a case in their lifetime, thanks to the vaccine.

Will also add, folks are blaming migrants for measles cominf back. So long as we have declining MMR vaccination rates, measles will find a way in no matter if there is a completely seales border. One single case will infect 9 out of 10 nearby nonimmune via airborne transmission.

Will also add that the mortality of measles is somewhat understated in that it causes an immune amnesia such that those recently infected become more susceptible to other diseases in the near future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.

*every* person isn't needed. 95% will get us herd immunity. But sadly because of deranged anti-vaxxers, we can't get that anymore and now people are dying from measles thanks to the stupid anti vaxxers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.

Sorry man. It's pretty weird that you don't think this is newsworthy. I did read that parents are getting their older unvaccinated kids vaccinated, so I'm glad the news is reaching those who need to hear it.

Measles can also cause a pregnant woman to miscarry or for the baby to have real issues when born.

It's amazing all these "health white fetuses" are needed posters don't seem to realize measles impact on pregnant women and the unborn as well as children.

Oh, I forgot, women and children don't really matter. But think of the deformed fetuses measles will cause.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

I’m guessing we’re hearing about it because it’s a bit shocking that a parent apparently decided they would rather have a dead kid rather than an autistic one.

(Now, of course we know that they don’t actually cause autism. But imagine a parent who genuinely believes that it does making the decision that death is better than autism.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.

Preexisting conditions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.

Preexisting conditions?

Oh FFS here we go

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.
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There is something hugely different now, couldn't be more different. The Secretary of Health and Human Services of the United States , an authority figure, our guide for all matters health related, promotes not vaccinating children and has specifically targeted this vaccine. Weeks into his tenure, there has already been one death.

It is "new" to have the top health figure in the United States actively go against the peer-reviewed crystal clear scientific facts.

Why is one death newsworthy? Because the last death was in 2015. Prior to that, 2003.

In 2024, we had a total of 285 measles cases reported in the US. It is March 1, and there have already been 165.

This virus is tremendously contagious. The flu has an R naught of 1-2. The measles: 12-18. Thankfully, most people are vaccinated so we won't see a pandemic. Thankfully, we have an extremely effective weapon against this virus. Unfortunately for the woman in 2015, who was vaccinated but immunocompromised, walking in an area up to two hours after a measles patient can lead to infection.

So who is at risk besides those who choose to unvaccinate (along with their innocent children who have no choice):
1) all babies under 12-15 months
2) anyone who is immune compromised
3) anyone whose vaccine may be less effective (for example, people who were vaccinated between 1963-1967 were given an inactive measles vaccine that has proven to be less effective).

Why did RFK Jr. say it wasn't a big deal in the cabinet meeting? He is promoting his antivax position. He doesn't want you to think that things are going badly under his tenure. He, literally as you would say, does not care. We can debate the theories but the facts are crystal clear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.

Preexisting conditions?

So MAGA trash is ok killing off kids with “preexisting conditions”? Sounds very final solutiony.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.
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There is something hugely different now, couldn't be more different. The Secretary of Health and Human Services of the United States , an authority figure, our guide for all matters health related, promotes not vaccinating children and has specifically targeted this vaccine. Weeks into his tenure, there has already been one death.

It is "new" to have the top health figure in the United States actively go against the peer-reviewed crystal clear scientific facts.

Why is one death newsworthy? Because the last death was in 2015. Prior to that, 2003.

In 2024, we had a total of 285 measles cases reported in the US. It is March 1, and there have already been 165.

This virus is tremendously contagious. The flu has an R naught of 1-2. The measles: 12-18. Thankfully, most people are vaccinated so we won't see a pandemic. Thankfully, we have an extremely effective weapon against this virus. Unfortunately for the woman in 2015, who was vaccinated but immunocompromised, walking in an area up to two hours after a measles patient can lead to infection.

So who is at risk besides those who choose to unvaccinate (along with their innocent children who have no choice):
1) all babies under 12-15 months
2) anyone who is immune compromised
3) anyone whose vaccine may be less effective (for example, people who were vaccinated between 1963-1967 were given an inactive measles vaccine that has proven to be less effective).

Why did RFK Jr. say it wasn't a big deal in the cabinet meeting? He is promoting his antivax position. He doesn't want you to think that things are going badly under his tenure. He, literally as you would say, does not care. We can debate the theories but the facts are crystal clear.

On an abstract level, I agree with you that having RFK head HHS is bad for vaccines.

But this death would’ve occurred even if Harris was president. It’s not like parents were vaccinating their kids up until RFK’s confirmation hearing and then did a 180 after RFK took the reins.

Probably something like 75% of Americans don’t even know who runs HHS. These parents aren’t refusing vaccinations because of RFK (yet), they’re refusing vaccinations because of TikTok and Jenny McCarthy and because they refuse to be educated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

Co-morbidities being the big one.

Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice.

I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids."

We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas.

It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned.

That's how the news works.

Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets.
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There is something hugely different now, couldn't be more different. The Secretary of Health and Human Services of the United States , an authority figure, our guide for all matters health related, promotes not vaccinating children and has specifically targeted this vaccine. Weeks into his tenure, there has already been one death.

It is "new" to have the top health figure in the United States actively go against the peer-reviewed crystal clear scientific facts.

Why is one death newsworthy? Because the last death was in 2015. Prior to that, 2003.

In 2024, we had a total of 285 measles cases reported in the US. It is March 1, and there have already been 165.

This virus is tremendously contagious. The flu has an R naught of 1-2. The measles: 12-18. Thankfully, most people are vaccinated so we won't see a pandemic. Thankfully, we have an extremely effective weapon against this virus. Unfortunately for the woman in 2015, who was vaccinated but immunocompromised, walking in an area up to two hours after a measles patient can lead to infection.

So who is at risk besides those who choose to unvaccinate (along with their innocent children who have no choice):
1) all babies under 12-15 months
2) anyone who is immune compromised
3) anyone whose vaccine may be less effective (for example, people who were vaccinated between 1963-1967 were given an inactive measles vaccine that has proven to be less effective).

Why did RFK Jr. say it wasn't a big deal in the cabinet meeting? He is promoting his antivax position. He doesn't want you to think that things are going badly under his tenure. He, literally as you would say, does not care. We can debate the theories but the facts are crystal clear.

On an abstract level, I agree with you that having RFK head HHS is bad for vaccines.

But this death would’ve occurred even if Harris was president. It’s not like parents were vaccinating their kids up until RFK’s confirmation hearing and then did a 180 after RFK took the reins.

Probably something like 75% of Americans don’t even know who runs HHS. These parents aren’t refusing vaccinations because of RFK (yet), they’re refusing vaccinations because of TikTok and Jenny McCarthy and because they refuse to be educated.

Yes and you understand the concern that a historically antivax RFK in charge will likely add fuel to the declining MMR vax rate in the US, mostly in red states. Coupled with the most contagious disease on earth and babies that cannot be vaccinated for it until at least one year old, it just isn't great.

There was a ton in the news about the much larger outbreak of measles in 2019 (well, maybe this one will yet surpass it, time will tell). Even then, before COVID and all the COVID vaccine debate, RFK being in charge of HHS, hospitals were looking at declining MMR rates and that 2019 outbreak as a sign of a coming storm and one of their biggest concerns then (personal experience, I work in healthcare).

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.

Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.