If things get worse for Jewish people

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve told my kids not to tell anyone their names and to deny they are Jewish if asked. We are Jewish but by looking at me and my kids you wouldn’t automatically assume. My husband is really afraid of all that is going on - and we live in Brooklyn - but he (hopes) thinks that most people wouldn’t try to mess with him, he’s a big guy. I’m looking into self defense classes for myself and my kids. It’s scary.


How does someone look Jewish ?
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve told my kids not to tell anyone their names and to deny they are Jewish if asked. We are Jewish but by looking at me and my kids you wouldn’t automatically assume. My husband is really afraid of all that is going on - and we live in Brooklyn - but he (hopes) thinks that most people wouldn’t try to mess with him, he’s a big guy. I’m looking into self defense classes for myself and my kids. It’s scary.


How does someone look Jewish ?


Certainly there’s some variety in what we look like, like any group of 12 million, but given that 80% of us are Ashkenazi, there’s definitely some patterns in what many of us look like.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve told my kids not to tell anyone their names and to deny they are Jewish if asked. We are Jewish but by looking at me and my kids you wouldn’t automatically assume. My husband is really afraid of all that is going on - and we live in Brooklyn - but he (hopes) thinks that most people wouldn’t try to mess with him, he’s a big guy. I’m looking into self defense classes for myself and my kids. It’s scary.


How does someone look Jewish ?


wearing a kippah, for one.
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Anonymous wrote:I bet these hate filled New Yorkers, turned Israeli squatters, have come back to study in US colleges.




That was eye opening. And disturbing. I’m sure it was selective in that plenty of Israelis have different view, but still, ugh.
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Anonymous wrote:I bet these hate filled New Yorkers, turned Israeli squatters, have come back to study in US colleges.




That was eye opening. And disturbing. I’m sure it was selective in that plenty of Israelis have different view, but still, ugh.


Yes most Israelis don’t think that way. It’s a selective video.
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve told my kids not to tell anyone their names and to deny they are Jewish if asked. We are Jewish but by looking at me and my kids you wouldn’t automatically assume. My husband is really afraid of all that is going on - and we live in Brooklyn - but he (hopes) thinks that most people wouldn’t try to mess with him, he’s a big guy. I’m looking into self defense classes for myself and my kids. It’s scary.


How does someone look Jewish ?


Most Jews are ethnically indigenous to the area of Israel and share some facial characteristics.
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Anonymous wrote:Non-Jew suburban dad in Southern California, very critical of just about every action taken by the State of Israel.

That said, I wouldn’t hesitate even a moment to stand against anyone in my community threatening or preparing to take physical action against any group, absolutely including Jews in the community. How is this even a question? We are all humans first and foremost, and nobody is deserving of being terrorized by others, Palestinians, Jews, and everyone in between.


+1

I support Jews in my community and the country. I don’t want to see Jews targeted.

Israel is a different question. Let’s all make sure people feel safe right here in America.


great but you can’t claim to be a friend of the Jews and also think that it’s OK to destroy Israel.


I am not sure what you mean. I am not going to promise to get a rifle and defend Israel personally like Bill Clinton did. Anyway, I am sorry you are hurting and I am sorry for what you are going through.

We need to figure out how to fix what is going on on our college campuses and in some of our cities.


It’s pretty clear how to fix it. Universities need to expel any student from another country here on a Visa participating in these protests. American citizens need to be told they will be expelled if they have any language/signs threatening Jews and/or supporting Hamas.


You don’t think that will confuse the students here learning about the constitution? The one that explicitly prohibits the government from restricting political speech?


Restricting political speech is very much prohibited when it comes to the 1st amendment.
Celebrating terrorism and supporting terrorism is not prohibited.


Exactly. I am not a Rubio fan, but I gotta say I agree with him here. It makes me angry that people have come to the US to benefit from the opportunities offered here, yet hate us and our values and actively cheer against us and our allies. And if you don’t think that’s going on you are in serious denial. I see it on the college campus where I work. They are here to extract whatever benefit they can without any respect for what this country stands for.


So, “othering” of Jews is a problem but it is perfectly fine to throw other minorities in that bucket and incite average Americans to rage war against them? Israelis are not here to extract benefits? I have not come across a country that has extracted more benefits from American taxpayers than Israelis.


Where are you getting that this is “inciting average Americans to “rage” war”? Saying maybe we shouldn’t be welcoming people who hate us with open arms is not inciting war. It’s called opening your eyes. Not everyone who comes here from countries who hate us feels the same way. But you are just completely naive if you don’t think that there’s a subset who do. Last time I checked Israel doesn’t actively wish for our downfall.

Your last sentence sounds kind of anti Semitic, so I think we know where you stand.
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Anonymous wrote:I bet these hate filled New Yorkers, turned Israeli squatters, have come back to study in US colleges.




That was eye opening. And disturbing. I’m sure it was selective in that plenty of Israelis have different view, but still, ugh.


Yes most Israelis don’t think that way. It’s a selective video.


