Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

I feel...the exact opposite. I don't care if people "liked" Blake or Justin more, this isn't high school. All of the women who disliked Justin have testified and clearly indicated their reasons for the dislike and how it began. None of them suggested it had anything to do with Blake. Hoover, IIRC, had not met Blake or met her once in passing when she formed her negative opinion of Justin. Justin's OWN PR PEOPLE also talked badly about him behind his back. Whether Blake is a good person or not isn't relevant to the fact that these women, including the women literally being paid to promote him, did independently form their opinions of him.

Did cast members and Hoover also get starstruck and kiss Blake's ass? Probably. Did they perhaps go further than they normally would have, by unfollowing him instead of just talking about him behind his back, because of Blake? Possible. But she did not turn them against him, he did that himself.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

This take is just bizarre to me. Here I will disagree with the other Blake supporter. The Baldoni stans are SJW, not MAGA.

They are horribly misguided teaming up with MRAs, Candace Owens, and incels.

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I followed this closely in the beginning, dipped out for awhile, and now I'm back. Big picture - nothing has changed my opinion that Blake Lively was indeed SH, but she's so deeply obnoxious and unlikeable that this case was never gonna go her way. Whether she ultimately wins in court is beside the point because professionally she's never coming back from this.

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

I feel...the exact opposite. I don't care if people "liked" Blake or Justin more, this isn't high school. All of the women who disliked Justin have testified and clearly indicated their reasons for the dislike and how it began. None of them suggested it had anything to do with Blake. Hoover, IIRC, had not met Blake or met her once in passing when she formed her negative opinion of Justin. Justin's OWN PR PEOPLE also talked badly about him behind his back. Whether Blake is a good person or not isn't relevant to the fact that these women, including the women literally being paid to promote him, did independently form their opinions of him.

Did cast members and Hoover also get starstruck and kiss Blake's ass? Probably. Did they perhaps go further than they normally would have, by unfollowing him instead of just talking about him behind his back, because of Blake? Possible. But she did not turn them against him, he did that himself.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

This take is just bizarre to me. Here I will disagree with the other Blake supporter. The Baldoni stans are SJW, not MAGA.

As Baldoni’s lawyers said, they’re bringing in the small potatoes. Blake got these women to turn on Baldoni over small slights. Hoover even said in her depo Blake asked her to unfollow Justin. Isabella had no problem with Justin until meeting Blake after which she managed to dredge up three tiny incidents, including directions to lick a spoon, which was in the book. Jenny Slate made a joke that her Airbnb was bad for sex, then she and Blake discussed over text that Jenny’s joke was fine but Justin was inappropriate for laughing. It’s wild cult behavior.

And yes, Blake absolutely has a pattern of racist behavior. Hasan Minhaj wasn’t buddy buddy with Justin but he was excluded from Lively’s lovebombing. Lively got Brandon a movie, an “introducing” credit for Isabella (with whom she also had sleepovers) and was making plans for a sequel with Colleen. She cozied up to all the white people.

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Can we all just agree that Colleen Hoover books suck?

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Now that we know more of the timeline, can someone please explain to me why if is Blake hated Justin so much well before ever stepping foot on set, which we have a treasure trove of documents proving starting on January through April 2023, if Ryan was reaching out saying that he was a threat at that time, why is blake, in I believe early June, inviting him to run lines while she pumped milk in her trailer?

When all of this first dropped, I mistakenly got the impression that they started out as friends and then some things happened to change that. But this shows that she had absolute contempt for him well before stepping foot on that set. So I just don’t understand that.

If I was truly so uncomfortable with someone that I couldn’t even get through a scene where we had to act as if we were dancing, I just can’t imagine wanting to run lines alone in my trailer while I was pumping breastmilk.

Also, I cannot ever imagine texting a boss and having them come to a meeting with me while I was nursing. Even a female boss.

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I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

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Isn’t Liz plank supposed to be known for feminism? Why did she do a podcast on feminism with Justin Baldoni for 124 episodes if he was so terrible? Seems really inauthentic for her brand.

She only quit when it became public that he was a fraud? But she was OK with him being a fraud as long as nobody else knew?

These people are really terrible. 124 episodes of a podcast is a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that we know more of the timeline, can someone please explain to me why if is Blake hated Justin so much well before ever stepping foot on set, which we have a treasure trove of documents proving starting on January through April 2023, if Ryan was reaching out saying that he was a threat at that time, why is blake, in I believe early June, inviting him to run lines while she pumped milk in her trailer?

When all of this first dropped, I mistakenly got the impression that they started out as friends and then some things happened to change that. But this shows that she had absolute contempt for him well before stepping foot on that set. So I just don’t understand that.

If I was truly so uncomfortable with someone that I couldn’t even get through a scene where we had to act as if we were dancing, I just can’t imagine wanting to run lines alone in my trailer while I was pumping breastmilk.

Also, I cannot ever imagine texting a boss and having them come to a meeting with me while I was nursing. Even a female boss.

