Until you can show us that no one is reading any Dr Seuss books anymore this kind of alarm is overblown. I mean really. There are thousands of books and authors out there, new ones every year. What people read 100 years ago is not the same as what people read today. Do you really want to claim that book losts should never change? |
I like Dr. Seuss and my family has several that my kid enjoys, but it's not bad to have the day we celebrate children's reading not just be about one author. Plenty of the stuff I've seen today HAS been able Seuss, but there's lots of great children's authors to celebrate. He hasn't been "cancelled" because he's not the sole focus of an entire holiday. |
OP here and this person articulates my feelings much better than I can. I’m not a secret republican, and it’s quite telling that you all are making assumptions about me based on my post and feelings. This is the problem with the world today, everything is so extreme and black and white and there is no room for thoughtful nuance like the Joy/Whoopi suggestions on the View (for example). If I have a problem with what’s going on here with Seuss I’m suddenly a racist?! Sheesh. |
Book lists can obviously change. That’s a separate issue from the fact Seuss has been removed from the annual celebration, his name is now linked to racism, schools are taking action in response to this, and ultimately people will stop giving his other books as gifts. Would you give a pregnant coworker the cat in the hat as a token shower gift at work? Doubtful. That’s the real impact: everyone will have a vague memory that “Seuss books are racist,” and most people won’t want any part of that. |
The OP was about "censorship". This can happen by govt, private groups/businesses, and other controlling bodies. We, as voters, can and should take a dim view of govt censorship, regardless of the topic. People are asking what you want voters to do about private businesses. Do you want us to prohibit companies from making these types of decisions? Some voters (like me) feel that this was a good decision by the private business. If you think it was a poor decision, you should get other like minded people together and lobby the private entity to sway them. I am confused about where the "Evil Liberals" are coming in. |
https://www.holidayscalendar.com/event/dr-seuss-day/
History behind Dr. Seuss Day |
DP. So your fear is a thing you can't show is happening, and we're all just supposed to assume it is or will because you've announced it? Plenty of people I know have been talking about racism in Seuss for years and yet from where I sit I can see three Dr. Seuss books and I know there's more in my daughter's room, all of them gifts but one. This isn't what's happening in the world outside your head. |
+1. |
His name being linked to racism is not a new thing. He’s got some plenty of blatantly racist content in his catalog. |
Nothing is stopping you from doing just what Joy suggests. Nothing at all. Go buy the books from a used store, and have that discussion with your children to your heart's content. But you seem to be totally bewildered that someone might come to a different conclusion than you have, i.e. the owners of the books themselves. They came to a different conclusion. It's their right to decide that they no longer want their name on, or be associated, with racist imagery in a few books. Not all of his books, a few books. You're fighting so hard for a company to continue to market racist imagery to children when they are simply saying, 'hey, we don't want to market racist imagery to children anymore." But if you want to do that and be able to have fuller discussions about racism with your children, have at it. Because the books haven't been censored. They full stop haven't been censored. |
??? This only became a hot topic this week. It never gained real media attention when it was casually discussed before. The publisher’s announcement coupled with Seuss’ name being removed from the annual celebration prompted so much attention that even conservatives noticed and opted to make it an even bigger debate. I don’t think it’s crazy to believe there will be a lasting impact here. So, maybe you received those books as baby gifts before (I did, too). But I bet most people will opt for different books as baby gifts moving forward. |
Also, Joy and Whoopi ARE LIBERALS. So clearly this isn't a problem with the Evil Liberals And Their Cancel Culture, although if you want to turn that into a children's book, feel free. |
Really? Because it seems to me that no one is calling for that. And that even the liberal wing of the View is taking a nuanced approach. Honestly, the only one here who is approaching this as a black and white issue is you. |
Just because Joy and Whoopi identify as liberals doesn't mean they are right on this issue. |
Maybe you just learned about it this week, but like I said, the people I know have known about it for years. I went to a Dr. Seuss art exhibition a few years back and everyone I talked to about it mentioned the racism. None of this is new simply because it's new to you. And personally I do think it's crazy to be mad about something that's happening entirely in your head that you've never even heard anyone claim to have seen in real life. That seems like textbook crazy to me. |