Youngkin: cancel minimum wage hike, cut early voting, expand open carry

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People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!
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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!


I do not want republicans tracking who I vote for. They have already shown they will pass laws to stop groups of people from voting. It is not a big step to stop individuals who vote for the other party.
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Why is anyone against an ID requirement??



They are lazy and racist. Everytime this comes up they claim the inconvenience too great and POC can't handle obtaining documents like birth certificates. The DMV gives you a checklist of docs you need, it's really quite simple


I’m not old or poor and it has been a huge PITA for me.

The GOP is pretty transparent about its effort to disenfranchise D voters across the board. They realize they can only win by taking away votes from eligible voters. And throwing away results they don’t like.


I guess it is a PITA to go online to request a copy of your birth certificate and marriage license. Previous generations were able to handle 3-4 hour in-person waits managing to get ID without even the internet. But I hope you understand not everyone, especially POC, have the same issues you seem to have with following directions.


That was a drivers license. I know it is hard for someone like yourself to understand the difference between a drivers license and a National ID? There is no voting fraud but because of people like you we need to reinvent a system that is working fine. It makes it harder to vote. The only reason you want for making it harder to vote is to suppress the vote. Conservatives just want to rule by dictate.


DP. I think it's hilarious that liberals such as yourself insist that obtaining an ID - something everyone should have anyway - is just too hard. Spare us all. No one is "making it harder to vote." You sound absolutely inept and helpless. Get an ID and stop whining.



The fascinating part is that libs want to force everyone to be vaccinated.

What do you need to show in order to get vaccinated? An ID!!!!! I know this first hand, because I didn’t want to show my ID for my vaccination, and was told I couldn’t get it without showing ID.

So apparently everyone CAN get an ID - because you need it to get vaccinated, and every MUST get vaccinated…

But when it comes to voting, an ID is discriminatory.


Explain that one to me.


So true! I completely forgot about needing an ID to get vaccinated. Let's hear them make up some idiotic excuse about that...


No, you don’t need an ID to get vaccinated.



Yes, you do.

I went to three different places in April of last year trying to get vaccinated without having to show an ID - one in DC, a CVS in Arlington, and a vaccination clinic at Montgomery College in Germantown, MD.

After the third try, I gave up and showed my ID at the Germantown clinic.


YOU CANNOT GET VACCINATED WITHOUT ID.

I’m proof of that.


YES, YOU CAN.

If you went to any of the vaccine clinics in VA they weren’t required:

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/covid-19-faq/vaccination/
“ No, photo identification is not required for vaccination. It is important however, to have some way to confirm your identity (i.e. name, date of birth) so we can confirm that we are vaccinating the right person.

VDH recommends that vaccine providers refrain from enforcing any residency requirements by asking for identification or documentation from individuals.”




I just LOVE how you assert that an ID isn’t needed to get vaccinated, and as proof of your claim, show a rule that clearly states some form of identification is needed to confirm your identity!!!!


Priceless. Absolutely priceless!!!



You can definitely get vaccinated without an ID at gov't vaccine clinics. Not sure why you're having trouble understanding that.
"No, government-issued identification is not required to receive a vaccination.

VDH recommends that vaccine providers refrain from enforcing any residency requirements by asking for identification or documentation from individuals."



I never had to show ID for my kids at the clinic.

For me, CVS only required it the first time for insurance processing. Anyone could have gone to my subsequent shots.


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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that Democrats are outraged about common sense measures like… showing ID at the polls. Good for Youngkin.


And well done Youngkin for getting rid of mask mandates in schools. I'm so over my kid wearing a mask. Let COVID rip through the schools and the community. Can't wait!


He’s not even governor yet, so he hasn’t “done” anything.


Oh people are already changing the way they live. We know what the republicans want to do and people are scared for their families. We know what is coming.
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Anonymous wrote:He’s going to be such a shitty governor. He’s determined to drive us down with the likes of West Virginia and Kentucky.


