Take off a week in school year to go to disney

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

Someone doesn’t understand excuses vs unexcused absences. Teachers don’t mind giving makeup work for excused absences. It’s accommodating your Disney trip that’s the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

Someone doesn’t understand excuses vs unexcused absences. Teachers don’t mind giving makeup work for excused absences. It’s accommodating your Disney trip that’s the problem.

I’m not asking for make up work for my kids, so you don’t have a leg to stand on.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

It’s about absences for solid, legitimate reasons (illness, bereavement) versus illegitimate reasons (vacations that can be rescheduled).

It’s also about following policies and teaching children that they aren’t above society’s rules, even ones you don’t like.

It’s about forcing extra work on hardworking people, simply so you can avoid the minor inconvenience of lines at an amusement park.

Do I feel morally superior? Not really. I’m pretty solid in my belief system and don’t feel the need to compare myself to others. But when your choices impact me, like this does as a teacher, I do get annoyed.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

Someone doesn’t understand excuses vs unexcused absences. Teachers don’t mind giving makeup work for excused absences. It’s accommodating your Disney trip that’s the problem.

I’m not asking for make up work for my kids, so you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Let’s say your child receives a zero on a major assessment because of an unexcused absence. Will you fight it, or accept that as a consequence?

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

Someone doesn’t understand excuses vs unexcused absences. Teachers don’t mind giving makeup work for excused absences. It’s accommodating your Disney trip that’s the problem.

I’m not asking for make up work for my kids, so you don’t have a leg to stand on.

So don’t expect the teacher to help your kid if they miss anything. They’re on their own.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

It’s about absences for solid, legitimate reasons (illness, bereavement) versus illegitimate reasons (vacations that can be rescheduled).

It’s also about following policies and teaching children that they aren’t above society’s rules, even ones you don’t like.

It’s about forcing extra work on hardworking people, simply so you can avoid the minor inconvenience of lines at an amusement park.

Do I feel morally superior? Not really. I’m pretty solid in my belief system and don’t feel the need to compare myself to others. But when your choices impact me, like this does as a teacher, I do get annoyed.

Your admin is forcing additional work on you. “Excused absences” is just an arbitrary line in the sand. At least with a planned vacation, you can work around the syllabus versus an excuse, d but unexpected absence, like a sudden death in the family.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

It’s about absences for solid, legitimate reasons (illness, bereavement) versus illegitimate reasons (vacations that can be rescheduled).

It’s also about following policies and teaching children that they aren’t above society’s rules, even ones you don’t like.

It’s about forcing extra work on hardworking people, simply so you can avoid the minor inconvenience of lines at an amusement park.

Do I feel morally superior? Not really. I’m pretty solid in my belief system and don’t feel the need to compare myself to others. But when your choices impact me, like this does as a teacher, I do get annoyed.

Your admin is forcing additional work on you. “Excused absences” is just an arbitrary line in the sand. At least with a planned vacation, you can work around the syllabus versus an excuse, d but unexpected absence, like a sudden death in the family.

Keep trying to excuse your spoiled, entitled behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

It’s about absences for solid, legitimate reasons (illness, bereavement) versus illegitimate reasons (vacations that can be rescheduled).

It’s also about following policies and teaching children that they aren’t above society’s rules, even ones you don’t like.

It’s about forcing extra work on hardworking people, simply so you can avoid the minor inconvenience of lines at an amusement park.

Do I feel morally superior? Not really. I’m pretty solid in my belief system and don’t feel the need to compare myself to others. But when your choices impact me, like this does as a teacher, I do get annoyed.

Your admin is forcing additional work on you. “Excused absences” is just an arbitrary line in the sand. At least with a planned vacation, you can work around the syllabus versus an excuse, d but unexpected absence, like a sudden death in the family.

Your attempts to justify away policies you don’t like by calling them “arbitrary” isn’t convincing. Expecting students to attend school just makes sense. The policy isn’t arbitrary; it’s in the best interest of the community - including your child.

You don’t care. Fine. Just stop these attempts to get us to agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. As long as you don't ask me to do additional work or make spacial arrangements for your kids, why would i care? Your kids will just be marked absent and will get no credit for missed work. It's not like your kids are in the hospital or some such situation.

And if they miss a pop quiz, they’ll fail it. As they should. [/quote
You're punishing a child for something they have no control over. Teachers suck.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

It’s about absences for solid, legitimate reasons (illness, bereavement) versus illegitimate reasons (vacations that can be rescheduled).

It’s also about following policies and teaching children that they aren’t above society’s rules, even ones you don’t like.

It’s about forcing extra work on hardworking people, simply so you can avoid the minor inconvenience of lines at an amusement park.

