
Well the cat is out of the bag now; we send billions of dollars to Israel every year, so I would say the western meddling is fairly high. What is the alternative? Pull out completely including our aid? |
NP. We can also be honest about where the Islamophobia is coming from - Jews. Is it all Jews? No, but are all Muslims spouting Anti-semitism? No. That’s what I find irritating about the dialogue. The Jewish population is smaller than the Muslim population, so proportionally, a larger percentage of the Jewish population is perpetuating hate of the other side. But the overwhelming dialogue is that they don’t represent all Jews, yet Muslims are painted as a monolith? Maybe the Muslim protesters only hate the Jewish population of Israel -‘is that okay? I would say no, but that seems to be the flip to the excuses made for Islamophobia against Palestinians. |
Can you prove that the Islamophobia in the USA is coming from Jews? |
This was obviously a facetious post, but the underlying point is dead serious and needs to be addressed: There is tons of Islamophobia in the US, and it is clearly not coming primarily from Jews. |
Difference is Muslims blew up World Trade Center, Boston Marathon, and other incidents. Jews are not blowing up things in the US and are not killing people in the US. Muslims have been linked to several terrorist attacks and have claimed to do so in the name of their religion. If people are afraid that is why. |
What is this supposed to mean? |
Yeah, definitely Islamophobic. A bunch of white men have shot up bowling alleys, bars, schools, etc. Doesn't mean we should be fearful of all white men. |
Jews are expanding into West Bank and taking land from Palestinians. And the US Jews overwhelmingly support this. Have not heard all the anti semitic accusations whenever anyone criticizes Israel ? Time to stop all aid to Israel and the us jews can emigrate to Israel if they want |
Wait, I thought you opposed ethnic cleansing? Naughty, naughty. |
Israel has been clear that if Hamas releases the hostages, they will ceasefire. But the "pro Palestine" people don't want that. If they did, they wouldn't be tearing down the kidnapped posters and demanding a ceasefire. Instead they would be demanding a release of the hostages. I find their alleged concern for Palestinian lives disingenuous for this reason. The Palestinians are being used as props by Hamas and the liberal west is falling for it. It doesn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny though, when you remember that releasing the hostages would instantly resolve this. |
"Genocide" is metaphorical to them. Like the "genocide" of Palestinians. Whose population is growing much faster than Israel's and faster than most of the world. When you ask them what they mean by genocide, they have no response because they just mean it as a trigger word, a fnord to make people panic and not to think or challenge what they are hearing. |
Military aid isn't meddling. |
Paywall |
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If you would’ve told me 4 years ago that evangelical Trump voters would be the biggest ally of our community in 2023 I would’ve called you insane (among other things). And yet here we are. [/quote] They are most definitely not our allies. Christian nationalists are only invested in Jews as fodder for their apocalypse fantasies.[/quote] That’s not what I’m seeing. [/quote] It's all superficial. Do some reading on why.[/quote] You're looking for a total purist alignment. It's not going to happen; evangelical Christians only have so much in common with Jewish people. But they don't need to be in total agreement to be allies. Joe Biden is in favor of a 2 state solution which many people believe would be the end of Israel. Post 10/7 the landscape for Jewish safety looks very different. [/quote] So you disagree with most Israelis? |