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Anonymous wrote:Not to join the Taylor what the heck were you doing train but why in the world did she bring Lana up?! Lana had just lost the aoty and looked so disappointed. Lana didn't even say anything. I felt awful for her

Same here. Taylor appeared to literally drag Lana up on to the stage, where she attempted to hide until Taylor insisted that she come out. Very awkward, poorly handled moment.

Did she actually do that? Why?! Lana is so talented and has a very loyal fan base and so much respect. I think it's rude and condescending if it happened the way described here. She needs no hyping.

They came together and sat together and Lana was featured on Midnights, so it is not totally random.

^ Taylor was looking out for her all night from the time they arrived: https://www.tiktok.com/@enews/video/7331921555582209323

Taylor means well but her intentions don't translate that in her actions. It was insensitive to bring Lana up. The poor girl has been snubbed for years. She didnt have time to process the loss before being dragged up on stage to celebrate her friend's win. Her immaturity is staggering

I agree but maybe Taylor was thinking about Lana sitting at the table by herself, which she would have been.

And? It is weirder to act like Lana del Rey would feel like some shy forgotten girl for being alone for a little bit. Sometimes it feels like Taylor Swift is stuck in high school.

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Anonymous wrote:For anyone who hasn’t yet heard the new Billy Joel song:

Fantastic!

Who sits around and listens to bombastic, overwrought garbage like this?

Billy Joel deserves to be heard. And I was never a mega fan.

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Anonymous wrote:Haunting performance by Joni Mitchell at 80 and clearly not in good health.

But she seemed very lucid. She also performed the song (not just going through the motions ). I liked the perspective of those lyrics coming from an elder. It was well done.

Agree. The lyrics were beautiful. I was trying to explain to my Gen Z daughter that Joni is the older generation's TS. I'm a Xennial and don't even feel like my generation is familiar with her so now I'm going to dig a little more into her music.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to join the Taylor what the heck were you doing train but why in the world did she bring Lana up?! Lana had just lost the aoty and looked so disappointed. Lana didn't even say anything. I felt awful for her

Same here. Taylor appeared to literally drag Lana up on to the stage, where she attempted to hide until Taylor insisted that she come out. Very awkward, poorly handled moment.

Did she actually do that? Why?! Lana is so talented and has a very loyal fan base and so much respect. I think it's rude and condescending if it happened the way described here. She needs no hyping.

They came together and sat together and Lana was featured on Midnights, so it is not totally random.

It did not look like Lana wanted to go up, at all, and did so only because Taylor was just in her own world in that moment and Lana didn't want to make a scene.

It also winds up being super rude to the other nominees, going out of her way to tout Lana but say nothing about any of them. Especially in a year where the the list was almost entirely female artists. I love Lana del Rey and actually much preferred her album to Taylor's this year. But to single Lana out in that way, even if she is on one track on Midnights, and say nothing about Janelle, Phoebe, SZA, Miley? And of course she said nothing about Olivia, they have beef.

Her whole speech came off as incredibly self-involved and obnoxious. "I'd love to tell you this is the happiest moment of my life"? No one expects you to say that because you've won this exact award three times before.

And the "shocked face" when she wins? She is not some 19 year old ingenue anymore. It is getting SO old.

I saw some annoyed faces in the crowd as she was getting into her antics going on stage. People are sick of her. Just absolutely over it. And I'm sorry, she may have some good songs, but she also produces a lot of drivel and her body of work is simply not good enough from an artistic perspective for people to ignore this stuff.

They played Karma when she won the award, which is NOT the best song on Midnights and kind of highlighted for me how weak the album is. They should have played Anti Hero but I think it would have felt a little to on the nose.

I think anti-hero was one of my least favorite songs on that album.

She had everyone with writing credits from the album up there, including Lana. I do agree that Lana didn’t want to go up there though I don’t think Taylor meant anything bad by it. She was just losing her mind. I’m sure she’s not happy with how it went for a few reasons but what can you do?

I think many of these people are socially awkward. They are artists.