Do I feel morally superior? Not really. I’m pretty solid in my belief system and don’t feel the need to compare myself to others. But when your choices impact me, like this does as a teacher, I do get annoyed.

Your admin is forcing additional work on you. “Excused absences” is just an arbitrary line in the sand. At least with a planned vacation, you can work around the syllabus versus an excuse, d but unexpected absence, like a sudden death in the family.

Your attempts to justify away policies you don’t like by calling them “arbitrary” isn’t convincing. Expecting students to attend school just makes sense. The policy isn’t arbitrary; it’s in the best interest of the community - including your child.

You don’t care. Fine. Just stop these attempts to get us to agree with you.

It's no illegal. What's the harm if the kids are doing fine in school otherwise?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. As long as you don't ask me to do additional work or make spacial arrangements for your kids, why would i care? Your kids will just be marked absent and will get no credit for missed work. It's not like your kids are in the hospital or some such situation.

And if they miss a pop quiz, they’ll fail it. As they should. [/quote
You're punishing a child for something they have no control over. Teachers suck.

Then, parent, don’t put your children in this position by encouraging unexcused absences. The policies are very clear.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

Someone doesn’t understand excuses vs unexcused absences. Teachers don’t mind giving makeup work for excused absences. It’s accommodating your Disney trip that’s the problem.

I’m not asking for make up work for my kids, so you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Let’s say your child receives a zero on a major assessment because of an unexcused absence. Will you fight it, or accept that as a consequence?

If they're in elementary school I could care less whether they got a 0

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

+1000.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't stand to read the whole thread but wanted to make sure this point was clear - by pulling your kids out of school you are making it harder for the teacher to do their job and impacting the education of the other children. As a teacher, I am already overworked with the normal issues. I don't mind working extra to accommodate sick children or those with legitimate reasons to miss class. But, those of you who just pull them out to go to Disney???! It takes time and effort to catch the child up. Which takes away from my teaching the other children. And yes, they get behind. Sigh. Don't be selfish. Keep your kids in school. Especially those of you who want the good teachers to stay!

Sorry it doesnt actually take long to catch a second grader up for missing 1 week of school

And you want the teacher to do that, on top of everything else?

I’m not asking the ES teacher for makeup work. My kids are above grade level. If your administration is making you accommodate, then it’s part of your job (even if you don’t like it) and should fight that fight elsewhere.

It’s lame to pretend there’s this huge loss of learning for a few days ES. You’re taking it way too personally if you think my pulling my kids out for a few days is disrespectful to your profession. My husband is French and he and his siblings got pulled out for a week every year to visit family and gasp - they would go to Disney Paris. I guarantee he got more out of that trip than a week of ES.

I am the teacher who had admin add to my job (against policy) and I am not the PP. There appear to be several people commenting who are against vacations during the school year.

The school has rules, including an attendance policy. These exist for the benefit of the entire school community, including your children. Apparently these rules are beneath you. Fine. Just don’t come to DCUM expecting people to support your decisions. And don’t expect us to find respect and support when you add to our workloads. Accept this is how we feel and take your trip to Disney.

There are plenty of people in this thread also arguing that it’s not a big deal.

Yep, there’s an attendance policy. Kids miss school for illness or bereavement days all the time. There’s no magic wand that makes Disney days worse than a sick day from a learning perspective. You just feel morally superior for some twisted reason - probably because you’ve conditioned yourself that your way is the best and everyone else is doing it wrong. Again, my kids don’t miss school for grandparent visits or sick days or sports or anything else, so taking a few days in ES for Disney over the course of a year is truly not an issue.

Respect? Support? Again, take it up with admin or find a different job if you don’t like what yours entails. Teaching is not a life sentence.

It’s about absences for solid, legitimate reasons (illness, bereavement) versus illegitimate reasons (vacations that can be rescheduled).

It’s also about following policies and teaching children that they aren’t above society’s rules, even ones you don’t like.

It’s about forcing extra work on hardworking people, simply so you can avoid the minor inconvenience of lines at an amusement park.

Do I feel morally superior? Not really. I’m pretty solid in my belief system and don’t feel the need to compare myself to others. But when your choices impact me, like this does as a teacher, I do get annoyed.

Your admin is forcing additional work on you. “Excused absences” is just an arbitrary line in the sand. At least with a planned vacation, you can work around the syllabus versus an excuse, d but unexpected absence, like a sudden death in the family.

Your attempts to justify away policies you don’t like by calling them “arbitrary” isn’t convincing. Expecting students to attend school just makes sense. The policy isn’t arbitrary; it’s in the best interest of the community - including your child.

You don’t care. Fine. Just stop these attempts to get us to agree with you.

I think the teacher with a stick up her behind about having to do her job should stop posting in this thread because it’s not going to change anyone’s mind.