Taylor Swift is awful (and her music isn't even very good)

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Anonymous wrote:It's OK. Personally I find Beyonce annoying and talentless, and can't stand that she acts like she's high class while constantly surrounding herself with thugs, but others seem to like her.

No, Beyoncé is actually genuinely talented even if you don't like her music. For one, unlike Taylor Swift, she can dance.

Twerking like Beyonce does isn't talent. And her songs are totally forgettable.

I don’t like Beyoncé really or her image but her talent is obviously singing. She has one of the best voices of any modern singer. Tremendous range, rich tone. Just very special. It’s a shame that she doesn’t showcase in her current music.

What?! She can't sing at all and her voice is so basic and mediocre. Alicia Keys and Miley Cyrus have gorgeous mezzo-soprano voices. Amy Winehouse, Mahalia Jackson for contralto. The best of the best are the old school former gospel singers: Aretha, Sam Cooke, Little Richard

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Anonymous wrote:This is old but I just came across it and it sums up everything I can't stand about Taylor Swift:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/reputation-reveals-a-taylor-swift-obsessed-with-fame-money-and-revenge?ref=scroll

I know this will provoke a bunch of Swifties to come and yell at me and say I'm a misogyinist, just jealous, or demand to know why I can't just let other people love things. So I'll defend myself in advance even though I know it won't matter:

1) Criticizing Taylor Swift is not misogyny but she works hard to make sure it looks that way by embracing a very specific brand of girl-power feminism so that if people criticize her, she can play the victim. It's a kind of feminism available only to pretty, rich white women with lots of pretty, rich female friends. Also, don't yell at me for criticizing someone who is "young" and "still learning." She's 32. She likes to play the victim and pretend she's just a teenage nerd with no friends, but as the link above discusses, this is an act designed to garner sympathy and, most importantly, sales.

2) I probably am jealous. But I'm not JUST jealous. I also have a point.

3) People can like whatever they want but I can also dislike whatever I want, and I really, really dislike Taylor Swift and needed to share it with the world today.

OP, is that you, Kanye?

Okay, since we are sharing with the world today.. TS is white and good looking and I'm guessing that you are not. So, move on.

NP this is where you have it totally wrong. The majority of peoole who dont like her music or the persona she's created are , in fact, whites. Minorities don't care about her music and don’t have the intense emotional innvolment that perps like you have when it comes to swift. Look at the crowds at her concerts,it looks like daughters of kkk members convention.

See? Here we are again with insinuations of racism. Not the crowd looks like the concert is in Sweden, but the daughters of the KKK. It really is insidious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is Courtney Barnett?

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is Courtney Barnett?

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Check her out — she’s great!

I like her and Taylor Swift.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's OK. Personally I find Beyonce annoying and talentless, and can't stand that she acts like she's high class while constantly surrounding herself with thugs, but others seem to like her.

No, Beyoncé is actually genuinely talented even if you don't like her music. For one, unlike Taylor Swift, she can dance.

Twerking like Beyonce does isn't talent. And her songs are totally forgettable.

I don’t like Beyoncé really or her image but her talent is obviously singing. She has one of the best voices of any modern singer. Tremendous range, rich tone. Just very special. It’s a shame that she doesn’t showcase in her current music.

What?! She can't sing at all and her voice is so basic and mediocre. Alicia Keys and Miley Cyrus have gorgeous mezzo-soprano voices. Amy Winehouse, Mahalia Jackson for contralto. The best of the best are the old school former gospel singers: Aretha, Sam Cooke, Little Richard

Did you really just say that Beyoncé can’t sing at all? SMDH, y’all are crazy. No accounting for taste, clearly.

[Anonymous]

This is all I need to see in an article to know that the author has an agenda:

“She preaches female friendship but would never risk album sales with overtly feminist activity.”

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Anonymous wrote:This is all I need to see in an article to know that the author has an agenda:

“She preaches female friendship but would never risk album sales with overtly feminist activity.”

