Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

But the movie was very successful despite the "great unfollowing." It turns out it didn't matter at all, and that the number of people who will decide to go see a movie based on whether or not the cast is following the director on instagram is not an important number.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

Yes, I see that some people online are obsessive about finding out which celebs follow others and post reddit threads and speculate about it. I have seen those headlines.

But it also seems to me that the obvious response to that would be "guys, it doesn't matter, it's just social media." People will get worked up about anything, but they forget about it the next day. The news cycle is always churning and this isn't actually important.

I just tend to think that could have been handled by just telling anyone who asks that it's not important, and they want to talk about the movie.

I guess I don't view it as childish to unfollow (why follow someone you actively don't like). I do think it's childish to care. Just let it go. Like in the example of Jenny Slate, she says she unfollowed because she didn't want to help Justin promote a "feminist ally" brand that she thought was BS, and I think that was a genuinely held opinion from her, not something she was talked into. She's entitled to that. But also -- who cares? Just move on. It's the fixating on this that I think is infantile.

Have to hard disagree about Slate. She literally was at Blake’s beck and call, and did everything Blake asked her to, it’s all in the texts. Blake even basically scripted Slate’s housing complaint.

Wasn't Slate the first to unfollow though? And also, I don't think Baldoni even noticed he was being unfollowed until Ryan did it. At least, that's what I remember from his texts with Abel.

I think it's pretty clear from Slate's depo and texts that she really disliked Justin from the jump and didn't need encouragement from Blake. She also really clearly articulates her issue with him. It's not like "I just didn't like him" or "he gave me the creeps." She considered him a fraud because he presents as an ally to women and then his in person behavior is... not that. Blake doesn't even express it that clearly, so I don't think Jenny is getting that from Blake.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Personally, I agree, but I begrudgingly admit it seems to be a very big deal to some people (such as when Kelce unfollowed Reynolds) and celebs apparently do use it to signal. If it were up to me I would never be aware of who follows whom because I don't follow any of these people and I certainly don't comb through their friends list to notice when they followed or unfollowed someone. But it's a thing, so I guess if I were Hoover or whoever and I just didn't like someone, I would mute them and follow them to keep the peace because unfollowing would create drama. Therefore I infer that if they unfollow, they mean that as a message to the public.

It's so, so dumb. And it really does come off ridiculous to be like "oh, we had to have this plan to destroy this person - which we can't write down - because they might UNFOLLOW me."

Maybe one day California will introduce a defamation claim for "false light unfollowing."

PP and yes. I think I get stuck on this because years and years ago when IG was young, I had an acquaintance who posted really annoying crap on there and chose to unfollow her. This was before you could mute people, and I wanted to be able to scroll IG without seeing her annoying posts. But people, including her, made a big deal out of it and I was like "...? it's just instagram who cares?" Like I didn't get it then and I don't get it now. I've been unfollowed too. Oh well. Sometimes people don't like other people. Sometimes people don't get along. Or, in my case, I just didn't want to see these really inane posts.

I just think people are giving this app way too much power. It doesn't matter. People look at IG while sitting on the toilet and standing in line at the grocery store, folks. It is truly not important.

PP. I guess it's parasocial relationships. The fans can be part of the story. Just as your friends can go "ohhhh, you're not following Larla anymore!" fans can be part of the action by being the first to notice and gossip about Slate unfollowing Baldoni, etc. It's as if they have this special, personal knowledge that they found via "their own research." There's always this one person on any discussion topic like this who will be like "well but actually, blah blah blah [quotes all this stuff from social media like they are an insider, but that stuff has all been carefully curated by the celeb]."

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

Yes, I see that some people online are obsessive about finding out which celebs follow others and post reddit threads and speculate about it. I have seen those headlines.

But it also seems to me that the obvious response to that would be "guys, it doesn't matter, it's just social media." People will get worked up about anything, but they forget about it the next day. The news cycle is always churning and this isn't actually important.

I just tend to think that could have been handled by just telling anyone who asks that it's not important, and they want to talk about the movie.

