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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did everyone gloss over my transcript from the View today?

Joy and Whoopi...the most liberal members of the bunch...both thought getting rid of the books was wrong. Both felt it’s better to use art (including these books) for discussion to foster understanding. Flag when the books were written, acknowledge it was a different time, highlight the racism, discuss why it’s racist, and affirm that we know better now.

Again: these are liberal voices saying this is going too far. These are not conservatives. These are not racists.

They are admittedly older, and I suspect there might be a generational divide on this topic. But these are comics who value free speech and abhor censorship. They also believe it’s better to talk about issues instead of bury them. There’s value in learning from past mistakes. [/quote]

Who is doing the censoring?

If they want to read these to their children no one is stopping them.

Are you suggesting parents MUST read these books, that you want to force people to read them? [/quote]

No, nobody is suggesting that.

My takeaway from their discussion is the fear is the slippery slope.

Joy actually did say if she were a teacher, she would use texts like this to foster discussion. Read the sentence, show the picture, etc. and ask students to point out the racism.

I personally think the Seuss co simply wants to dump books that aren’t profitable.

The larger issue imho is the takeaway today seems to be that Seuss was a racist, his books should no longer be read, and his legacy is forever tarnished. Note: he was removed from Read across America.

Will people forego gifting pregnant moms and toddlers with other Seuss books? I think they might. His name has been tarnished, and that’s the takeaway.

^^^This is the actual cancel aspect.[/quote]

OP here and this person articulates my feelings much better than I can. I’m not a secret republican, and it’s quite telling that you all are making assumptions about me based on my post and feelings. This is the problem with the world today, everything is so extreme and black and white and there is no room for thoughtful nuance like the Joy/Whoopi suggestions on the View (for example). If I have a problem with what’s going on here with Seuss I’m suddenly a racist?! Sheesh. [/quote]

Nothing is stopping you from doing just what Joy suggests. Nothing at all. Go buy the books from a used store, and have that discussion with your children to your heart's content. But you seem to be totally bewildered that someone might come to a different conclusion than you have, i.e. the owners of the books themselves. They came to a different conclusion. It's their right to decide that they no longer want their name on, or be associated, with racist imagery in a few books. Not all of his books, a few books. You're fighting so hard for a company to continue to market racist imagery to children when they are simply saying, 'hey, we don't want to market racist imagery to children anymore." But if you want to do that and be able to have fuller discussions about racism with your children, have at it. Because the books haven't been censored. They full stop haven't been censored. [/quote]

Also, Joy and Whoopi ARE LIBERALS.  So clearly this isn't a problem with the Evil Liberals And Their Cancel Culture, although if you want to turn that into a children's book, feel free.[/quote]

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