Youngkin: cancel minimum wage hike, cut early voting, expand open carry

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Anonymous wrote:To the person complaining that it takes way too much time and effort to get a license renewed - yes, it does. But you acting like it’s some kind of impossible task only makes people take you even less seriously.

Everyone needs a state-issued ID. Everyone dreads the DMV. Doesn’t really matter. Quit complaining and do what needs to be done.

I’m just pointing out that it’s not a trivial task. Especially the Real ID.

And I am lucky enough to have a car & money. And I can track down the various documents required for the Real ID. And while it’s a pain to schedule time off of work I can get time off of work. It’s possibly an extremely challenging task for some people.

Also, I haven’t had a valid ID in almost 2 years. You don’t “need” a valid gov’t ID.

Interesting. I guess you never see the doctor? Buy alcohol? Rent a car? Board a plane? Stay at hotels?

Not in the last 2 years.

My passport is expired too.

All my identifying documents have expired. Why won't you just take my word? /s

I have no reason to lie. They weren’t expired when I set out on my journey to get a new license in 2020.

I assure you: no one cares about this sob story of yours. We've all had to put up with inconveniences to renew our licenses, obtain ID, etc. You are not special, but you certainly are a whiner. From the VA DMV: "Wednesdays are now walk-in days! Walk in for service Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Saturday (in offices with Saturday hours). Appointment-only service is available on Mondays and Fridays. Plan your visit today!"

If you can't manage that, there is something seriously wrong with your organizational skills.
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My entire point is that it is not a trivial task. Especially in certain circumstances. It has been a huge burden, even for me - and I have a car, computer, mortgage, etc.

Let me get this right: It’s too much to expect everyone to get an ID to vote (doesn’t have to be a driver’s license), but EVERYONE has to have a vaccine card proving they’ve been vaccinated at least twice (and some counties want to have vaccine passports)?

What does one have to do with the other?

I mean, your pretzel logic is puzzling.

I have an idea. Since we’re demanding IDs to vote, you should need to carry a special ID to own a firearm. Failure to produce it on demand of any private citizen should result in confiscation of the gun and imprisonment.

Yeah, that’s called a license and it’s already required to legally own a firearm.

It isn’t a photo ID. You should be required to have a photo ID license on you at all times and have to produce it on demand to anyone who asks. One for each gun.

Anyone who asks?

Like you?


Eh, I don’t mind.


But I hope you’vd got plenty of time when you demand to see my license. I own nearly 300 guns. It might take a while to show you each license.

You carry all of them around with you?

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Anonymous wrote:I am a poll worker. This misunderstanding and confusion about voter ID drives me nuts.

We already have voter ID. It's your signature. When you sign the voter rolls you are attesting your identity and right to vote.

The only way to fake those votes is to forge hundreds and thousands of signatures, and do it so well that the forgeries pass the intense scrutiny of poll workers and poll watchers.

Picture ID requirements will add literally NOTHING to election security. These proposals are just more fodder for the sheeple who have no idea how elections actually work and are therefore easy to lie to.

Then why do poll workers ask for ID?

Also, could you clarify what you mean? I don’t sign anything when I vote. I’m not sure what you mean about checking for forgeries. Could you explain?

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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!

Are you saying I don’t have a right to eat at a restaurant?

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Anonymous wrote:He’s going to be such a shitty governor. He’s determined to drive us down with the likes of West Virginia and Kentucky.

Please return to your lair under the bridge and allow the adults to talk.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a poll worker. This misunderstanding and confusion about voter ID drives me nuts.

We already have voter ID. It's your signature. When you sign the voter rolls you are attesting your identity and right to vote.

The only way to fake those votes is to forge hundreds and thousands of signatures, and do it so well that the forgeries pass the intense scrutiny of poll workers and poll watchers.

Picture ID requirements will add literally NOTHING to election security. These proposals are just more fodder for the sheeple who have no idea how elections actually work and are therefore easy to lie to.

Then why do poll workers ask for ID?

Also, could you clarify what you mean? I don’t sign anything when I vote. I’m not sure what you mean about checking for forgeries. Could you explain?

Same here. Never signed anything while voting, but was asked for my ID.

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Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

They are lazy and racist. Everytime this comes up they claim the inconvenience too great and POC can't handle obtaining documents like birth certificates. The DMV gives you a checklist of docs you need, it's really quite simple

I’m not old or poor and it has been a huge PITA for me.

The GOP is pretty transparent about its effort to disenfranchise D voters across the board. They realize they can only win by taking away votes from eligible voters. And throwing away results they don’t like.

I guess it is a PITA to go online to request a copy of your birth certificate and marriage license. Previous generations were able to handle 3-4 hour in-person waits managing to get ID without even the internet. But I hope you understand not everyone, especially POC, have the same issues you seem to have with following directions.

That was a drivers license. I know it is hard for someone like yourself to understand the difference between a drivers license and a National ID? There is no voting fraud but because of people like you we need to reinvent a system that is working fine. It makes it harder to vote. The only reason you want for making it harder to vote is to suppress the vote. Conservatives just want to rule by dictate.