I think it's a reference to the fact that Swift has been very mum on most major feminist issues, including abortion. She also didn't say much of anything against Trump until like 2020, which is... late.

She has become a bit more political in recent years but is still super cautious. Like she she has supported the March for Our Lives, and has made some comments in support of both the LGBTQ+ community and eventually did denounce Trump and said she supported the protests that broke out after George Floyd's murder. Which is all good but still not overtly feminist.

But she's most likely to invoke feminism when it concerns something that directly involves her. I was glad to see she at least came out against the Supreme Court overturning Roe but honestly, until then I suspected she was not pro-choice because she had been weirdly mum on the subject for such a prominent woman with so many fans who are directly impacted by the loss of abortion access.

That article is a little dated and I think pre-dates a lot of the the things I've mentioned here. Perhaps she's become more vocal due to this kind of criticism. But even that seems cynical. Most people if given a massive platform would want to speak out on issues that are important to them. Instead it feels like Taylor mostly speaks to advocate for herself and wants people to view her as an avatar for all women. But that's very different than how many other celebrities use their fame to draw attention to people who are much less fortunate than them and rally support for issues or programs that don't necessarily stand to benefit them personally.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is all I need to see in an article to know that the author has an agenda:

“She preaches female friendship but would never risk album sales with overtly feminist activity.”

I think it's a reference to the fact that Swift has been very mum on most major feminist issues, including abortion. She also didn't say much of anything against Trump until like 2020, which is... late.

She has become a bit more political in recent years but is still super cautious. Like she she has supported the March for Our Lives, and has made some comments in support of both the LGBTQ+ community and eventually did denounce Trump and said she supported the protests that broke out after George Floyd's murder. Which is all good but still not overtly feminist.

But she's most likely to invoke feminism when it concerns something that directly involves her. I was glad to see she at least came out against the Supreme Court overturning Roe but honestly, until then I suspected she was not pro-choice because she had been weirdly mum on the subject for such a prominent woman with so many fans who are directly impacted by the loss of abortion access.

That article is a little dated and I think pre-dates a lot of the the things I've mentioned here. Perhaps she's become more vocal due to this kind of criticism. But even that seems cynical. Most people if given a massive platform would want to speak out on issues that are important to them. Instead it feels like Taylor mostly speaks to advocate for herself and wants people to view her as an avatar for all women. But that's very different than how many other celebrities use their fame to draw attention to people who are much less fortunate than them and rally support for issues or programs that don't necessarily stand to benefit them personally.

I agree that she waited too long to take a stand politically, but I understand why someone still beloved by country radio would be hesitant. Remember what happened with the Dixie Chicks. I don’t think she needs to be an activist but glad she has voiced her opinion on the most prominent issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is all I need to see in an article to know that the author has an agenda:

“She preaches female friendship but would never risk album sales with overtly feminist activity.”

I think it's a reference to the fact that Swift has been very mum on most major feminist issues, including abortion. She also didn't say much of anything against Trump until like 2020, which is... late.

She has become a bit more political in recent years but is still super cautious. Like she she has supported the March for Our Lives, and has made some comments in support of both the LGBTQ+ community and eventually did denounce Trump and said she supported the protests that broke out after George Floyd's murder. Which is all good but still not overtly feminist.

But she's most likely to invoke feminism when it concerns something that directly involves her. I was glad to see she at least came out against the Supreme Court overturning Roe but honestly, until then I suspected she was not pro-choice because she had been weirdly mum on the subject for such a prominent woman with so many fans who are directly impacted by the loss of abortion access.

That article is a little dated and I think pre-dates a lot of the the things I've mentioned here. Perhaps she's become more vocal due to this kind of criticism. But even that seems cynical. Most people if given a massive platform would want to speak out on issues that are important to them. Instead it feels like Taylor mostly speaks to advocate for herself and wants people to view her as an avatar for all women. But that's very different than how many other celebrities use their fame to draw attention to people who are much less fortunate than them and rally support for issues or programs that don't necessarily stand to benefit them personally.