WHY is she losing her mind though? This is her 14th win. She's been nominated over 50 times. She is coming off a hugely successful year. Why is she acting so overwhelmed in that moment.

It's not socially awkward. It's a put on. And it's not even convincing. I don't believe for one moment that she felt so overwhelmed in that moment that she couldn't have hit some prepared talking points (like mentioning the other nominees, acknowledging Celine). I mean, she knew she was going to announce the new album when she won for best Pop Vocal, the whole thing was orchestrated in advance. Well so is the starry-eyed "who, me?!" act. It's a put-on she does to try and make herself more relatable to fans. The sad thing is that it still works!

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Anonymous wrote:Not to join the Taylor what the heck were you doing train but why in the world did she bring Lana up?! Lana had just lost the aoty and looked so disappointed. Lana didn't even say anything. I felt awful for her

Same here. Taylor appeared to literally drag Lana up on to the stage, where she attempted to hide until Taylor insisted that she come out. Very awkward, poorly handled moment.

Did she actually do that? Why?! Lana is so talented and has a very loyal fan base and so much respect. I think it's rude and condescending if it happened the way described here. She needs no hyping.

They came together and sat together and Lana was featured on Midnights, so it is not totally random.

It did not look like Lana wanted to go up, at all, and did so only because Taylor was just in her own world in that moment and Lana didn't want to make a scene.

It also winds up being super rude to the other nominees, going out of her way to tout Lana but say nothing about any of them. Especially in a year where the the list was almost entirely female artists. I love Lana del Rey and actually much preferred her album to Taylor's this year. But to single Lana out in that way, even if she is on one track on Midnights, and say nothing about Janelle, Phoebe, SZA, Miley? And of course she said nothing about Olivia, they have beef.

Her whole speech came off as incredibly self-involved and obnoxious. "I'd love to tell you this is the happiest moment of my life"? No one expects you to say that because you've won this exact award three times before.

And the "shocked face" when she wins? She is not some 19 year old ingenue anymore. It is getting SO old.

I saw some annoyed faces in the crowd as she was getting into her antics going on stage. People are sick of her. Just absolutely over it. And I'm sorry, she may have some good songs, but she also produces a lot of drivel and her body of work is simply not good enough from an artistic perspective for people to ignore this stuff.

They played Karma when she won the award, which is NOT the best song on Midnights and kind of highlighted for me how weak the album is. They should have played Anti Hero but I think it would have felt a little to on the nose.

I think anti-hero was one of my least favorite songs on that album.

She had everyone with writing credits from the album up there, including Lana. I do agree that Lana didn’t want to go up there though I don’t think Taylor meant anything bad by it. She was just losing her mind. I’m sure she’s not happy with how it went for a few reasons but what can you do?

I think many of these people are socially awkward. They are artists.

WHY is she losing her mind though? This is her 14th win. She's been nominated over 50 times. She is coming off a hugely successful year. Why is she acting so overwhelmed in that moment.

It's not socially awkward. It's a put on. And it's not even convincing. I don't believe for one moment that she felt so overwhelmed in that moment that she couldn't have hit some prepared talking points (like mentioning the other nominees, acknowledging Celine). I mean, she knew she was going to announce the new album when she won for best Pop Vocal, the whole thing was orchestrated in advance. Well so is the starry-eyed "who, me?!" act. It's a put-on she does to try and make herself more relatable to fans. The sad thing is that it still works!

Ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to join the Taylor what the heck were you doing train but why in the world did she bring Lana up?! Lana had just lost the aoty and looked so disappointed. Lana didn't even say anything. I felt awful for her

Same here. Taylor appeared to literally drag Lana up on to the stage, where she attempted to hide until Taylor insisted that she come out. Very awkward, poorly handled moment.

Did she actually do that? Why?! Lana is so talented and has a very loyal fan base and so much respect. I think it's rude and condescending if it happened the way described here. She needs no hyping.

They came together and sat together and Lana was featured on Midnights, so it is not totally random.