DP. I think it's hilarious that liberals such as yourself insist that obtaining an ID - something everyone should have anyway - is just too hard. Spare us all. No one is "making it harder to vote." You sound absolutely inept and helpless. Get an ID and stop whining.

The fascinating part is that libs want to force everyone to be vaccinated.

What do you need to show in order to get vaccinated? An ID!!!!! I know this first hand, because I didn’t want to show my ID for my vaccination, and was told I couldn’t get it without showing ID.

So apparently everyone CAN get an ID - because you need it to get vaccinated, and every MUST get vaccinated…

But when it comes to voting, an ID is discriminatory.


Explain that one to me.

So true! I completely forgot about needing an ID to get vaccinated. Let's hear them make up some idiotic excuse about that...

No, you don’t need an ID to get vaccinated.

Yes, you do.

I went to three different places in April of last year trying to get vaccinated without having to show an ID - one in DC, a CVS in Arlington, and a vaccination clinic at Montgomery College in Germantown, MD.

After the third try, I gave up and showed my ID at the Germantown clinic.


YOU CANNOT GET VACCINATED WITHOUT ID.

I’m proof of that.

YES, YOU CAN.

If you went to any of the vaccine clinics in VA they weren’t required:

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/covid-19-faq/vaccination/
“ No, photo identification is not required for vaccination. It is important however, to have some way to confirm your identity (i.e. name, date of birth) so we can confirm that we are vaccinating the right person.

VDH recommends that vaccine providers refrain from enforcing any residency requirements by asking for identification or documentation from individuals.”

DP. And how to you propose proving your name and DOB without some form of ID? Moron.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a poll worker. This misunderstanding and confusion about voter ID drives me nuts.

We already have voter ID. It's your signature. When you sign the voter rolls you are attesting your identity and right to vote.

The only way to fake those votes is to forge hundreds and thousands of signatures, and do it so well that the forgeries pass the intense scrutiny of poll workers and poll watchers.

Picture ID requirements will add literally NOTHING to election security. These proposals are just more fodder for the sheeple who have no idea how elections actually work and are therefore easy to lie to.

Then why do poll workers ask for ID?

Also, could you clarify what you mean? I don’t sign anything when I vote. I’m not sure what you mean about checking for forgeries. Could you explain?

I am an election official in Virginia and I have never been required to ask a voter to sign the voter rolls.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a poll worker. This misunderstanding and confusion about voter ID drives me nuts.

We already have voter ID. It's your signature. When you sign the voter rolls you are attesting your identity and right to vote.

The only way to fake those votes is to forge hundreds and thousands of signatures, and do it so well that the forgeries pass the intense scrutiny of poll workers and poll watchers.

Picture ID requirements will add literally NOTHING to election security. These proposals are just more fodder for the sheeple who have no idea how elections actually work and are therefore easy to lie to.

Then why do poll workers ask for ID?

Also, could you clarify what you mean? I don’t sign anything when I vote. I’m not sure what you mean about checking for forgeries. Could you explain?

Wondering if it's jurisdictional?

I am in Loudoun. When I go to vote in person, I hand over my driver's license and recite my address to the poll workers. There's nothing I sign.

Now, when I voted by mail during the last presidential election, the ballot had the large blurb several times about making sure my signature on the ballot matched the signature on my driver's license because that was what was used to verify its authenticity and validity.

Loudoun sends out voter registration cards that shows your district and polling place, but the card has never even been collected by a poll worker in all the years I've been voting here. They can apparently be used to vote in person, though, as I just checked that on the website.

I'm all for photo IDs. I do not see the issue with this at all. I do not favor the states who pass photo ID laws and then restrict the types of acceptable photo IDs. At least Loudoun (perhaps VA) has a long list of acceptable photo IDs. I think the cost to obtain a VA ID is very cheap, too, like $2 or $5. My kid had to have one years ago for something that I can't remember. I would definitely contribute to a fund that could be used to help get more people photo IDs if/when that law passes.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a poll worker. This misunderstanding and confusion about voter ID drives me nuts.

We already have voter ID. It's your signature. When you sign the voter rolls you are attesting your identity and right to vote.

The only way to fake those votes is to forge hundreds and thousands of signatures, and do it so well that the forgeries pass the intense scrutiny of poll workers and poll watchers.

Picture ID requirements will add literally NOTHING to election security. These proposals are just more fodder for the sheeple who have no idea how elections actually work and are therefore easy to lie to.

Then why do poll workers ask for ID?

Also, could you clarify what you mean? I don’t sign anything when I vote. I’m not sure what you mean about checking for forgeries. Could you explain?

I am an election official in Virginia and I have never been required to ask a voter to sign the voter rolls.

Within the context of VA,

I think the OP here is referencing the document that voters can sign at a polling site, I think it is called the identify confirmation statement, that claims a certain identity from the voter rolls associated with that location. This has come in and out of use in Virginia. Signatures these days are of course worthless. Mine changes every time I occasionally pick up a pen.

I don't remember what signatures is used for comparison purposes.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a poll worker. This misunderstanding and confusion about voter ID drives me nuts.