I agree that she waited too long to take a stand politically, but I understand why someone still beloved by country radio would be hesitant. Remember what happened with the Dixie Chicks. I don’t think she needs to be an activist but glad she has voiced her opinion on the most prominent issues.

Yes but the criticism is that she was silent on political issues but would invoke feminism because she felt Katy Perry was mean to her. That’s precisely the point— when you won’t stand up for a single feminist cause but will accuse other women of being insufficiently feminist when they don’t do things that personally benefit you is really obnoxious. Especially when part of your brand is this about womens’ empowerment. It’s comes of as deeply cynical and very self-serving.

Criticizing Trump for the first time in 2020 is REALLY embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all I need to see in an article to know that the author has an agenda:

“She preaches female friendship but would never risk album sales with overtly feminist activity.”

I think it's a reference to the fact that Swift has been very mum on most major feminist issues, including abortion. She also didn't say much of anything against Trump until like 2020, which is... late.

She has become a bit more political in recent years but is still super cautious. Like she she has supported the March for Our Lives, and has made some comments in support of both the LGBTQ+ community and eventually did denounce Trump and said she supported the protests that broke out after George Floyd's murder. Which is all good but still not overtly feminist.

But she's most likely to invoke feminism when it concerns something that directly involves her. I was glad to see she at least came out against the Supreme Court overturning Roe but honestly, until then I suspected she was not pro-choice because she had been weirdly mum on the subject for such a prominent woman with so many fans who are directly impacted by the loss of abortion access.

That article is a little dated and I think pre-dates a lot of the the things I've mentioned here. Perhaps she's become more vocal due to this kind of criticism. But even that seems cynical. Most people if given a massive platform would want to speak out on issues that are important to them. Instead it feels like Taylor mostly speaks to advocate for herself and wants people to view her as an avatar for all women. But that's very different than how many other celebrities use their fame to draw attention to people who are much less fortunate than them and rally support for issues or programs that don't necessarily stand to benefit them personally.

I agree that she waited too long to take a stand politically, but I understand why someone still beloved by country radio would be hesitant. Remember what happened with the Dixie Chicks. I don’t think she needs to be an activist but glad she has voiced her opinion on the most prominent issues.

Yes but the criticism is that she was silent on political issues but would invoke feminism because she felt Katy Perry was mean to her. That’s precisely the point— when you won’t stand up for a single feminist cause but will accuse other women of being insufficiently feminist when they don’t do things that personally benefit you is really obnoxious. Especially when part of your brand is this about womens’ empowerment. It’s comes of as deeply cynical and very self-serving.

Criticizing Trump for the first time in 2020 is REALLY embarrassing.

I consider myself a fan but don’t know much about the Swift/Perry feud. Akaik, neither confirmed the fight until they showed up in Swift’s music video together. And who knows if that was an actual reconciliation or if they were capitalizing on fan theories. You—a person who dislikes Swift—clearly pays more attention than I do!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's OK. Personally I find Beyonce annoying and talentless, and can't stand that she acts like she's high class while constantly surrounding herself with thugs, but others seem to like her.

No, Beyoncé is actually genuinely talented even if you don't like her music. For one, unlike Taylor Swift, she can dance.

Twerking like Beyonce does isn't talent. And her songs are totally forgettable.

I don’t like Beyoncé really or her image but her talent is obviously singing. She has one of the best voices of any modern singer. Tremendous range, rich tone. Just very special. It’s a shame that she doesn’t showcase in her current music.

What?! She can't sing at all and her voice is so basic and mediocre. Alicia Keys and Miley Cyrus have gorgeous mezzo-soprano voices. Amy Winehouse, Mahalia Jackson for contralto. The best of the best are the old school former gospel singers: Aretha, Sam Cooke, Little Richard

Did you really just say that Beyoncé can’t sing at all? SMDH, y’all are crazy. No accounting for taste, clearly.

