grammys 2024

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I didn't watch the whole show, don't even know most of the nominees, but I can say ...

It's about damn time that Brandy Clark got an award! If you are not familiar with her, it's worth checking out her music.

Particularly poignant is an older song, "Since You've Gone to Heaven" an homage to a small-town father that's died:

Since you've gone to heaven
They shut the salt mill down
Guys you worked for 30 years with have all gone out of town
There's signs in every storefront
Seems like everything's for sale
They say the markets bouncing back, but it's sure hard to tell
Since you've gone to heaven
The whole world's gone to hell

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch the whole show, don't even know most of the nominees, but I can say ...

It's about damn time that Brandy Clark got an award! If you are not familiar with her, it's worth checking out her music.

Particularly poignant is an older song, "Since You've Gone to Heaven" an homage to a small-town father that's died:

Since you've gone to heaven
They shut the salt mill down
Guys you worked for 30 years with have all gone out of town
There's signs in every storefront
Seems like everything's for sale
They say the markets bouncing back, but it's sure hard to tell
Since you've gone to heaven
The whole world's gone to hell

Hmm I will, thanks for the info.

You really should listen to the nominees/performers. Amazing music.

Miley, Jim Baptist, Olivia Rodrigo, BillieEilish to name just a few

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Anonymous wrote:Who gave the award to Jay Z and how did he respond/acknowledge them?

Who handed Grammys to Beyoncé over the years, and how did she respond/acknowledge them?

Please pull clips so we can properly evaluate the evidence.

Beyoncé:

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Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I'm not a Taylor hater, but she kinda dissed Celine Dion there. Not cool.

I must have missed this. How?

I thought so too. She barely acknowledged her.

My 13 yo said she thought it was fine fwiw.

Isn’t Celine sick? Maybe she was being accommodating to her disorder. Can Celine even respond back?

Celine has stiff person syndrome or something. She is in her senses and was waiting to be acknowledged and Taylor does not respect a woman who has been in the music industry for ages. Her time will come too when the younger ones diss her. Karma is a b****

They are all worth billions. Do they need to be worshiped as well? And Celine has never had the reputation for being disrespectful?

Celine is not perfect-lol. And in any event, I doubt she cares much about whether TS properly genuflected to her. It is an awards show and was not something rehearsed.

Look, I don't even like TS songs. But, some of you all need to take a breath. I am not sure why she lives in your headspace like she does. Frankly, nothing she does will appease some of you. And you know what? You give her MORE attention, and piss off the swifties, by constantly coming down on her. Just . . . . ignore.

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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.

Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.

Remember this post when Taylor is 60 and handing out an award!

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Anonymous wrote:I think Céline tried to steal the thunder of whoever was going to win that award. She tried to make someone else’s moment hers and I’m glad it backfired. If she wanted to make an appearance and gain relevance again or whatever she was trying to do don’t do at the final and most important award. She’s the jerk here.

Please. Miley Cyrus managed to be gracious to Mariah Carey AND shine. In fact, being gracious is always a win for the gracious person. Taylor Swift is so self-centered she could not even fake it until her PR told her to backstage, and she managed to look rude then too with the weird pose.

It should never be about the person handing out the award to begin with. There should be no need for someone winning an award to be "gracious" to the other famous person handing it to them who had nothing to do with it beyond wanting to promote themselves, too. It's so ridiculous I can't believe this is even a discussion.

Famous people usually hand out awards (same at Academy Awards). TS didn't even LOOK at Celine Dion. There is no way around her rudeness.

Go watch the Oscars or any movie/tv awards and you’ll see that the winner rarely acknowledges the stars—oftentimes A listers or icons. They grab the award from the person and launch into their speech.

People just hate Taylor and look for reasons to criticize.

This is simply not true. It is STANDARD for the person receiving the award to take a moment to hug or thank the presenter before giving their speech. Like you can go look at a bunch of these awards but it's very typical.

And when the presenter is someone super high profile, like legend status, it is very typical for recipients to say something about the presenter as they begin their speech. Like when Oppenheimer won for Best Picture-Drama at the Golden Globes, Oprah was the presenter and the producer who accepted the award (Emma Thomas) made a point of speaking to her as she took it and then also acknowledge Oprah as she began her speech. This is what most people do.

When Harry Styles won this same award last year, Trevor Noah is technically the presenter but they did a thing where they brought "super fans" up on stage to announce the winner. Watch Harry give this woman the biggest possible hug before going to give a speech where he also acknowledge his fellow nominees (also a very normal thing that people frequently do). He was calm and gracious, even though this was his very first time winning that award and only his 3rd Grammy ever. And like Taylor, he'd won earlier in the evening for best Pop/Vocal album.

I have never seen an award recipient who is mid career and has won these awards in the past (Taylor has been going to the Grammys for TWENTY YEARS) behave the way Taylor did. I can't think of a time when I've watched a winner, but especially one as prominent as Taylor who his a repeat winner (and even won an award earlier that evening), grab an award from someone's hands while distractedly screaming at other people on the stage, the way Taylor did. But especially not from someone as prominent as Celine Dion. Her behavior was strange to me. I'm not even going to say it was rude -- I think it was weird and perhaps reflects either being drunk/high AF in that moment, or simply being a very immature person, or both.

It reflects poorly on her character, period.

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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.

Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.

+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.

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Jon Batiste winning in 2022 -- hugs Billie Eilish on way up to stage, hugs and acknowledges Lenni Kravitz as he takes the award, starts speech with "there is no best" and saying it's all subjective and talking about the power of music to reach people when "they need it most":

Harry Styles winning in 2023 -- hugs fellow nominee Lizzo on way up to stage, appears honored and really taking in the moment, takes long moment to hug the woman who handed him the award, starts his speech with acknowledging the other nominees and saying how much he respects them and likes them, seems honored and grateful and does not complain at all:

Taylor Swift winning in 2024 -- ignores fellow nominees both on the floor and in speech, runs around stage hugging other members of the production team, takes award from Celine freaking Dion without even looking at her, immediately complains she's "so lonely" in her speech, says nothing about other nominees except Lana who she dragged on stage:

Taylor's acceptance was weird and rude. It was a blown opportunity for her to show herself in a good light to fans and the industry. That is why people are reacting negatively. It's not "pick on Taylor" time, it's not misogyny. It's Taylor acting obnoxious and immature and rude in a big moment with a spotlight on it, and people noticing.

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Billie Eilish and Finneas O'Connell winning in 2020 -- both hug LL Cool J as they collect the award, immediately recognize fellow nominee:

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Kacey Musgrave, 2019 -- hugs Alicia Keys and talks to her as she takes the award, immediately starts talking about the "really brilliant works of art" that were the other albums in the category:

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And here's Taylor's win in 2021, which I didn't include above because it was the Covid Grammys and there was social distancing and she wasn't actually allowed to take the award from the presenter (they left them on the podium to be collected), but I'll note that even by Taylor's own standards, her 2024 acceptance was rude and weird. In 2021 she let Aaron Dessner speak first, which was classy, and she gave a calm, sweet speech.

Though notably she still does not acknowledge other nominees, which again, is outlier behavior for this category which generally is a collection of pretty banger, well-respected albums each year.

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Yeah it was not Taylor’s finest moment. Hopefully she learns from it and will do better next time.

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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.

Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.

+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.

Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.