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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.
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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.


Literally . . . who cares? Repercussions? A bunch of harpies on social media whining about a pop star not bowing and scraping in the moment she receives an award? I'm pretty sure she doesn't GAF and, honestly no one else should either.
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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.


Literally . . . who cares? Repercussions? A bunch of harpies on social media whining about a pop star not bowing and scraping in the moment she receives an award? I'm pretty sure she doesn't GAF and, honestly no one else should either.


Maybe she should have curtsied?

Yes, saying "thank you" would have been the polite thing to do. But, it seems Celine has bigger things to deal with than whether or not someone gushed appropriately.

- Not a fan of either of them
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Anonymous wrote:Haunting performance by Joni Mitchell at 80 and clearly not in good health.


But she seemed very lucid. She also performed the song (not just going through the motions ). I liked the perspective of those lyrics coming from an elder. It was well done.


Agree. The lyrics were beautiful. I was trying to explain to my Gen Z daughter that Joni is the older generation's TS. I'm a Xennial and don't even feel like my generation is familiar with her so now I'm going to dig a little more into her music.


She was nowhere on TS level fame or success wise.
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Anonymous wrote:Haunting performance by Joni Mitchell at 80 and clearly not in good health.


But she seemed very lucid. She also performed the song (not just going through the motions ). I liked the perspective of those lyrics coming from an elder. It was well done.


Agree. The lyrics were beautiful. I was trying to explain to my Gen Z daughter that Joni is the older generation's TS. I'm a Xennial and don't even feel like my generation is familiar with her so now I'm going to dig a little more into her music.


She was nowhere on TS level fame or success wise.


TS has a good business thing going on. Joni Mitchell would scoff at that. “Pave paradise and put up a parking lot.”

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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.


Literally . . . who cares? Repercussions? A bunch of harpies on social media whining about a pop star not bowing and scraping in the moment she receives an award? I'm pretty sure she doesn't GAF and, honestly no one else should either.


Maybe she should have curtsied?

Yes, saying "thank you" would have been the polite thing to do. But, it seems Celine has bigger things to deal with than whether or not someone gushed appropriately.

- Not a fan of either of them


Exactly. But honestly why even say thank you? For what exactly?
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Anonymous wrote:Haunting performance by Joni Mitchell at 80 and clearly not in good health.


But she seemed very lucid. She also performed the song (not just going through the motions ). I liked the perspective of those lyrics coming from an elder. It was well done.


Agree. The lyrics were beautiful. I was trying to explain to my Gen Z daughter that Joni is the older generation's TS. I'm a Xennial and don't even feel like my generation is familiar with her so now I'm going to dig a little more into her music.


She was nowhere on TS level fame or success wise.


Sure, but she happened to be a far superior songwriter and singer.
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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.


Literally . . . who cares? Repercussions? A bunch of harpies on social media whining about a pop star not bowing and scraping in the moment she receives an award? I'm pretty sure she doesn't GAF and, honestly no one else should either.


Even implying that Swift doesn't "GAF" about public opinion of her in just about any context is laughable at best.
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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.


Literally . . . who cares? Repercussions? A bunch of harpies on social media whining about a pop star not bowing and scraping in the moment she receives an award? I'm pretty sure she doesn't GAF and, honestly no one else should either.


Even implying that Swift doesn't "GAF" about public opinion of her in just about any context is laughable at best.


I agree. She really does care what people think of her. In a good way. She wants to be, and is, a good person. So why can’t people think that she was caught up in the moment instead of acting like she “dissed” her. She didn’t.
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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.


Literally . . . who cares? Repercussions? A bunch of harpies on social media whining about a pop star not bowing and scraping in the moment she receives an award? I'm pretty sure she doesn't GAF and, honestly no one else should either.


Maybe she should have curtsied?

Yes, saying "thank you" would have been the polite thing to do. But, it seems Celine has bigger things to deal with than whether or not someone gushed appropriately.

- Not a fan of either of them


Exactly. But honestly why even say thank you? For what exactly?


For showing up to present the award. For lending the event and the winner the prestige of having one of the most significant recording artists of the last 50 years bless the proceedings.

You might think that all sounds dumb. Maybe it is. But if you think that's dumb, then the Grammys are dumb, and the award Taylor won is dumb. I you want to participate in these events and be a "member of the academy," well, this is what that means.

Taylor Swift, btw, freaking loves awards. Like a lot of artists, she cares A LOT about being honored and recognized by her peers. Well guess what, so do her peers, which in this case includes Celine Dion.

If Taylor doesn't care, if it doesn't matter, she's welcome to not put her music up for these awards at all. Go win the VMAs and the People's Choice awards.
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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.


Literally . . . who cares? Repercussions? A bunch of harpies on social media whining about a pop star not bowing and scraping in the moment she receives an award? I'm pretty sure she doesn't GAF and, honestly no one else should either.


Maybe she should have curtsied?

Yes, saying "thank you" would have been the polite thing to do. But, it seems Celine has bigger things to deal with than whether or not someone gushed appropriately.

- Not a fan of either of them


Exactly. But honestly why even say thank you? For what exactly?


For showing up to present the award. For lending the event and the winner the prestige of having one of the most significant recording artists of the last 50 years bless the proceedings.

You might think that all sounds dumb. Maybe it is. But if you think that's dumb, then the Grammys are dumb, and the award Taylor won is dumb. I you want to participate in these events and be a "member of the academy," well, this is what that means.