Yup. Pushing trash GOP policies.


I’ve lived in both Charleston,WV and Bardstown,KY and they were nice places, with good and decent hardworking people.

I’m sorry your gross elitist worldview so clouds your perception.


People <> trash GOP policies

Is your poor reading comprehension a reflection of a WV/KY education?

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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!


Agree. ID should have no place in exercising a constitutional right, any constitutional right.
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I am a poll worker. This misunderstanding and confusion about voter ID drives me nuts.

We already have voter ID. It's your signature. When you sign the voter rolls you are attesting your identity and right to vote.

The only way to fake those votes is to forge hundreds and thousands of signatures, and do it so well that the forgeries pass the intense scrutiny of poll workers and poll watchers.

Picture ID requirements will add literally NOTHING to election security. These proposals are just more fodder for the sheeple who have no idea how elections actually work and are therefore easy to lie to.
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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!


Agree. ID should have no place in exercising a constitutional right, any constitutional right.


Eh, New York kinda blew up the dem talking point on this one. . .


+1000
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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!


Agree. ID should have no place in exercising a constitutional right, any constitutional right.


Eh, New York kinda blew up the dem talking point on this one. . .


+1000


You have a constitutional right to eat at a touristy restaurant in Times Square?
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Anonymous wrote:To the person complaining that it takes way too much time and effort to get a license renewed - yes, it does. But you acting like it’s some kind of impossible task only makes people take you even less seriously.

Everyone needs a state-issued ID. Everyone dreads the DMV. Doesn’t really matter. Quit complaining and do what needs to be done.



I’m just pointing out that it’s not a trivial task. Especially the Real ID.

And I am lucky enough to have a car & money. And I can track down the various documents required for the Real ID. And while it’s a pain to schedule time off of work I can get time off of work. It’s possibly an extremely challenging task for some people.

Also, I haven’t had a valid ID in almost 2 years. You don’t “need” a valid gov’t ID.



Interesting. I guess you never see the doctor? Buy alcohol? Rent a car? Board a plane? Stay at hotels?


Not in the last 2 years.




My passport is expired too.




All my identifying documents have expired. Why won't you just take my word? /s


I have no reason to lie. They weren’t expired when I set out on my journey to get a new license in 2020.



I assure you: no one cares about this sob story of yours. We've all had to put up with inconveniences to renew our licenses, obtain ID, etc. You are not special, but you certainly are a whiner. From the VA DMV: "Wednesdays are now walk-in days! Walk in for service Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Saturday (in offices with Saturday hours). Appointment-only service is available on Mondays and Fridays. Plan your visit today!"

If you can't manage that, there is something seriously wrong with your organizational skills.
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My entire point is that it is not a trivial task. Especially in certain circumstances. It has been a huge burden, even for me - and I have a car, computer, mortgage, etc.



Let me get this right: It’s too much to expect everyone to get an ID to vote (doesn’t have to be a driver’s license), but EVERYONE has to have a vaccine card proving they’ve been vaccinated at least twice (and some counties want to have vaccine passports)?


What does one have to do with the other?

I mean, your pretzel logic is puzzling.

I have an idea. Since we’re demanding IDs to vote, you should need to carry a special ID to own a firearm. Failure to produce it on demand of any private citizen should result in confiscation of the gun and imprisonment.


Yeah, that’s called a license and it’s already required to legally own a firearm.


It isn’t a photo ID. You should be required to have a photo ID license on you at all times and have to produce it on demand to anyone who asks. One for each gun.



Anyone who asks?

Like you?


Eh, I don’t mind.


But I hope you’vd got plenty of time when you demand to see my license. I own nearly 300 guns. It might take a while to show you each license.
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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!


Agree. ID should have no place in exercising a constitutional right, any constitutional right.


Eh, New York kinda blew up the dem talking point on this one. . .


+1000


You have a constitutional right to eat at a touristy restaurant in Times Square?