^ Taylor was looking out for her all night from the time they arrived: https://www.tiktok.com/@enews/video/7331921555582209323

Taylor means well but her intentions don't translate that in her actions. It was insensitive to bring Lana up. The poor girl has been snubbed for years. She didnt have time to process the loss before being dragged up on stage to celebrate her friend's win. Her immaturity is staggering

I agree but maybe Taylor was thinking about Lana sitting at the table by herself, which she would have been.

Lana is 38 years old and has a lot of friends in the room. She would not have been alone and she would have figured it out.

Lana protested going up, and then once she got on stage made a beeline for the back of the stage so she could be off to the side. THEN Taylor made a big deal about "come closer, I feel so alone over here!" And Jack and Laura (who were involved in the whole album) came closer, but Taylor was still annoyed and that's when she made a big speech about Lana being a legend. It's like Taylor could not just leave her alone in that moment.

I feel like if someone else did that to Taylor, she would have felt super insulted and condescended to. With reason!

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Anonymous wrote:Haunting performance by Joni Mitchell at 80 and clearly not in good health.

But she seemed very lucid. She also performed the song (not just going through the motions ). I liked the perspective of those lyrics coming from an elder. It was well done.

Agree. The lyrics were beautiful. I was trying to explain to my Gen Z daughter that Joni is the older generation's TS. I'm a Xennial and don't even feel like my generation is familiar with her so now I'm going to dig a little more into her music.

Joni is the GOAT. For real. Enjoy her back catalog, it's amazing.

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Anonymous wrote:Jay Z is an idiot

What is he doing? What did he do?

Jay-Z read the GRammy's for some filth. He won the Dr Dre Global impact award. Brough Blue Ivy on stage (when did she become a teenager!). Gave a rambling speech that hard some hard-hitting points but rambled a bit too incoherently. Brought up that Beyonce has the most grammys ever, btu hasn't ever won album of the year. There's also long-standing controversy of how songs/acts are placed in different categories, with some real head scratchers/insults, especially in the rap categories. Did make a funny joke about Will smith boycotting the grammy's the year they won a rap grammy but boycotted when their category wasn't in the broadcast. He joked it was a dumb boycott because then they watched the grammys on TV, which I thought he might be trying to diss Will and DJ Jazzy Jeff, but then he joked he also had a dumb boycott where he also watched after DMZ wasn't nominated.

I can't stand him and I can't stand Beyonce. That was embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to join the Taylor what the heck were you doing train but why in the world did she bring Lana up?! Lana had just lost the aoty and looked so disappointed. Lana didn't even say anything. I felt awful for her

Same here. Taylor appeared to literally drag Lana up on to the stage, where she attempted to hide until Taylor insisted that she come out. Very awkward, poorly handled moment.

Did she actually do that? Why?! Lana is so talented and has a very loyal fan base and so much respect. I think it's rude and condescending if it happened the way described here. She needs no hyping.

They came together and sat together and Lana was featured on Midnights, so it is not totally random.

It did not look like Lana wanted to go up, at all, and did so only because Taylor was just in her own world in that moment and Lana didn't want to make a scene.

It also winds up being super rude to the other nominees, going out of her way to tout Lana but say nothing about any of them. Especially in a year where the the list was almost entirely female artists. I love Lana del Rey and actually much preferred her album to Taylor's this year. But to single Lana out in that way, even if she is on one track on Midnights, and say nothing about Janelle, Phoebe, SZA, Miley? And of course she said nothing about Olivia, they have beef.

Her whole speech came off as incredibly self-involved and obnoxious. "I'd love to tell you this is the happiest moment of my life"? No one expects you to say that because you've won this exact award three times before.

And the "shocked face" when she wins? She is not some 19 year old ingenue anymore. It is getting SO old.

I saw some annoyed faces in the crowd as she was getting into her antics going on stage. People are sick of her. Just absolutely over it. And I'm sorry, she may have some good songs, but she also produces a lot of drivel and her body of work is simply not good enough from an artistic perspective for people to ignore this stuff.

They played Karma when she won the award, which is NOT the best song on Midnights and kind of highlighted for me how weak the album is. They should have played Anti Hero but I think it would have felt a little to on the nose.

I think anti-hero was one of my least favorite songs on that album.