Taylor Swift, btw, freaking loves awards. Like a lot of artists, she cares A LOT about being honored and recognized by her peers. Well guess what, so do her peers, which in this case includes Celine Dion.

If Taylor doesn't care, if it doesn't matter, she's welcome to not put her music up for these awards at all. Go win the VMAs and the People's Choice awards.


Bless the proceedings?
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Let’s see if the next person wins the AOTY 4 times is better able to handle the record-breaking excitement. Then we can compare.
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I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift.

Also not a fan of Celine Dion. Neither one is a goddess. Neither one needs to be bowed down to.

Joni Mitchell on the other hand, more creativity and talent in one little finger than either Taylor or Celine have in their whole careers.

Brandi Carlile has it right. We're living in the time of Joni Mitchell. There would be no Taylor Swift without Joni Mitchell.

Celine Dion just sings the songs someone else wrote. Not a fan.
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Anonymous wrote:Her first award of the evening, she hugged both of the people handing out the award. For the second she brought up everyone who worked on the album which created a totally different dynamic. The least important person on that stage was Celine Dion. If Céline Dion wanted more attention she should have chosen a different award to hand out and not the last one.


Wow. Turning this on Celine. She was gracious about the lack of acknowledgement. It was everyone else who pointed it out.

Also, I think the Grammy organizers decide who will hand out which award. And Celine's selection for this was 100% appropriate.


+1, the people trying to make this Celine's fault are nuts. She said nothing about it.

Seriously, this woman has a debilitating illness that likely made getting dressed up for these awards and coming out to present actually hard. I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world to do, but it genuinely is an honor for the recipient of that award to receive from someone like Celine Dion who could easily have just stayed home in her freaking pajamas and rested.

I am not normally a "respect your elders" type person but the level of narcissism on Taylor's part here has me reconsidering that position. I'd be pissed if I were Celine to be shunted to the side like that with barely a word, and Celine was actually pretty chill about it, and then posed for that dumb picture of her backstage too. Do not make this Celine's fault, FFS.


Oh please. First the standard is not to always hug etc. the presenter. I'd say, yes, it happens more than 50% but it's not required. And who said anything is Celine's "fault." LOL. Lord, yo uppl are reaching.

Celine could have not presented but chose to do so. And that's great but . . . big deal. She's a phenomenal singer. And, as stated, she didn't make this a big deal. You all did. And it says alot about your jealousy and pettiness that you have.

-not a TS fan.


It would have been a thing no matter who did it. It's the biggest award of the night, so people pay attention to it, and ANY winner who behaved the way Taylor did would have been raked over the coals for it.

If anything, Taylor is getting a lot of benefit of the doubt, some earned some not. If Olivia Rodrigo had won and done what Taylor did, she would be getting DESTROYED by media and the public for being an entitled little oblivious 20 yr old. If SZA had won and did what Taylor did, she'd be getting called "ghetto" and classless and scolded left and right -- she probably would have issued a public apology to Celine and the academy by now, at the request of her record label. boygenius would have been called arrogant and holier-than-there for the same behavior. If it were Miley everyone would assume she's on drugs and calling for an intervention. Janelle Monae would be called uppity and ungrateful. Jon Batiste would be called much worse.

The idea that other performers would be allowed to behave this way and have no repercussions is just false. Taylor is probably getting the gentlest pushback of anyone in the category for this behavior.


Literally . . . who cares? Repercussions? A bunch of harpies on social media whining about a pop star not bowing and scraping in the moment she receives an award? I'm pretty sure she doesn't GAF and, honestly no one else should either.


Maybe she should have curtsied?

Yes, saying "thank you" would have been the polite thing to do. But, it seems Celine has bigger things to deal with than whether or not someone gushed appropriately.

- Not a fan of either of them


Exactly. But honestly why even say thank you? For what exactly?


For showing up to present the award. For lending the event and the winner the prestige of having one of the most significant recording artists of the last 50 years bless the proceedings.

You might think that all sounds dumb. Maybe it is. But if you think that's dumb, then the Grammys are dumb, and the award Taylor won is dumb. I you want to participate in these events and be a "member of the academy," well, this is what that means.

Taylor Swift, btw, freaking loves awards. Like a lot of artists, she cares A LOT about being honored and recognized by her peers. Well guess what, so do her peers, which in this case includes Celine Dion.

If Taylor doesn't care, if it doesn't matter, she's welcome to not put her music up for these awards at all. Go win the VMAs and the People's Choice awards.


Also all that misogynist crap
Taylor claims she has had to deal
to with was times 20 for the women who came before her. Celine Dion was so beaten into misogyny she married her record producer at a really young age.
Taylor should thank the women who came before her for making her path in the music industry a cake walk in comparison. Taylor NEVER acknowledges this and just bemoans the small amount of misogyny her dad has been unable to blaze away.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let’s see if the next person wins the AOTY 4 times is better able to handle the record-breaking excitement. Then we can compare.


Winning it 4x should make you MORE able to "handle" the excitement. Usually the more lauded and established an artist is, the more presence of mind they have, the more gracious they are.

Between Taylor acting like a drunk 14 yr old with her AOTY acceptance and Jay Z accepting a lifetime achievement award by complaining that his wife (who has more Grammys than anyone and oh by the way is pretty much always gracious at these things) is getting snubbed, the 2024 Grammys put a lot of childish behavior from very wealthy, successful people on blast.

Luckily there were high points like Chapman, Miley's lovely acceptance, Joni, etc. It is really unfortunate that some of the most prominent artists in the room lack basic manners and self-awareness. Tay and Jay need to Grow. Up.
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