New VA trans policies for schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is not complicated.

1. Schools cannot lie to parents unless there is a clear safety issue which has been documented.

2. Schools do not exist to protect children from their parents.

3. A child may want to transition back.

Number one is irritating me because if your kid asks me to call them a name, I’m going to. I’m not calling home for every kid that does this to check, that’s ridiculous. But it isn’t “lying” to you. If your kid comes out to me, i’m going to assume you know and not call you to discuss. That’s not lying. If your child discloses to me harm, abuse, or danger, I will appropriately report that as I am legally required to do and always have.

Amen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No mention of parents. Again. And no understanding of Title IX.

Hi. I’m a parent. I don’t feel left out. It’s not about us ding dong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An even stronger statement from Dr. Duran/APS and I, for one, really appreciate it.

Dear APS Community,

As many of you are aware, the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) announced new model policies for the treatment of transgender, non-binary and gender fluid students.

I reaffirm our unwavering support for our LGBTQIA+ students, staff and community. I want our transgender, non-binary, and gender fluid students to hear loud and clear that you belong here, you are valued, and we stand with and support you. Who you are enhances the lives and educational experiences of all APS students and staff. We have reviewed the model policies and determined that our current policies and policy implementation procedures that protect the rights of our transgender students will stay as is. ​Moreover, they are in alignment with decisions from the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, Title IX of the Educational Amendments of 1973, and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

I oppose any policy that infringes upon the rights of our students and threatens the safety and well-being of our LGBTQIA+ students. APS will continue to uphold our core mission and follow our policies to ensure that every child receives equal educational access and opportunities. We fully support our transgender and LGBTQIA+ students and value the many diverse identities within our schools, where every student can authentically express themselves, feel valued and have a genuine sense of belonging.

I know that the announcement of these new model policies may be distressing to some of our students. As we transition into the 2023-24 school year, school counselors, school psychologists, and school social workers are available at our schools to provide a listening and reassuring space. Additional resources for transgender, non-binary, and gender fluid youth may be found on our website and the on the Arlington County website. If families have any additional questions or concerns, they may also reach out to their child’s school.

We will continue to model and live our values in support of inclusion, belonging, well-being and access to quality education. ​To this end, our current policies and procedures that protect, affirm, and celebrate transgender, non-binary, and gender-fluid students are of paramount importance in adhering to these ideals.

Sincerely,

Dr. Francisco Durán
Superintendent

+♾️

APS got this exactly right, and I am so glad to see this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No mention of parents. Again. And no understanding of Title IX.

It says communities....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No mention of parents. Again. And no understanding of Title IX.

Hi. I’m a parent. I don’t feel left out. It’s not about us ding dong.

A child who is gender fluid or trans must also alienate their parents? With the support of their school, if they go to APS, and their community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No mention of parents. Again. And no understanding of Title IX.

Hi. I’m a parent. I don’t feel left out. It’s not about us ding dong.

A child who is gender fluid or trans must also alienate their parents? With the support of their school, if they go to APS, and their community.

I’m really curious, how you do in Twister because that is some significant pretzel logic.

A child who is gender fluid or trans hopefully is getting the support, love and acceptance they need at home; and this is a complete non issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No mention of parents. Again. And no understanding of Title IX.

It says communities....

And Title IX is mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is not complicated.

1. Schools cannot lie to parents unless there is a clear safety issue which has been documented.

2. Schools do not exist to protect children from their parents.

3. A child may want to transition back.

Number one is irritating me because if your kid asks me to call them a name, I’m going to. I’m not calling home for every kid that does this to check, that’s ridiculous. But it isn’t “lying” to you. If your kid comes out to me, i’m going to assume you know and not call you to discuss. That’s not lying. If your child discloses to me harm, abuse, or danger, I will appropriately report that as I am legally required to do and always have.

Why make so much drama for yourself though? Just call the kid what is on the school records. That's it. Why make it so hard? It makes sense. Go by the name the record indicates. And you know how rare it is to run into an adult who truly uses some other name besides some form of their own name in day to day life. It's rare. I know people who go by their middle name, or a standard nickname, but it's the exception that use an all together different name. Sometimes in life exceptions can't be handled this is one of the of those times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is not complicated.

