Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:The police response in the video is coloring some people's view of what's going on. As someone said in another discussion:

One pattern that stood out to me was GP's repeated insistence that she was the problem. A classic victim response called "fawning". Take all the accountability. You're unstable. You're the problem. It's the human equivalent of rolling over and playing dead hoping you won't be harmed further.

Couple that with Brian's pattern of denying, accusing and reversing victim and offender (called DARVO) it's a classic mental/emotional abuse cycle.

Gabby's "fawning" behavior really stood out to me.

YES.

It's amazing to read this thread and see how many people do not see what is really going on. Those people likely do not have experience with this kind of awful thing and they are lucky.

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He did not look worried about his safety at all.
Also on her Instagram post it seems possible the last set of photos were posted by him. They are from a location of a prior setting. She is wearing orange and black specifically for that. She would not have randomly posted carefully done Halloween photos in August and wished her followers Happy Halloween. She was probably saving them for October. It is possible her last texts and posts were done by him and that means he has a lot to hide.

Np or she has abandoned the trip and RV and he’s just trying to keep things normal for their Instagram followers while he tries to figure out what happened and where she is. They get paid through their followers

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Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.

I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.

Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.

Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.

Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.

Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.

I mean, I don't have a hard time believing this dude killed her because "it's always the husband." But, also, if they did simply break up and he doesn't know what happened to her, that's not weird either. So many things could have happened to her after they separated. It's not that weird that he showed up in FL on h is own and didn't contact her family.

Except he took the van, which belonged to her family. If they can't get him for murder, I hope her family at least gets him for theft of vehicle.

No way would that hold water. The girl tells officers she doesn’t like to drive more than short distances. So clearly he had permission to be driving the rv and is probably on the insurance

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Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.

I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.

Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.

Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.

Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.

Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.

I mean, I don't have a hard time believing this dude killed her because "it's always the husband." But, also, if they did simply break up and he doesn't know what happened to her, that's not weird either. So many things could have happened to her after they separated. It's not that weird that he showed up in FL on h is own and didn't contact her family.

Except he took the van, which belonged to her family. If they can't get him for murder, I hope her family at least gets him for theft of vehicle.

No way would that hold water. The girl tells officers she doesn’t like to drive more than short distances. So clearly he had permission to be driving the rv and is probably on the insurance

You think the fact that she preferred him to drive when they were both in the car means that if he drives off with her car without her in it, it's not theft? Some free legal advice: don't test that theory in real life.

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Anonymous wrote:Without requoting, I'll answer pp questions since I watched bodycam vid in entirety.

Yes, there was a married couple shot to death in same area on a local trail/camping site. The oddest thing is Gabby and Brian were arguing outside a bar or establishment where one of the murdered women was employed. Someone contacted police because their fight outside escalated to her attempting to slap him, he blocked it and she scratched him.

Police tailed the van which was speeding. Sirens on, the van swerved and hit curb. They're separated and reports taken. Both of their stories aligned. She admits to causing him (driver) to swerve because she was punching his arm. She admitted to slapping him outside the bar because she wanted him to stop telling her to calm down. Some guy named Chris who witnessed it reported them fearing a DV situation.

She was escorted to back of one police SUV, he was asked to stand outside. She was allowed to call her parents and she sobbed the entire hour while things were being sorted out. Officer Robinson offered them an alternative to filing a domestic dispute violation against HER. Took pics of his scratches on neck and hand. Suggested they separate for the night. I'm also shocked he sent Brian to a hotel and sent her off in van with cool down instrux and no contact until morning. She asked officer if hotel was close because she doesn't drive long distance alone. He refused to tell her the name of hotel, but assured her it was just a few minutes away. Not sure where she set off to. That part wasn't clear. The part that was clear is she remained on her phone with mom or dad or both the entire time.

The officer driove Brian to hotel, and they had a casual, friendly chat in SUV. It was a little too personal imo. I imagine Officer Robinson is overwhelmed with guilt and possibly very involved on the Colorado side of investigation.

Did she actually call? I feel so bad for her parents. Note to parents: if your young adult daughter ever calls you sobbing about domestic violence and a police visit, hop on a plane to collect her asap. Do not let her return to her abuser. He will probably try to kill her eventually.

I'm not saying he didn't abuse her, but in the police video she was the one who almost got them into an accident, and she was the one who made him bleed. There were no marks on her and she said he didn't hit her. She did say he grabbed her face though.

It was a 15 mph zone and he sped up to 45mph. Maybe he hit the curb because she was trying to get him to pull over while he was speeding up. She was crying a lot and seemed truthful and not holding back. He seemed to be lying.

They were past the 15 mph zone, the officer said it took him a while to catch up to them. Neither of them knew they were speeding. She admitted she got upset with him when they noticed the lights behind them. Sure he may have been lying, but their stories lined up pretty closely. He did say she grabbed the wheel and that was why he hit the curb. She said she didn't grab the wheel but was hitting and scratching him. Again, I'm not saying he wasn't an abuser and I'm not saying he didn't kill her, but in this incident she was the abuser.

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I would love it if they could interview the person who called the police. I'd like to hear their perspective on what they saw, and what prompted them to pick up the phone.

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https://www.insider.com/video-shows-upset-gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-after-police-stop-2021-9?utm_campaign=sf-bi-main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2ldvaRENkHfVNO7iQe-uMFDtXSC5jQuqxr0yJdgNbw_B8JlDv18r1vjrg


This is interesting footage from a police cam. Her fiancé is starting to look more and more guilty

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Gabby says in the video she was upset because she was afraid that Brian was going to drive off and leave her.

And look what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Without requoting, I'll answer pp questions since I watched bodycam vid in entirety.

