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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?[/quote] What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.[/quote] Co-morbidities being the big one.[/quote] Measles has been studied and tracked for a very long time. This is not like Covid where we're only just figuring out what types of comorbidities might cause complications or death. It is already known which populations are at higher risk, and it is already known that measles can cause serious life-long complications and death even in healthy people. So tell me, why do you care what the child's comorbidities were? How will that impact your actions? Alllll the data is at your fingertips. Or better yet ask your doctor's advice. I hope people like you aren't thinking "this kid probably had leukemia so I really don't need to worry about my non-leukemia kids." [/quote] We can't save everyone. There is a child dying in a car accident every day, nobody cares. Nobody cares to make our suburbs less car dependent, to make it safer to get around. Nobody cares how many kids die of neglect or abuse or suicides (a LOT more than Measles). Why is this story making headlines and so many discussions? It's purely political. These outbreaks happened before and you hardly remember unless someone brings it to your retinas. [/quote] It's making headlines because there is already a known solution in place, accessible to everyone in the country. Not so for the other things you mentioned. That's how the news works. [/quote] Are you dense? There is literally nothing different now and this was the case before. No, you cannot and you will not vaccinate every single person. It's literally impossible to control. There is nothing new about this. I do not understand the degree of coverage this gets. [/quote] There was tons of coverage related to a large outbreak just prior to COVID, the most measles cases in recent history, related to unvaxxed Hasidic Jewish populations in NY and MD. I remember it as I work in healthcare and it was the biggest hospital concern at the time, was being able to identify and isolate a case appropriately because of how contagious it is (literally one of the most contagious diseases known of,.much more than COVID) coupled with how we knew vaccination rates were declining. Lots of news coverage back then as well, but it got overtaken by COVID. Measles is a big deal simply because it is so contagious plus infants cannot get vaccinated until a year old. One case in a public place is dangerous for any unvaxxed/too young to vaccinate infants and immunocompromised individuals. One case in a hospital ER or pediatric hospital ER is a nightmare. [/quote Double post to add, part of the concern with being able to identify and isolate measles quickly is that most doctors have not seen it nowadays unless they have worked abroad. You may have missed the retired ID doc posting in this thread who said they had not treated a case in their lifetime, thanks to the vaccine. Will also add, folks are blaming migrants for measles cominf back. So long as we have declining MMR vaccination rates, measles will find a way in no matter if there is a completely seales border. One single case will infect 9 out of 10 nearby nonimmune via airborne transmission. Will also add that the mortality of measles is somewhat understated in that it causes an immune amnesia such that those recently infected become more susceptible to other diseases in the near future. [/quote]
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