Millennials who are mean.

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Anonymous wrote:So, Millennials, maybe it was all the things you might hold dear now, that ruined your childhood. Maybe it was the divorce(s), your mother working, non matrimonial relationships, achievement benchmarks, career ladders,the beginning of LGBTQ acceptance...as you say- the women before you ruined your lives. Well, I guess get back in the kitchen, the closet, and get your kids back from daycare because you won't need that anymore, and there will be a LOT of kids, because abortion is reversing, contraception is next. Drop out of grad school, do all things- backwards, because clearly boomers Moms left you a bad legacy.

Don't you have some wine to drink, Linda? No one's thanking you for anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprised to see boomers crow about how amazing and special they are lol!

No kidding. Reminds me so much of my mom who thinks she’s soooooo amazing and special and never has a kind word to say about anyone else.

We are not your Mom. Grow up.

Also, Boomer Moms are amazing. Sorry- but we are.

From the comments on this thread, it seems like many disagree with that statement.

Lol, just jealous. We did career, motherhood, friendships without Zoloft.

Haha, how old are you? Seriously, only dinosaurs sneer at medications. You do realize that swilling gin wasn’t exactly “better” than taking medication, right? Go have another cocktail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, Millennials, maybe it was all the things you might hold dear now, that ruined your childhood. Maybe it was the divorce(s), your mother working, non matrimonial relationships, achievement benchmarks, career ladders,the beginning of LGBTQ acceptance...as you say- the women before you ruined your lives. Well, I guess get back in the kitchen, the closet, and get your kids back from daycare because you won't need that anymore, and there will be a LOT of kids, because abortion is reversing, contraception is next. Drop out of grad school, do all things- backwards, because clearly boomers Moms left you a bad legacy.

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprised to see boomers crow about how amazing and special they are lol!

No kidding. Reminds me so much of my mom who thinks she’s soooooo amazing and special and never has a kind word to say about anyone else.

We are not your Mom. Grow up.

Also, Boomer Moms are amazing. Sorry- but we are.

From the comments on this thread, it seems like many disagree with that statement.

Lol, just jealous. We did career, motherhood, friendships without Zoloft.

PP you are quoting… not jealous at all. Zoloft saved my life postpartum. I’m beyond thankful to have the option to have it. Actually got me back in the workforce you keep harping on. I WISH my mom was on some sort of anti anxiety/depression medication. I think a whole other world would open up to her, maybe even a good relationship with her daughter.

This isn’t the flex you think it is. Continues to show the narrow mindedness of your generation.

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I love how Linda thinks self-medicating with gin and gossiping with her Fox-transfixed friends about her failed marriage is better than taking Zoloft and talking to a therapist. Dried up and bitter, not a good look.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how Linda thinks self-medicating with gin and gossiping with her Fox-transfixed friends about her failed marriage is better than taking Zoloft and talking to a therapist. Dried up and bitter, not a good look.

Not Linda. I am a Boomer.
Not watching Fox News.
Advocating daily for reproductive rights, gun control, and getting Republicans out of office.
My friends in bad marriages divorced.
My marriage is fine, thanks.
Nope, didn't need Zoloft to do anything up to now.
I teach, write, produce, and run a business.
Happy healthy millennial kids.

But- you see, you are still defining a generation inaccurately you don't understand at all. And- still blaming your problems on that generation. Glad you are in therapy, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprised to see boomers crow about how amazing and special they are lol!

No kidding. Reminds me so much of my mom who thinks she’s soooooo amazing and special and never has a kind word to say about anyone else.

We are not your Mom. Grow up.

Also, Boomer Moms are amazing. Sorry- but we are.

From the comments on this thread, it seems like many disagree with that statement.

Lol, just jealous. We did career, motherhood, friendships without Zoloft.

Haha, how old are you? Seriously, only dinosaurs sneer at medications. You do realize that swilling gin wasn’t exactly “better” than taking medication, right? Go have another cocktail.

Don't drink. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprised to see boomers crow about how amazing and special they are lol!

No kidding. Reminds me so much of my mom who thinks she’s soooooo amazing and special and never has a kind word to say about anyone else.

We are not your Mom. Grow up.

Also, Boomer Moms are amazing. Sorry- but we are.

From the comments on this thread, it seems like many disagree with that statement.

Lol, just jealous. We did career, motherhood, friendships without Zoloft.

Haha, how old are you? Seriously, only dinosaurs sneer at medications. You do realize that swilling gin wasn’t exactly “better” than taking medication, right? Go have another cocktail.

Don't drink. Sorry.

Oh well. Still bitter, past your prime, and mad that the world wants nothing to do with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprised to see boomers crow about how amazing and special they are lol!

No kidding. Reminds me so much of my mom who thinks she’s soooooo amazing and special and never has a kind word to say about anyone else.