Yes, there was a married couple shot to death in same area on a local trail/camping site. The oddest thing is Gabby and Brian were arguing outside a bar or establishment where one of the murdered women was employed. Someone contacted police because their fight outside escalated to her attempting to slap him, he blocked it and she scratched him.

Police tailed the van which was speeding. Sirens on, the van swerved and hit curb. They're separated and reports taken. Both of their stories aligned. She admits to causing him (driver) to swerve because she was punching his arm. She admitted to slapping him outside the bar because she wanted him to stop telling her to calm down. Some guy named Chris who witnessed it reported them fearing a DV situation.

She was escorted to back of one police SUV, he was asked to stand outside. She was allowed to call her parents and she sobbed the entire hour while things were being sorted out. Officer Robinson offered them an alternative to filing a domestic dispute violation against HER. Took pics of his scratches on neck and hand. Suggested they separate for the night. I'm also shocked he sent Brian to a hotel and sent her off in van with cool down instrux and no contact until morning. She asked officer if hotel was close because she doesn't drive long distance alone. He refused to tell her the name of hotel, but assured her it was just a few minutes away. Not sure where she set off to. That part wasn't clear. The part that was clear is she remained on her phone with mom or dad or both the entire time.

The officer driove Brian to hotel, and they had a casual, friendly chat in SUV. It was a little too personal imo. I imagine Officer Robinson is overwhelmed with guilt and possibly very involved on the Colorado side of investigation.

Do we know if they saw each other again after the van video or when? How many times?

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I hate that this is even a possibility but what if this a stunt to gain more followers? It certainly has captured my attention and I've watched their YouTube videos.

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I'm not sure I understood a couple of details brought up in the past few pages:

1. A couple were murdered in the general area where Gabby and Brian were arguing. Weirdly enough, the restaurant they were standing in front of was where the murdered woman worked.

2. Someone called the cops because he was afraid what he was witnessing looked scary and like DV.

3. Gabby was crying hysterically and not making a lot of sense when the cops tried to interview her (do I have this straight? I didn't watch the YouTube).

So my question is: If I have the above facts straight, is it possible Gabby was crying hysterically because of the murders, i.e., either she saw something, or Brian was involved in the murders - and Gabby was TERRIFIED?

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Gabby/Brian argument - Aug 12
Last time murdered women (newly married couple Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner) seen - Aug 13
Kylen & Crystal reported missing - Aug 16
K & C found dead, partially nude with several gunshot wounds - Aug 18

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/09/08/women-killed-moab-told/

Utah police say they're looking to see if they're connected because they "aren't ruling anything out."

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The Daily Mail article linked earlier in the thread said she was last seen in Salt Lake City after he returned from a short trip to Florida. If so, then why the focus in Grand Tetons?

Also, he says in the video that they don’t have money for a hotel and yet, after the incident, he flies to Florida and she stays in a hotel for 5 days.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure I understood a couple of details brought up in the past few pages:

1. A couple were murdered in the general area where Gabby and Brian were arguing. Weirdly enough, the restaurant they were standing in front of was where the murdered woman worked.

2. Someone called the cops because he was afraid what he was witnessing looked scary and like DV.

3. Gabby was crying hysterically and not making a lot of sense when the cops tried to interview her (do I have this straight? I didn't watch the YouTube).

So my question is: If I have the above facts straight, is it possible Gabby was crying hysterically because of the murders, i.e., either she saw something, or Brian was involved in the murders - and Gabby was TERRIFIED?

Here's a story about the murders in the park - https://www.thespectrum.com/story/news/2021/08/23/newlywed-campers-murdered-utah-near-arches-national-park/8244124002/. This happened in mid to late August, so I don't think Gabby and Brian were on the scene.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure I understood a couple of details brought up in the past few pages:

1. A couple were murdered in the general area where Gabby and Brian were arguing. Weirdly enough, the restaurant they were standing in front of was where the murdered woman worked.

2. Someone called the cops because he was afraid what he was witnessing looked scary and like DV.

3. Gabby was crying hysterically and not making a lot of sense when the cops tried to interview her (do I have this straight? I didn't watch the YouTube).

So my question is: If I have the above facts straight, is it possible Gabby was crying hysterically because of the murders, i.e., either she saw something, or Brian was involved in the murders - and Gabby was TERRIFIED?

Here's a story about the murders in the park - https://www.thespectrum.com/story/news/2021/08/23/newlywed-campers-murdered-utah-near-arches-national-park/8244124002/. This happened in mid to late August, so I don't think Gabby and Brian were on the scene.

OK, I"m wrong. They were all in the same area at the same time - https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/09/16/police-compare-notes/

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure I understood a couple of details brought up in the past few pages:

1. A couple were murdered in the general area where Gabby and Brian were arguing. Weirdly enough, the restaurant they were standing in front of was where the murdered woman worked.

2. Someone called the cops because he was afraid what he was witnessing looked scary and like DV.

3. Gabby was crying hysterically and not making a lot of sense when the cops tried to interview her (do I have this straight? I didn't watch the YouTube).

So my question is: If I have the above facts straight, is it possible Gabby was crying hysterically because of the murders, i.e., either she saw something, or Brian was involved in the murders - and Gabby was TERRIFIED?

Here's a story about the murders in the park - https://www.thespectrum.com/story/news/2021/08/23/newlywed-campers-murdered-utah-near-arches-national-park/8244124002/. This happened in mid to late August, so I don't think Gabby and Brian were on the scene.

August 12th was when Gabby and Brian were fighting outside the Moonflower Coop where one of the murdered couple worked. August 13th was the last day the murdered couple was seen alive. Most likely not related but the timing and coincidental location of the Moonflower is kind of strange.