1. Schools cannot lie to parents unless there is a clear safety issue which has been documented.

2. Schools do not exist to protect children from their parents.

3. A child may want to transition back.

Number one is irritating me because if your kid asks me to call them a name, I’m going to. I’m not calling home for every kid that does this to check, that’s ridiculous. But it isn’t “lying” to you. If your kid comes out to me, i’m going to assume you know and not call you to discuss. That’s not lying. If your child discloses to me harm, abuse, or danger, I will appropriately report that as I am legally required to do and always have.

Why make so much drama for yourself though? Just call the kid what is on the school records. That's it. Why make it so hard? It makes sense. Go by the name the record indicates. And you know how rare it is to run into an adult who truly uses some other name besides some form of their own name in day to day life. It's rare. I know people who go by their middle name, or a standard nickname, but it's the exception that use an all together different name. Sometimes in life exceptions can't be handled this is one of the of those times.

NP or you know you could just keep it moving and call the kid what
they ask you to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No mention of parents. Again. And no understanding of Title IX.

Hi. I’m a parent. I don’t feel left out. It’s not about us ding dong.

+1. I am a caretaker for my children. I don’t own them. Stop thinking of little people as “mini me” or chattel and you won’t have a problem recognizing they have thoughts and needs independent of yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. I'm calling a kid by the (reasonable) name they ask me to call them. Period. And if they ask me to use a different name with their parents I'm doing that too.

**LGBTQ youth who report having at least one accepting adult were 40% less likely to report a suicide attempt in the past year.**

I'm sure as F going to be that accepting adult without hesitation. It's quite literally the least I can do.

People can’t simultaneously argue that all the child is asking for is to be called something different while also saying if the child isn’t called by their preferred pronouns/names there is a high chance of suicide. Either it is consequential (ie if we don’t call a child by this name or use this pronoun it may adversely affect the child’s mental health and possibly lead to suicide) or it’s just like any other nickname chance and hence inconsequential. If it’s consequential then parents should know. Simple as that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. I'm calling a kid by the (reasonable) name they ask me to call them. Period. And if they ask me to use a different name with their parents I'm doing that too.

**LGBTQ youth who report having at least one accepting adult were 40% less likely to report a suicide attempt in the past year.**

I'm sure as F going to be that accepting adult without hesitation. It's quite literally the least I can do.

People can’t simultaneously argue that all the child is asking for is to be called something different while also saying if the child isn’t called by their preferred pronouns/names there is a high chance of suicide. Either it is consequential (ie if we don’t call a child by this name or use this pronoun it may adversely affect the child’s mental health and possibly lead to suicide) or it’s just like any other nickname chance and hence inconsequential. If it’s consequential then parents should know. Simple as that.

Do you even have children or are you just bored?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. I'm calling a kid by the (reasonable) name they ask me to call them. Period. And if they ask me to use a different name with their parents I'm doing that too.

**LGBTQ youth who report having at least one accepting adult were 40% less likely to report a suicide attempt in the past year.**

I'm sure as F going to be that accepting adult without hesitation. It's quite literally the least I can do.

People can’t simultaneously argue that all the child is asking for is to be called something different while also saying if the child isn’t called by their preferred pronouns/names there is a high chance of suicide. Either it is consequential (ie if we don’t call a child by this name or use this pronoun it may adversely affect the child’s mental health and possibly lead to suicide) or it’s just like any other nickname chance and hence inconsequential. If it’s consequential then parents should know. Simple as that.

Do you even have children or are you just bored?

I’m a new poster. I haven’t posted on this thread. I have two elementary schoolers and a toddler. Not sure what you are trying to imply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. I'm calling a kid by the (reasonable) name they ask me to call them. Period. And if they ask me to use a different name with their parents I'm doing that too.

**LGBTQ youth who report having at least one accepting adult were 40% less likely to report a suicide attempt in the past year.**

I'm sure as F going to be that accepting adult without hesitation. It's quite literally the least I can do.

People can’t simultaneously argue that all the child is asking for is to be called something different while also saying if the child isn’t called by their preferred pronouns/names there is a high chance of suicide. Either it is consequential (ie if we don’t call a child by this name or use this pronoun it may adversely affect the child’s mental health and possibly lead to suicide) or it’s just like any other nickname chance and hence inconsequential. If it’s consequential then parents should know. Simple as that.

Do you even have children or are you just bored?

Clearly you can’t address my point so you decided to just dismiss who I am as a person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No mention of parents. Again. And no understanding of Title IX.

It says communities....

And Title IX is mentioned.

Duran is contradicting Title IX by keeping trans girls on women's teams. Competitive girl athletes know this although mostly they don't complain about it. That's starting to change though as more trans girl athletes win.