1959 called. They want you back. Something about lunch counters and drinking fountains.
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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!


I do not want republicans tracking who I vote for. They have already shown they will pass laws to stop groups of people from voting. It is not a big step to stop individuals who vote for the other party.


I don’t think the comparison has to do with the constitutionality of it, it has to do
with the argument that people can’t get an ID. If you can get a vaccine card, you can get an ID.
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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!


Agree. ID should have no place in exercising a constitutional right, any constitutional right.


Eh, New York kinda blew up the dem talking point on this one. . .


+1000


You have a constitutional right to eat at a touristy restaurant in Times Square?



1959 called. They want you back. Something about lunch counters and drinking fountains.


Stupid isn’t a protected class.
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Anonymous wrote:People compare needing an ID to vote (a constitutionally protected right) to needing a vaccination card to eat at a restaurant (not a constitutional right), and think they have a trump card. You are welcome to go to supermarkets and buy all the food and cook at home!


I do not want republicans tracking who I vote for. They have already shown they will pass laws to stop groups of people from voting. It is not a big step to stop individuals who vote for the other party.


I don’t think the comparison has to do with the constitutionality of it, it has to do
with the argument that people can’t get an ID. If you can get a vaccine card, you can get an ID.


To get a vaccine you show up at a clinic. Or they come to your nursing home.

It’s much more complicated to get an ID.
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Anonymous wrote:To the person complaining that it takes way too much time and effort to get a license renewed - yes, it does. But you acting like it’s some kind of impossible task only makes people take you even less seriously.

Everyone needs a state-issued ID. Everyone dreads the DMV. Doesn’t really matter. Quit complaining and do what needs to be done.



I’m just pointing out that it’s not a trivial task. Especially the Real ID.

And I am lucky enough to have a car & money. And I can track down the various documents required for the Real ID. And while it’s a pain to schedule time off of work I can get time off of work. It’s possibly an extremely challenging task for some people.

Also, I haven’t had a valid ID in almost 2 years. You don’t “need” a valid gov’t ID.



Interesting. I guess you never see the doctor? Buy alcohol? Rent a car? Board a plane? Stay at hotels?


Not in the last 2 years.




My passport is expired too.




All my identifying documents have expired. Why won't you just take my word? /s


I have no reason to lie. They weren’t expired when I set out on my journey to get a new license in 2020.



I assure you: no one cares about this sob story of yours. We've all had to put up with inconveniences to renew our licenses, obtain ID, etc. You are not special, but you certainly are a whiner. From the VA DMV: "Wednesdays are now walk-in days! Walk in for service Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Saturday (in offices with Saturday hours). Appointment-only service is available on Mondays and Fridays. Plan your visit today!"

If you can't manage that, there is something seriously wrong with your organizational skills.
DP



My entire point is that it is not a trivial task. Especially in certain circumstances. It has been a huge burden, even for me - and I have a car, computer, mortgage, etc.



Let me get this right: It’s too much to expect everyone to get an ID to vote (doesn’t have to be a driver’s license), but EVERYONE has to have a vaccine card proving they’ve been vaccinated at least twice (and some counties want to have vaccine passports)?


What does one have to do with the other?

I mean, your pretzel logic is puzzling.

I have an idea. Since we’re demanding IDs to vote, you should need to carry a special ID to own a firearm. Failure to produce it on demand of any private citizen should result in confiscation of the gun and imprisonment.


Yeah, that’s called a license and it’s already required to legally own a firearm.


It isn’t a photo ID. You should be required to have a photo ID license on you at all times and have to produce it on demand to anyone who asks. One for each gun.



Anyone who asks?

Like you?


Eh, I don’t mind.


But I hope you’vd got plenty of time when you demand to see my license. I own nearly 300 guns. It might take a while to show you each license.


Absolutely, I'll make the time just to inconvenience you. It's a small sacrifice to make to keep you occupied so the environment around you is safer.
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