No it’s not a selective video, if anything the sentiments expressed are mild compared to common discourse. All one has to do is turn on an Israeli TV channel.



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Yes, things are getting worse for Jews.
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And so many posters here are thrilled.
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Move near us Evangelical Christians. We care about you and believe in western civilization. We will defend western civilization and many of us are armed and will train you to be able to defend yourself with dignity. Nobody knows how they are going to die in the end but at the very least we never want to go down in the humiliating fashion of those poor Jewish kids at the rave or loaded helplessly onto rail cars headed for the ovens. Powerful gun rights cause problems for the enemies of western civilization and freedom.


Weren't right wingers the ones chanting Jews will now replace us?


As leftists defined them, yes. Sane people know they are simply Neo-Nazis who were, socialists in Germany.


lol wut


Nazis were a socialist party.


Seriously with this crap again?

Honey, just because a word is in the name of a country or party doesn’t mean it’s truly socialist or democratic.



When they tell you what they are, believe them.


What does this even mean?


It means that the Nazi party said they were democratic socialists. Normally, we take people at their word about how they identify, no?


The Nazis were not "Democratic Socialists." They were Nationalist Socialists - it's literally in their name "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" or National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Big 'effing difference. The Nazis were not interested in democracy, other than to topple it.
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Anonymous wrote:For any Jewish posters here, do you think Jewish families will reconsider college choices in near future? Vote differently?


There are 3 colleges my son was supposed to apply to that are now on the chopping block. Does that answer your question?


I remember when Charlie Kirk was laughed at for telling parents not to send their kids to college, that they were institutions of hate now. Looks like he was right (fellow Jew here)


Charlie Kirk is still wrong, and he still gets laughed at.
My kid is going to GWU and just because some rando projects some crap about "Palestinian martyrs" onto the library means absolutely nothing other than that some rando did this - and did it without the permission of the school. He's working on undergrad cs with a poly sci minor, is ridiculously politically aware (to the point where he is neither Republican nor Democrat and can give a litany of reasons why) yet says absolutely nobody is peddling hate toward Jews in any of the classes or campus settings he's been in.


Was the rando expelled?


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Might not have even been a student.

There's a number of activist groups in DC that use high-powered projectors to project political messaging onto the walls of large buildings in DC. I wouldn't even begin to assume its a student given that the same groups of "professional protestors" have been showing up at pro-Palestine rallies on campuses all over the country.
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve told my kids not to tell anyone their names and to deny they are Jewish if asked. We are Jewish but by looking at me and my kids you wouldn’t automatically assume. My husband is really afraid of all that is going on - and we live in Brooklyn - but he (hopes) thinks that most people wouldn’t try to mess with him, he’s a big guy. I’m looking into self defense classes for myself and my kids. It’s scary.


How does someone look Jewish ?


Most Jews are ethnically indigenous to the area of Israel and share some facial characteristics.


Funny, those characteristics are indistinguishable from Palestianians, Jordanians and others from the region.
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Anonymous wrote:For any Jewish posters here, do you think Jewish families will reconsider college choices in near future? Vote differently?


There are 3 colleges my son was supposed to apply to that are now on the chopping block. Does that answer your question?


I remember when Charlie Kirk was laughed at for telling parents not to send their kids to college, that they were institutions of hate now. Looks like he was right (fellow Jew here)


Charlie Kirk is still wrong, and he still gets laughed at.
My kid is going to GWU and just because some rando projects some crap about "Palestinian martyrs" onto the library means absolutely nothing other than that some rando did this - and did it without the permission of the school. He's working on undergrad cs with a poly sci minor, is ridiculously politically aware (to the point where he is neither Republican nor Democrat and can give a litany of reasons why) yet says absolutely nobody is peddling hate toward Jews in any of the classes or campus settings he's been in.


Was the rando expelled?


NP here:
Might not have even been a student.

There's a number of activist groups in DC that use high-powered projectors to project political messaging onto the walls of large buildings in DC. I wouldn't even begin to assume its a student given that the same groups of "professional protestors" have been showing up at pro-Palestine rallies on campuses all over the country.


It was a student. If I recall it was one of the leaders of students for justice for Palestine.
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Anonymous wrote:I bet these hate filled New Yorkers, turned Israeli squatters, have come back to study in US colleges.




That was eye opening. And disturbing. I’m sure it was selective in that plenty of Israelis have different view, but still, ugh.


Yes most Israelis don’t think that way. It’s a selective video.


The girl in the Mickey Mouse t-shirt certainly knows that such views are hateful and shouldn't expressed. She tried to get her friend to stop the racist remarks against Arabs; at one point, she said, with a grimace, I don't know how to translate that; the second time, she said, no comment, and we will discuss that later, to her friend.

They all shared a naivety about their situation. Real pain and suffering are going on on the other side, daily. Yet, all is Shangri La in their little bubbles, typical youthful self-centeredness and black-and-white thinking, I suppose, but how exactly and why would any sane adult, let alone two, choose to move to Isreal to raise children in that environment?

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