We already have voter ID. It's your signature. When you sign the voter rolls you are attesting your identity and right to vote.

The only way to fake those votes is to forge hundreds and thousands of signatures, and do it so well that the forgeries pass the intense scrutiny of poll workers and poll watchers.

Picture ID requirements will add literally NOTHING to election security. These proposals are just more fodder for the sheeple who have no idea how elections actually work and are therefore easy to lie to.

Then why do poll workers ask for ID?

Also, could you clarify what you mean? I don’t sign anything when I vote. I’m not sure what you mean about checking for forgeries. Could you explain?

Wondering if it's jurisdictional?

I am in Loudoun. When I go to vote in person, I hand over my driver's license and recite my address to the poll workers. There's nothing I sign.

Now, when I voted by mail during the last presidential election, the ballot had the large blurb several times about making sure my signature on the ballot matched the signature on my driver's license because that was what was used to verify its authenticity and validity.

Loudoun sends out voter registration cards that shows your district and polling place, but the card has never even been collected by a poll worker in all the years I've been voting here. They can apparently be used to vote in person, though, as I just checked that on the website.

I'm all for photo IDs. I do not see the issue with this at all. I do not favor the states who pass photo ID laws and then restrict the types of acceptable photo IDs. At least Loudoun (perhaps VA) has a long list of acceptable photo IDs. I think the cost to obtain a VA ID is very cheap, too, like $2 or $5. My kid had to have one years ago for something that I can't remember. I would definitely contribute to a fund that could be used to help get more people photo IDs if/when that law passes.

100% I’m all in favor for helping people get an ID. But I don’t see a problem with having someone show an ID to vote.

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Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

They are lazy and racist. Everytime this comes up they claim the inconvenience too great and POC can't handle obtaining documents like birth certificates. The DMV gives you a checklist of docs you need, it's really quite simple

I’m not old or poor and it has been a huge PITA for me.

The GOP is pretty transparent about its effort to disenfranchise D voters across the board. They realize they can only win by taking away votes from eligible voters. And throwing away results they don’t like.

I guess it is a PITA to go online to request a copy of your birth certificate and marriage license. Previous generations were able to handle 3-4 hour in-person waits managing to get ID without even the internet. But I hope you understand not everyone, especially POC, have the same issues you seem to have with following directions.

That was a drivers license. I know it is hard for someone like yourself to understand the difference between a drivers license and a National ID? There is no voting fraud but because of people like you we need to reinvent a system that is working fine. It makes it harder to vote. The only reason you want for making it harder to vote is to suppress the vote. Conservatives just want to rule by dictate.

DP. I think it's hilarious that liberals such as yourself insist that obtaining an ID - something everyone should have anyway - is just too hard. Spare us all. No one is "making it harder to vote." You sound absolutely inept and helpless. Get an ID and stop whining.

The fascinating part is that libs want to force everyone to be vaccinated.

What do you need to show in order to get vaccinated? An ID!!!!! I know this first hand, because I didn’t want to show my ID for my vaccination, and was told I couldn’t get it without showing ID.

So apparently everyone CAN get an ID - because you need it to get vaccinated, and every MUST get vaccinated…

But when it comes to voting, an ID is discriminatory.


Explain that one to me.

So true! I completely forgot about needing an ID to get vaccinated. Let's hear them make up some idiotic excuse about that...

No, you don’t need an ID to get vaccinated.

Yes, you do.

I went to three different places in April of last year trying to get vaccinated without having to show an ID - one in DC, a CVS in Arlington, and a vaccination clinic at Montgomery College in Germantown, MD.

After the third try, I gave up and showed my ID at the Germantown clinic.


YOU CANNOT GET VACCINATED WITHOUT ID.

I’m proof of that.

YES, YOU CAN.

If you went to any of the vaccine clinics in VA they weren’t required:

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/covid-19-faq/vaccination/
“ No, photo identification is not required for vaccination. It is important however, to have some way to confirm your identity (i.e. name, date of birth) so we can confirm that we are vaccinating the right person.

VDH recommends that vaccine providers refrain from enforcing any residency requirements by asking for identification or documentation from individuals.”

DP. And how to you propose proving your name and DOB without some form of ID? Moron.

You don’t have to “prove” it if you go to a clinic.

[Anonymous]

This article explains what PP may have been referencing with regard to signatures

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2021/08/23/virginians-dont-have-to-show-id-to-vote-anymore-data-shows-almost-everyone-still-does/

[Anonymous]

Voter ID in VA can basically be anything that shows you are who you say you are. It can be a utility bill, work ID, state ID, even something from a club or organization.


https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/formswarehouse/voter-id/outreach-materials/documents/Voter-Identification-Chart-Rev-4-28-21.pdf

[Anonymous]

Elections have consequences. Welcome back to the 1950s, Virginia. We got the hell out after seeing the writing on the wall.

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Anonymous wrote:Elections have consequences. Welcome back to the 1950s, Virginia. We got the hell out after seeing the writing on the wall.

Thank God, you may not have survived.