We are not your Mom. Grow up.

Also, Boomer Moms are amazing. Sorry- but we are.

From the comments on this thread, it seems like many disagree with that statement.

Lol, just jealous. We did career, motherhood, friendships without Zoloft.

Haha, how old are you? Seriously, only dinosaurs sneer at medications. You do realize that swilling gin wasn’t exactly “better” than taking medication, right? Go have another cocktail.

Don't drink. Sorry.

Oh well. Still bitter, past your prime, and mad that the world wants nothing to do with you.

Bless your heart.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how Linda thinks self-medicating with gin and gossiping with her Fox-transfixed friends about her failed marriage is better than taking Zoloft and talking to a therapist. Dried up and bitter, not a good look.

Not Linda. I am a Boomer.
Not watching Fox News.
Advocating daily for reproductive rights, gun control, and getting Republicans out of office.
My friends in bad marriages divorced.
My marriage is fine, thanks.
Nope, didn't need Zoloft to do anything up to now.
I teach, write, produce, and run a business.
Happy healthy millennial kids.

But- you see, you are still defining a generation inaccurately you don't understand at all. And- still blaming your problems on that generation. Glad you are in therapy, though.

Hey Karen, you’re just proving everyone’s point each time you post

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprised to see boomers crow about how amazing and special they are lol!

No kidding. Reminds me so much of my mom who thinks she’s soooooo amazing and special and never has a kind word to say about anyone else.

We are not your Mom. Grow up.

Also, Boomer Moms are amazing. Sorry- but we are.

From the comments on this thread, it seems like many disagree with that statement.

Lol, just jealous. We did career, motherhood, friendships without Zoloft.

Haha, how old are you? Seriously, only dinosaurs sneer at medications. You do realize that swilling gin wasn’t exactly “better” than taking medication, right? Go have another cocktail.

Don't drink. Sorry.

Regardless, you’re a pretty crappy person to look down in medications like Zoloft. That’s awesome you never needed it, but many of all generations do. Again, you’re extrapolating your experience to be indicative of your entire generation.

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Anonymous wrote:OP clearly has a blind spot toward her own behaviors. All 3 kids? She thinks they are spoiled but takes no blame? Describes herself in positive ways and everyone else in negative ways. She’s the problem.

Boomer women didn’t work and did far, far less kid centric things than millennials do today. Their identities were tied to their husband, his work, friends and having kids. As those things have slipped away with time , they seem very empty and are forcing themselves are their adult children.

I’m GenX and see it with our boomer parents and their siblings. Not a one did anything more than a card or call on Mother’s Day for their mothers but boy do they still demand a full on celebration of them on Mother’s Day. As GenX we just ignore it or appease them but I see my millennial younger cousins being much less tolerant of the behavior.

You could not be more wrong here. You have your generations mixed up. Boomer women were the first to be in the work force fully, and they were expected to be in the work force- not a choice thing. We broke glass ceilings in the work force, established work policies for women in while in the work force, expected to take on male dominated STEM field roles with less pay, expected to manage daycare effortlessly, fought off misogynistic practices, sexual abuse and workplace harassment, and as they said over and over in ads and songs: " She brings home the bacon and fries it up in a pan."

Our identities were not tied to our spouse and women were frowned upon if they did. Many of us married later, had kids later, and we were the first generation to normalize divorce. We were the first to keep our names. We had our own accts.

I am 66. I have friends in the age group going towards 75. Some a little older. No one was a stay at home wife and mother. All socioeconomic levels, all income levels.

It does seem like PP is wrong, but I think these ideas did Boomer women a disservice. I can't get Betty Friedan's statement about SAHMs being parasites out of my head. I don't think being a SAHM is some kind of feminist act but I think most of us recognize now that it is a good choice for some women and it's awful to shame women for making that choice. And the idea that you were expected to bring home the bacon and fry it up in the pan is sad too. My heart really goes out to Boomer women (and Gen X women) who aspired to do it all, which usually required having low expectations for men when it came to childcare and housekeeping. Yes, Gloria Steinem said that women need men like a fish needs a bicycle, but many women chose men anyway because companionship is important too and they just dealt with the household inequities.

So, yes, Boomer women, thank you for the very real progress you made for women, and sorry you had to do it all.

I think what really is going on with the whole "Boomers want a thank you, Millennials want an apology" is that Boomers were treated badly by their parents too, but the idea of just dealing with it because we need to respect our parents just by virtual of them being our parents was still around. Now we have this idea that we aren't obligated to deal with mistreatment just because of family ties. We also tend to want more emotional connection in our relationships, and let's face it: it's hard to have emotional connection when you haven't repaired harm done. I know the analogy is a little strained, but I think about marriages where one partner has had an affair. What I see happen (if the affair came to light but there was no divorce) is one of two things: the couple detaches (or remains detached) emotionally and just tolerate each other as roommates, or they go to therapy, the wayward spouse expresses remorse, the betrayed spouse forgives, and eventually the relationship comes out stronger because of it. The majority of millennials who ask for an apology from their parents want to repair that relationship and have a deeper connection because that is what our society values more right now. And the Boomer parents think "I tolerated this in my parents, why can't you do the same?"