She had everyone with writing credits from the album up there, including Lana. I do agree that Lana didn’t want to go up there though I don’t think Taylor meant anything bad by it. She was just losing her mind. I’m sure she’s not happy with how it went for a few reasons but what can you do?

I think many of these people are socially awkward. They are artists.

WHY is she losing her mind though? This is her 14th win. She's been nominated over 50 times. She is coming off a hugely successful year. Why is she acting so overwhelmed in that moment.

It's not socially awkward. It's a put on. And it's not even convincing. I don't believe for one moment that she felt so overwhelmed in that moment that she couldn't have hit some prepared talking points (like mentioning the other nominees, acknowledging Celine). I mean, she knew she was going to announce the new album when she won for best Pop Vocal, the whole thing was orchestrated in advance. Well so is the starry-eyed "who, me?!" act. It's a put-on she does to try and make herself more relatable to fans. The sad thing is that it still works!

It wasn't "just" her 14th Grammy. First, it was for album of the year. That's the one they all want. Why do you think Jay Z is up there all butt hurt, griping about Beyonce never winning one? Second, she's the first artist ever to win it 4 times. It was a big deal, however you slice it.

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I am not a Taylor fan nor do I hate, I mostly ignore and am really not familiar with her personality- so I was surprised she did not have more composure, grace, self awareness etc. The shock at winning a Grammy when you are a once in a generation artist was cringeworthy for me. She also looked disheveled and I was surprised she hadn’t been touched up or anything!

I am sure that sounds like hating but it really was just genuine surprise since I expected her to command the situation like more of a professional!

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Anonymous wrote:Not to join the Taylor what the heck were you doing train but why in the world did she bring Lana up?! Lana had just lost the aoty and looked so disappointed. Lana didn't even say anything. I felt awful for her

Same here. Taylor appeared to literally drag Lana up on to the stage, where she attempted to hide until Taylor insisted that she come out. Very awkward, poorly handled moment.

Did she actually do that? Why?! Lana is so talented and has a very loyal fan base and so much respect. I think it's rude and condescending if it happened the way described here. She needs no hyping.

They came together and sat together and Lana was featured on Midnights, so it is not totally random.

^ Taylor was looking out for her all night from the time they arrived: https://www.tiktok.com/@enews/video/7331921555582209323

Taylor means well but her intentions don't translate that in her actions. It was insensitive to bring Lana up. The poor girl has been snubbed for years. She didnt have time to process the loss before being dragged up on stage to celebrate her friend's win. Her immaturity is staggering

I agree but maybe Taylor was thinking about Lana sitting at the table by herself, which she would have been.

And? It is weirder to act like Lana del Rey would feel like some shy forgotten girl for being alone for a little bit. Sometimes it feels like Taylor Swift is stuck in high school.

This. It's condescending to treat an adult who is your professional equal (which Lana absolutely is) like this.

I think Taylor is very weird about her friendships and that many of them have this dynamic where she's the other person's savior/guide or something. It's strange. Lana's not some ingenue who recently broke into the business. The normal thing to do there would have been to hug her and whisper something supportive to her before accepting the award, and then made a point of mentioning her on stage as a collaborator on one of the songs, maybe as a segue to saying how much Taylor loved Lana's album and how much talent and creativity was in the category. She wouldn't have to mention everyone by name and she doesn't need to not mention Lana at all, I mean she's on Midnights. But there was a classy, respectful way to handle it, and then there's what Taylor did.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not a Taylor fan nor do I hate, I mostly ignore and am really not familiar with her personality- so I was surprised she did not have more composure, grace, self awareness etc. The shock at winning a Grammy when you are a once in a generation artist was cringeworthy for me. She also looked disheveled and I was surprised she hadn’t been touched up or anything!

I am sure that sounds like hating but it really was just genuine surprise since I expected her to command the situation like more of a professional!

I am a big fan and I found the way she acted last night super disappointing. I agree with PPs that the "who?!?! me??!" act is getting supremely old - she is a megastar and in her mid-30s. Time to act like you have been there. Dragging Lana up on stage was embarrassing and her snub of Celine was downright rude. Bummed out today!