Yeah, Miley Cyrus better than Beyoncé? I love Miley and I’m an ardent defender of her talent, but come on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's OK. Personally I find Beyonce annoying and talentless, and can't stand that she acts like she's high class while constantly surrounding herself with thugs, but others seem to like her.

No, Beyoncé is actually genuinely talented even if you don't like her music. For one, unlike Taylor Swift, she can dance.

Twerking like Beyonce does isn't talent. And her songs are totally forgettable.

I don’t like Beyoncé really or her image but her talent is obviously singing. She has one of the best voices of any modern singer. Tremendous range, rich tone. Just very special. It’s a shame that she doesn’t showcase in her current music.

What?! She can't sing at all and her voice is so basic and mediocre. Alicia Keys and Miley Cyrus have gorgeous mezzo-soprano voices. Amy Winehouse, Mahalia Jackson for contralto. The best of the best are the old school former gospel singers: Aretha, Sam Cooke, Little Richard

Did you really just say that Beyoncé can’t sing at all? SMDH, y’all are crazy. No accounting for taste, clearly.

Anyone who thinks Beyoncé can’t sing knows nothing about vocal talent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is old but I just came across it and it sums up everything I can't stand about Taylor Swift:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/reputation-reveals-a-taylor-swift-obsessed-with-fame-money-and-revenge?ref=scroll

I know this will provoke a bunch of Swifties to come and yell at me and say I'm a misogyinist, just jealous, or demand to know why I can't just let other people love things. So I'll defend myself in advance even though I know it won't matter:

1) Criticizing Taylor Swift is not misogyny but she works hard to make sure it looks that way by embracing a very specific brand of girl-power feminism so that if people criticize her, she can play the victim. It's a kind of feminism available only to pretty, rich white women with lots of pretty, rich female friends. Also, don't yell at me for criticizing someone who is "young" and "still learning." She's 32. She likes to play the victim and pretend she's just a teenage nerd with no friends, but as the link above discusses, this is an act designed to garner sympathy and, most importantly, sales.

2) I probably am jealous. But I'm not JUST jealous. I also have a point.

3) People can like whatever they want but I can also dislike whatever I want, and I really, really dislike Taylor Swift and needed to share it with the world today.

OP, is that you, Kanye?

Okay, since we are sharing with the world today.. TS is white and good looking and I'm guessing that you are not. So, move on.

What a nasty racist comment. It’s not like everyone who doesn’t like her is nonwhite and ugly, and they’re correlated. She isn’t even good looking to many people, whites included.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:lol. Taylor Swift had already sold like 100 million records before she ever met Jack Antonoff. You people are hilarious.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all I need to see in an article to know that the author has an agenda:

“She preaches female friendship but would never risk album sales with overtly feminist activity.”

I think it's a reference to the fact that Swift has been very mum on most major feminist issues, including abortion. She also didn't say much of anything against Trump until like 2020, which is... late.

She has become a bit more political in recent years but is still super cautious. Like she she has supported the March for Our Lives, and has made some comments in support of both the LGBTQ+ community and eventually did denounce Trump and said she supported the protests that broke out after George Floyd's murder. Which is all good but still not overtly feminist.

But she's most likely to invoke feminism when it concerns something that directly involves her. I was glad to see she at least came out against the Supreme Court overturning Roe but honestly, until then I suspected she was not pro-choice because she had been weirdly mum on the subject for such a prominent woman with so many fans who are directly impacted by the loss of abortion access.

That article is a little dated and I think pre-dates a lot of the the things I've mentioned here. Perhaps she's become more vocal due to this kind of criticism. But even that seems cynical. Most people if given a massive platform would want to speak out on issues that are important to them. Instead it feels like Taylor mostly speaks to advocate for herself and wants people to view her as an avatar for all women. But that's very different than how many other celebrities use their fame to draw attention to people who are much less fortunate than them and rally support for issues or programs that don't necessarily stand to benefit them personally.

That’s a long-winded explanation for ‘the author is a feminist herself, and holds disdain for those who she perceived isn’t ‘feminist enough’