There are a lot of instances where people say "I will never be like my parents!" and then change their minds when they have kids, but I don't think that this will be the case with a refusal to apologize to kids. In fact I don't think I've seen a millennial who has adult children refuse to apologize for parenting mistakes unless they are pretty emotionally stunted.

The oldest Millennials would be early 40s, 41 to be exact. They dont have adult children yet. Come on.
And no, this generation's amazing self absorption, narcissism, and lack of enpathy, need to brand, will not be generating apologies to anyone (!) I can guarantee that. Lol.

Yes some do have adult children. People frequently have kids at age 23. I am 40 and I have a 16-year old. If I suddenly stop being capable of self-reflection, humility, and empathy and refuse to apologize to my kid, I’ll let you know and you can say I told you so.

Right. I'm 41 and while I only have a 7 year old, I know people my age who have kids graduating high school or in college. Regardless, I always apologize to my child when I've done something wrong and I know most of my friends parent similarly. My parents have never ONCE apologized to me

What should they apologize for? Explain

Obviously, this is going to be different for every situation. All unhappy families are unhappy for different reasons. But if you want a sampling, I’m a millennial and here are the things my parents have apologized for:

Dad: being too controlling, spanking us every once in a while, letting us live with our mom in an unsafe home environment for too long.

Mom: not being able to give us a safe home environment, yelling at us constantly, blaming us for her problems, being too permissive.

Oh goodie, one parent was “too permissive” yet was “yelling at us” and the other parent the. Had to be “too controlling” and discipline us.

And you grew up entitled and demanded an apology for being a spoilt brat who wouldn’t listen to parents.

Can’t wait to see your parenting and kids come age 18.

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprised to see boomers crow about how amazing and special they are lol!

No kidding. Reminds me so much of my mom who thinks she’s soooooo amazing and special and never has a kind word to say about anyone else.

We are not your Mom. Grow up.

Also, Boomer Moms are amazing. Sorry- but we are.

From the comments on this thread, it seems like many disagree with that statement.

Lol, just jealous. We did career, motherhood, friendships without Zoloft.

Haha, how old are you? Seriously, only dinosaurs sneer at medications. You do realize that swilling gin wasn’t exactly “better” than taking medication, right? Go have another cocktail.

Don't drink. Sorry.

Regardless, you’re a pretty crappy person to look down in medications like Zoloft. That’s awesome you never needed it, but many of all generations do. Again, you’re extrapolating your experience to be indicative of your entire generation.

Millennial here. The very disarming way I've seen Gen Z approach generational differences around what we accept as normal is to say something like "it's not ok that you had to go through that without help and I'm really sorry you had that experience," with full sincerity. Just like wow, how the mood shifts when they bring empathy instead of defensiveness.

So yes, I'm sorry for so many women who struggled through life because they didn't have medical tools like Zoloft when they needed them. I know I would have benefited from treatment for anxiety as a kid instead of defining it as "my personality," but that wasn't a thing then. I'm glad those things are getting better.

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I am a naturalized citizen and came here from Europe in the early 90s. All of the women in my country worked, mom, aunts, and parents' friends.
In the U.S., except one woman that I know(people who are the age of moms to DH) worked. Just one. This was in Colorado. Some dads might have been a few years older than Boomers, but all moms were boomers and SAHMs.
The one that worked ran a daycare center. Even one of my SIL's(DH's brother's wife) aunt in Vermont did not work.
And Boomer men mocked my DH's grandma for going back to school and getting a college degree and being a librarian.
Certainly, people I know in CO are not New York City women, but I would think they are a decent representative of MC, and UMC women.
So, where were these trailblazing Boomer women, is that I would like to know.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how Linda thinks self-medicating with gin and gossiping with her Fox-transfixed friends about her failed marriage is better than taking Zoloft and talking to a therapist. Dried up and bitter, not a good look.

Not Linda. I am a Boomer.
Not watching Fox News.
Advocating daily for reproductive rights, gun control, and getting Republicans out of office.
My friends in bad marriages divorced.
My marriage is fine, thanks.
Nope, didn't need Zoloft to do anything up to now.
I teach, write, produce, and run a business.
Happy healthy millennial kids.

But- you see, you are still defining a generation inaccurately you don't understand at all. And- still blaming your problems on that generation. Glad you are in therapy, though.

DP. Not sure if you posted the long screed. It is factually inaccurate to imply that boomer heterosexual women started the beginnings of the gay rights movement.