I guess I don't view it as childish to unfollow (why follow someone you actively don't like). I do think it's childish to care. Just let it go. Like in the example of Jenny Slate, she says she unfollowed because she didn't want to help Justin promote a "feminist ally" brand that she thought was BS, and I think that was a genuinely held opinion from her, not something she was talked into. She's entitled to that. But also -- who cares? Just move on. It's the fixating on this that I think is infantile.

Have to hard disagree about Slate. She literally was at Blake’s beck and call, and did everything Blake asked her to, it’s all in the texts. Blake even basically scripted Slate’s housing complaint.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

I feel...the exact opposite. I don't care if people "liked" Blake or Justin more, this isn't high school. All of the women who disliked Justin have testified and clearly indicated their reasons for the dislike and how it began. None of them suggested it had anything to do with Blake. Hoover, IIRC, had not met Blake or met her once in passing when she formed her negative opinion of Justin. Justin's OWN PR PEOPLE also talked badly about him behind his back. Whether Blake is a good person or not isn't relevant to the fact that these women, including the women literally being paid to promote him, did independently form their opinions of him.

Did cast members and Hoover also get starstruck and kiss Blake's ass? Probably. Did they perhaps go further than they normally would have, by unfollowing him instead of just talking about him behind his back, because of Blake? Possible. But she did not turn them against him, he did that himself.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

This take is just bizarre to me. Here I will disagree with the other Blake supporter. The Baldoni stans are SJW, not MAGA.

They are horribly misguided teaming up with MRAs, Candace Owens, and incels.

Blake stans are malignant narcissists and bullies. Anyone defending this woman was probably the bully in high school. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

But the movie was very successful despite the "great unfollowing." It turns out it didn't matter at all, and that the number of people who will decide to go see a movie based on whether or not the cast is following the director on instagram is not an important number.

You are missing the point though - they were freaking out because it is a big deal that would get public attention. They didn’t know whether it would go one way or the other, but they knew it would have an impact.

You or whoever asked that question said what’s the big deal about unfollowing. The big deal about unfollowing is that people notice that it makes a statement. They wanted to send a signal if they didn’t like Justin and it worked.

In hindsight, I’m sure sony was thrilled that the movie did so well but after all this, I’m not so sure. A lot of Hollywood has been pushed on their a$$ because of these leaked texts and emails.

And it’s clearly messed up any chances for a sequel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

NP, if it were a one off, perhaps. But pair that with calling Baldoni Aladdin, getting married on a plantation and setting up dinner next to slave cabins (which you can see in the pictures), a lifestyle company romanticizing the antebellum south, wearing blackface and an Afro, and just generally how Blake moves. BBQ is triggering OP in the same way watermelon or fried chicken would. These are things are big in black culture. There’s even a movie called the cookout. With Blake’s history, the presumption is she’s using it pejoratively. B/c of her problematic past, she’s not given the benefit of the doubt. Can’t say I blame OP for seeing sinister intent in the comment.

[Anonymous]

You guys not getting the social media brew ha ha just don’t know millennial culture. Taylor Swift pretty much invented the concept of breadcrumbs - leaving all these clues to send a message to fans.

Colleen Hoover said in her deposition, Blake ask her to unfollow Justin. It was obvious what they were doing.

And yes, it got headlines when Travis unfollowed Ryan. Travis obviously didn’t need to do that.

For that matter, why not just let Justin walk the red carpet and just not take pictures or interact with him. She could’ve done that too, but she wanted to send a message so she made him have a separate premiere and sent him to the basement.

Do adults act like this? In the real world no, but these are a bunch of ridiculous Middle School bullies so here we are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

NP, if it were a one off, perhaps. But pair that with calling Baldoni Aladdin, getting married on a plantation and setting up dinner next to slave cabins (which you can see in the pictures), a lifestyle company romanticizing the antebellum south, wearing blackface and an Afro, and just generally how Blake moves. BBQ is triggering OP in the same way watermelon or fried chicken would. These are things are big in black culture. There’s even a movie called the cookout. With Blake’s history, the presumption is she’s using it pejoratively. B/c of her problematic past, she’s not given the benefit of the doubt. Can’t say I blame OP for seeing sinister intent in the comment.

