TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

Of course it isn’t evenly spread across the county. The immigrants who come to this country for professional jobs are going to have higher educational background and skills than the average person in their home country. It’s not surprising their children would be over represented at TJ.

The ne admissions policy fiddled with the numbers to get a desired outcome. It didn’t try to admit the most interested and ready kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

Exactly. LMAO at all these morons that think spending money magically makes your kid smart. Why do you think even poor kids in China score higher on IQ tests than middle class students in the US? Spending money doesn't magically develop neural pathways. In fact, education research for decades has found very very weak effects of money spent per student (in the U.S.) on future success. We certainly are spending more money now than ever before, and a disproportionate amount of it in poor areas and on poor children. Have we become more successful, or smarter, in the past 50 years? nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

Exactly. LMAO at all these morons that think spending money magically makes your kid smart. Why do you think even poor kids in China score higher on IQ tests than middle class students in the US? Spending money doesn't magically develop neural pathways. In fact, education research for decades has found very very weak effects of money spent per student (in the U.S.) on future success. We certainly are spending more money now than ever before, and a disproportionate amount of it in poor areas and on poor children. Have we become more successful, or smarter, in the past 50 years? nope.

*Just to clarify I mean that poor areas receive more federal subsidies - it does not offset the higher tax revenues and spending in richer districts. But again, research shows that spending money does very little to improve student success

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

I think you make a lot of assumptions and just keep pulling these numbers out of your ass. Originally it was the Loudoun parents sending their kids to one prep center that had you upset but then you moved on to implying all the parents at the top feeders were spending even larger sums on test prep with no clear evidence to support it. Just admit you want seats taken away from certain schools because you despise hard work, achievement, and merit. The only mystery is why, with such a nihilistic, resentful agenda, you’re willing to keep TJ open at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

So you think Donald Trump is a genius? Keep telling yourself this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

Exactly. LMAO at all these morons that think spending money magically makes your kid smart. Why do you think even poor kids in China score higher on IQ tests than middle class students in the US? Spending money doesn't magically develop neural pathways. In fact, education research for decades has found very very weak effects of money spent per student (in the U.S.) on future success. We certainly are spending more money now than ever before, and a disproportionate amount of it in poor areas and on poor children. Have we become more successful, or smarter, in the past 50 years? nope.

So you're trying to tell me that buying the test answers in advance isn't an advantage? You got to be kidding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.

All those embarrassed cheaters who tried to lie their way into TJ and then bragged about admission? Are we supposed to feel bad for them?

Not really, but neither should one necessarily feel special respect for kids whose families rely on state or federal assistance for food and shelter.

I have a lot more respect for kids who manage to do well in school despite poverty than strivers who try to cheat

+100 A child who manages to qualify for TJ despite experiencing poverty and/or food insecurity, and certainly without discretionary income for enrichment/tutoring, is by definition going to have the grit to do more with the opportunity than a child who has been groomed for this application since 3rd grade.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guarantee that there are parents of admitted students hiring lawyers to respond. FCPS caused this situation by not asking the question clearly for two years in a row despite many parents pointing out the issues.

If admitted parents band together, I don’t see how FCPS can fight them affectively. There are statements on the FCPS website, in email blasts and in news bulletins from school board members. Many of these contain the words “all students are eligible for free meals”.

The TJ admissions office should have done their jobs and figured out a solution BEFORE sending out offers. Not after the sh!t is already out of the horse.

So you’re saying you are among those who misled TJ admissions?

Sounds like it. If parents “band together” or seek to address the issue through legal means they will be publicly known. How would you like everyone to know that you live in a $1.6 million dollar home but are claiming ignorance on the question?

Blah blah blah

Hahaha. Sorry, rich lying mommies. You lose!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[b]Please God, now can we shut down TJ? Or change it to an academy where any student can take classes? [b]

This admissions fight will NEVER end. Full stop.

It’s doesn’t matter what the school board does or does not do, it’s a zero sum game and people will continue to fight each other to get a slice of very limited academic resources. Why make it that way? TJ sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. It divides people. There are no classes for 9th/10th graders that could not be taken at a base school. The other 99.9% of FCPS students deserve better.

No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.

All those embarrassed cheaters who tried to lie their way into TJ and then bragged about admission? Are we supposed to feel bad for them?

Not really, but neither should one necessarily feel special respect for kids whose families rely on state or federal assistance for food and shelter.

I have a lot more respect for kids who manage to do well in school despite poverty than strivers who try to cheat

+100 A child who manages to qualify for TJ despite experiencing poverty and/or food insecurity, and certainly without discretionary income for enrichment/tutoring, is by definition going to have the grit to do more with the opportunity than a child who has been groomed for this application since 3rd grade.

+1000

I love how the FCDC party loyalists keep using the somewhat salacious term “grooming” to describe parents who take an interest in their kids’ education. I’m sure that will work out well for you come election time next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.

All those embarrassed cheaters who tried to lie their way into TJ and then bragged about admission? Are we supposed to feel bad for them?

Not really, but neither should one necessarily feel special respect for kids whose families rely on state or federal assistance for food and shelter.

I have a lot more respect for kids who manage to do well in school despite poverty than strivers who try to cheat

What a pathetic, tone deaf, privileged response. Peak DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.

All those embarrassed cheaters who tried to lie their way into TJ and then bragged about admission? Are we supposed to feel bad for them?

Not really, but neither should one necessarily feel special respect for kids whose families rely on state or federal assistance for food and shelter.

I have a lot more respect for kids who manage to do well in school despite poverty than strivers who try to cheat

What a pathetic, tone deaf, privileged response. Peak DCUM.

Ugh, sorry PP. That was unclear. I was referring to the post you quoted, not you, and agreeing with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[b]Please God, now can we shut down TJ? Or change it to an academy where any student can take classes? [b]

This admissions fight will NEVER end. Full stop.

It’s doesn’t matter what the school board does or does not do, it’s a zero sum game and people will continue to fight each other to get a slice of very limited academic resources. Why make it that way? TJ sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. It divides people. There are no classes for 9th/10th graders that could not be taken at a base school. The other 99.9% of FCPS students deserve better.

No.

And so, once the curtain is lifted, we see that the C4TJ and the TJAAG, while locked in perpetual combat, in fact are united in their desire to keep TJ the near-exclusive focus of FCPS attention, to the detriment of everyone else in the county.