It's not that hard to cover up while pumping. If you knew someone was coming, you'd just throw a cover on. I don't get what the big deal is. That's very different than what is alleged with Jamey coming into the makeup trailer while Blake was topless and nursing, and she had no warning and all three women in the trailer told him not to come in, and then he refused to leave. She didn't have warning. It sounds like there wasn't anything nearby to cover her with (the makeup artist testified that the other MUA threw a towel on Blake to cover her exposed breast but all they had were these little towels they use for cleaning up and it didn't do a good job).

There are also other texts between Blake and friends where she says she's working hard to maintain a good rapport with Justin because they have to portray this romance onscreen. So to me it makes sense that she would ask him if he wanted to run lines before shooting a scene, to help her get in the headspace where she could portray what she needed to portray on screen, even if she really disliked him and didn't want to be around him. It just doesn't seem contradictory to me -- it was part of her job.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

People track that? What sort of people are interested in tracking this?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Personally, I agree, but I begrudgingly admit it seems to be a very big deal to some people (such as when Kelce unfollowed Reynolds) and celebs apparently do use it to signal. If it were up to me I would never be aware of who follows whom because I don't follow any of these people and I certainly don't comb through their friends list to notice when they followed or unfollowed someone. But it's a thing, so I guess if I were Hoover or whoever and I just didn't like someone, I would mute them and follow them to keep the peace because unfollowing would create drama. Therefore I infer that if they unfollow, they mean that as a message to the public.

It's so, so dumb. And it really does come off ridiculous to be like "oh, we had to have this plan to destroy this person - which we can't write down - because they might UNFOLLOW me."

Maybe one day California will introduce a defamation claim for "false light unfollowing."

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Liz plank supposed to be known for feminism? Why did she do a podcast on feminism with Justin Baldoni for 124 episodes if he was so terrible? Seems really inauthentic for her brand.

She only quit when it became public that he was a fraud? But she was OK with him being a fraud as long as nobody else knew?

These people are really terrible. 124 episodes of a podcast is a lot.

Yep, that's Hollywood.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

Yes, I see that some people online are obsessive about finding out which celebs follow others and post reddit threads and speculate about it. I have seen those headlines.

But it also seems to me that the obvious response to that would be "guys, it doesn't matter, it's just social media." People will get worked up about anything, but they forget about it the next day. The news cycle is always churning and this isn't actually important.

I just tend to think that could have been handled by just telling anyone who asks that it's not important, and they want to talk about the movie.

I guess I don't view it as childish to unfollow (why follow someone you actively don't like). I do think it's childish to care. Just let it go. Like in the example of Jenny Slate, she says she unfollowed because she didn't want to help Justin promote a "feminist ally" brand that she thought was BS, and I think that was a genuinely held opinion from her, not something she was talked into. She's entitled to that. But also -- who cares? Just move on. It's the fixating on this that I think is infantile.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Personally, I agree, but I begrudgingly admit it seems to be a very big deal to some people (such as when Kelce unfollowed Reynolds) and celebs apparently do use it to signal. If it were up to me I would never be aware of who follows whom because I don't follow any of these people and I certainly don't comb through their friends list to notice when they followed or unfollowed someone. But it's a thing, so I guess if I were Hoover or whoever and I just didn't like someone, I would mute them and follow them to keep the peace because unfollowing would create drama. Therefore I infer that if they unfollow, they mean that as a message to the public.

It's so, so dumb. And it really does come off ridiculous to be like "oh, we had to have this plan to destroy this person - which we can't write down - because they might UNFOLLOW me."

Maybe one day California will introduce a defamation claim for "false light unfollowing."

PP and yes. I think I get stuck on this because years and years ago when IG was young, I had an acquaintance who posted really annoying crap on there and chose to unfollow her. This was before you could mute people, and I wanted to be able to scroll IG without seeing her annoying posts. But people, including her, made a big deal out of it and I was like "...? it's just instagram who cares?" Like I didn't get it then and I don't get it now. I've been unfollowed too. Oh well. Sometimes people don't like other people. Sometimes people don't get along. Or, in my case, I just didn't want to see these really inane posts.

I just think people are giving this app way too much power. It doesn't matter. People look at IG while sitting on the toilet and standing in line at the grocery store, folks. It is truly not important.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

Yes, I see that some people online are obsessive about finding out which celebs follow others and post reddit threads and speculate about it. I have seen those headlines.

But it also seems to me that the obvious response to that would be "guys, it doesn't matter, it's just social media." People will get worked up about anything, but they forget about it the next day. The news cycle is always churning and this isn't actually important.

I just tend to think that could have been handled by just telling anyone who asks that it's not important, and they want to talk about the movie.

I guess I don't view it as childish to unfollow (why follow someone you actively don't like). I do think it's childish to care. Just let it go. Like in the example of Jenny Slate, she says she unfollowed because she didn't want to help Justin promote a "feminist ally" brand that she thought was BS, and I think that was a genuinely held opinion from her, not something she was talked into. She's entitled to that. But also -- who cares? Just move on. It's the fixating on this that I think is infantile.

Have to hard disagree about Slate. She literally was at Blake’s beck and call, and did everything Blake asked her to, it’s all in the texts. Blake even basically scripted Slate’s housing complaint.