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Anonymous wrote:Her awkwardness is baked in. Fans know she is and that is part of why they like her.

Agree. She’s relatable to the awkward stage kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to join the Taylor what the heck were you doing train but why in the world did she bring Lana up?! Lana had just lost the aoty and looked so disappointed. Lana didn't even say anything. I felt awful for her

Same here. Taylor appeared to literally drag Lana up on to the stage, where she attempted to hide until Taylor insisted that she come out. Very awkward, poorly handled moment.

Did she actually do that? Why?! Lana is so talented and has a very loyal fan base and so much respect. I think it's rude and condescending if it happened the way described here. She needs no hyping.

They came together and sat together and Lana was featured on Midnights, so it is not totally random.

It did not look like Lana wanted to go up, at all, and did so only because Taylor was just in her own world in that moment and Lana didn't want to make a scene.

It also winds up being super rude to the other nominees, going out of her way to tout Lana but say nothing about any of them. Especially in a year where the the list was almost entirely female artists. I love Lana del Rey and actually much preferred her album to Taylor's this year. But to single Lana out in that way, even if she is on one track on Midnights, and say nothing about Janelle, Phoebe, SZA, Miley? And of course she said nothing about Olivia, they have beef.

Her whole speech came off as incredibly self-involved and obnoxious. "I'd love to tell you this is the happiest moment of my life"? No one expects you to say that because you've won this exact award three times before.

And the "shocked face" when she wins? She is not some 19 year old ingenue anymore. It is getting SO old.

I saw some annoyed faces in the crowd as she was getting into her antics going on stage. People are sick of her. Just absolutely over it. And I'm sorry, she may have some good songs, but she also produces a lot of drivel and her body of work is simply not good enough from an artistic perspective for people to ignore this stuff.

They played Karma when she won the award, which is NOT the best song on Midnights and kind of highlighted for me how weak the album is. They should have played Anti Hero but I think it would have felt a little to on the nose.

I think anti-hero was one of my least favorite songs on that album.

She had everyone with writing credits from the album up there, including Lana. I do agree that Lana didn’t want to go up there though I don’t think Taylor meant anything bad by it. She was just losing her mind. I’m sure she’s not happy with how it went for a few reasons but what can you do?

I think many of these people are socially awkward. They are artists.

WHY is she losing her mind though? This is her 14th win. She's been nominated over 50 times. She is coming off a hugely successful year. Why is she acting so overwhelmed in that moment.

It's not socially awkward. It's a put on. And it's not even convincing. I don't believe for one moment that she felt so overwhelmed in that moment that she couldn't have hit some prepared talking points (like mentioning the other nominees, acknowledging Celine). I mean, she knew she was going to announce the new album when she won for best Pop Vocal, the whole thing was orchestrated in advance. Well so is the starry-eyed "who, me?!" act. It's a put-on she does to try and make herself more relatable to fans. The sad thing is that it still works!

It wasn't "just" her 14th Grammy. First, it was for album of the year. That's the one they all want. Why do you think Jay Z is up there all butt hurt, griping about Beyonce never winning one? Second, she's the first artist ever to win it 4 times. It was a big deal, however you slice it.

It's a big deal. It is NOT, however, a big surprise.

She should be rising to these moments. She is not. I feel weird saying this about Taylor Swift but: she needs media training. She's winging it, and I think she's doing what has worked in the past and what she thinks her fans want. But at this stage in her career, if she doesn't make a shift towards owning her success and power a bit more, people are going to turn on her real fast (it's already happening). If she's 40 years old, making fake shocked faces and being awkwardly rude to people at awards shows, it is not going to fly.

Act like you've been there, Taylor. You are too old and established for this schtick.

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someone explain Travis Scott to me. My teen loves him and that performance was just...awful. I don't get this at all. It just sounds like he's saying random sounds and no actual words are coming out of his mouth. The beats are repetitive and boring. The song in the sneaker tie-in thing afterwards was equally bad or was it the same song? I couldn't even tell.