BBQ is common to many places in the world. Indigenous people BBQd. Cooking meat outside has been around forever and is in almost every culture. I have lived in Asia - they BBQ, I lived in the Caucasus - they BBQ. I lived in the Middle east, they BBQ. Almost every white person here I know has a BBQ in their backyard. Honestly I had never in my life heard that it is racist for a white person to say BBQ. There are many people groups that were BBQing long before there were even black people in America so to say they own that term and it is racist to use it makes no sense to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

NP, if it were a one off, perhaps. But pair that with calling Baldoni Aladdin, getting married on a plantation and setting up dinner next to slave cabins (which you can see in the pictures), a lifestyle company romanticizing the antebellum south, wearing blackface and an Afro, and just generally how Blake moves. BBQ is triggering OP in the same way watermelon or fried chicken would. These are things are big in black culture. There’s even a movie called the cookout. With Blake’s history, the presumption is she’s using it pejoratively. B/c of her problematic past, she’s not given the benefit of the doubt. Can’t say I blame OP for seeing sinister intent in the comment.

BBQ is common to many places in the world. Indigenous people BBQd. Cooking meat outside has been around forever and is in almost every culture. I have lived in Asia - they BBQ, I lived in the Caucasus - they BBQ. I lived in the Middle east, they BBQ. Almost every white person here I know has a BBQ in their backyard. Honestly I had never in my life heard that it is racist for a white person to say BBQ. There are many people groups that were BBQing long before there were even black people in America so to say they own that term and it is racist to use it makes no sense to me.

Well now you learned something new. What are you going to do about this new information?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

NP, if it were a one off, perhaps. But pair that with calling Baldoni Aladdin, getting married on a plantation and setting up dinner next to slave cabins (which you can see in the pictures), a lifestyle company romanticizing the antebellum south, wearing blackface and an Afro, and just generally how Blake moves. BBQ is triggering OP in the same way watermelon or fried chicken would. These are things are big in black culture. There’s even a movie called the cookout. With Blake’s history, the presumption is she’s using it pejoratively. B/c of her problematic past, she’s not given the benefit of the doubt. Can’t say I blame OP for seeing sinister intent in the comment.

BBQ is common to many places in the world. Indigenous people BBQd. Cooking meat outside has been around forever and is in almost every culture. I have lived in Asia - they BBQ, I lived in the Caucasus - they BBQ. I lived in the Middle east, they BBQ. Almost every white person here I know has a BBQ in their backyard. Honestly I had never in my life heard that it is racist for a white person to say BBQ. There are many people groups that were BBQing long before there were even black people in America so to say they own that term and it is racist to use it makes no sense to me.

Well now you learned something new. What are you going to do about this new information?

Nothing. I haven't learned anything new. People can choose to be offended but that is their choice if they decide to claim a word that doesn't belong to them anyways. I will continue to use the word BBQ both here and around the world. And it will continue to mean a casual get together - outdoors with friends that involves cooking meat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

NP, if it were a one off, perhaps. But pair that with calling Baldoni Aladdin, getting married on a plantation and setting up dinner next to slave cabins (which you can see in the pictures), a lifestyle company romanticizing the antebellum south, wearing blackface and an Afro, and just generally how Blake moves. BBQ is triggering OP in the same way watermelon or fried chicken would. These are things are big in black culture. There’s even a movie called the cookout. With Blake’s history, the presumption is she’s using it pejoratively. B/c of her problematic past, she’s not given the benefit of the doubt. Can’t say I blame OP for seeing sinister intent in the comment.

Who cares? Jamey Heath is a creepy pervo weirdo. Nobody should invite him to a bbq.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NY Post calls Blake and Taylor pathological lying middle aged mean girls. Ouch.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/22/opinion/blake-lively-never-graduated-from-being-a-middle-school-mean-girl/

I love how you all keep saying JB isn’t Maga adjacent but keep posting Maga posters from twitter and maga adjacent news sources are proof for your version of events.