Is anyone watching Dirty John tonight? Betty Broderick's story

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Anonymous wrote:Is it on Netflix?

Yes. Hard to watch though. I could only get through about half then skipped to the end. Amanda Peet gives a great performance but watching someone unravel so completely was painful.

I would be so pissed if anyone drove a car into my house. Cannot believe the support for BB.

Am I misremembering, but wasn’t it her house, too? Like Dan tricked her into moving out of their joint marital home into a temporary house while their primary house was being renovated or something, filed, and then moved into the house that was theirs with his new wife? Or was it that he tricked her into moving out, sold their old home, and bought a new one? And then he had her committed.

It was only Dan’s house, after she moved into the fixer upper in La Jolla.

But I read she had to leave the La Jolla house and move into a condo rental because of all the financial disputes. She signed the condo over to her FWB when she was arrested. I think the "murder house" was the property he bought for Linda to live in while he was tricking Betty into leaving the family house, which he then sold against her wishes. he had it all planned out.

I think that’s right. I mean, I wouldn’t actually drive my car into the house, but I’d certainly want to if my former spouse and coparent whom I’d supported all through the lean years did that to me. What a complete evil d***. Just give her the house and half the money and move out with your side piece if you’re really just trying to get out. But he wasn’t. He wanted to destroy her. He probably thought he’d get her to kill herself. Bet that was his endgame. He figured wrong.

It's absurd given how extraordinarily wealthy the man was. Her request for 1/5 of his income for 10 years plus one million really was not unreasonable (the million would have allowed her to purchase a house and maintain it). She'd likely have gotten much more today with a truly 50-50 division of assets. Man was a sociopath, who did indeed seem to feel like she didn't have the right to exist once he was done with her. If it weren't for the damage to the children, I can absolutely see wanting to destroy people who treated me that way. But I'd like to think I'd cool my heels once the judge awarded 16k/month despite Dan's machinations.

Was he "extraordinarily wealthy"? Or did he just live a lifestyle like he was? Apparently when he died he left like $60K and it was estimated he had only $1.6 million in other assets. That's pretty tiny for the lifestyle he was portraying.

$16K a month is $192K. Was he actually make income of even double that at the time of his death? It sounds like he had a lot of money tied up investments and very little liquid and possibly debt that was not revealed.

I also wonder how Betty's upbringing played into the situation and the fear of her parents judgement and general Catholic guilt that can be drummed into people over a lifetime that they are easily consumed with guilt for not maintaining the right lifestyle. It was clear that Betty's mom was very concerned about appearances. I mean getting upset because "morning dress" wasn't worn to a wedding? I mean they are English royalty and there was not etiquette that demanded they must do that.

Good point. Wasn’t he a plaintiff’s lawyer for medical malpractice cases? Don’t those lawyers usually take their fees on a contingency basis? That kind of work can have lots of peaks and valleys in terms of financial payoffs. Dan obviously made good money, but he didn’t necessarily have a steady and endless stream of $$$ rolling in.

He had been earning 100K+/month at the time of the divorce judgment (1.4 million the year before) so yeah pretty damn wealthy but good point the income wasn't necessarily guaranteed. I don't know that they ever determined what happened to the 200K that "disappeared" before the legal separation or if the estate ever regained the 450K "loaned" to the brother, whom I read was later accused of stealing money from it. I don't think forensic accountings were really a thing in divorce cases at that time. It was pretty easy for the breadwinner to manipulate things in his favor, happened all the time. It's clear Dan did that.

But was he actually himself taking home an income of $100K or was that income to the firm itself. I am sorry but I just don't think he was as wealthy as Betty wanted him to be at the time of his death. I think if he would have lived, then yes, he could have reached a point where he was actually that wealthy.

He was making a great income, but both of them had spending problems. Good psychology nor common sense was something Dan had. If he wanted to be free of Betty and move on he should have given her the Coral Reef home. Made sure she and the kids had a decent home. Kept Linda away or at least when the kids were there, and if he had treated Betty better he would be alive today. If I recall from the transcripts the kids were suppose to have a separate line so Betty could reach them at Dans. Linda MADE sure that line had her voice recording, and finally I think the judge made Linda take it off. Anyone else recall that?

Team Betty!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

WOWWWW. Reading this now. This is a treasure trove of information.

Yes this case was still pretty popular even then. Now with the series younger people are learning about it.

I met a lady who had written to Betty. She was a paralegal in the firm Dan use to work at, her husband left her after many years as well. Then she got MS, but she did forward a few
letters to me. Only one item about Dan. Betty said it was like "they" invited Apple in their garage. I believe she meant it was all great until it became too big, or HE became
too big. The rest was about her life in prison which weirdly sounded good. I'm sure that pisses off Dan's relatives. The more I think about it I don't think it would be so great if she got
out. Especially at the age she is with no money. Nor am I sure how much support she would get from her kids.

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Was he "extraordinarily wealthy"? Or did he just live a lifestyle like he was? Apparently when he died he left like $60K and it was estimated he had only $1.6 million in other assets. That's pretty tiny for the lifestyle he was portraying.

$16K a month is $192K. Was he actually make income of even double that at the time of his death? It sounds like he had a lot of money tied up investments and very little liquid and possibly debt that was not revealed.

I also wonder how Betty's upbringing played into the situation and the fear of her parents judgement and general Catholic guilt that can be drummed into people over a lifetime that they are easily consumed with guilt for not maintaining the right lifestyle. It was clear that Betty's mom was very concerned about appearances. I mean getting upset because "morning dress" wasn't worn to a wedding? I mean they are English royalty and there was not etiquette that demanded they must do that.

He moved around and hid alot his money during the separation. He owned the house she lived in and had to pay him rent with the alimony. He made 100-140k a month. Her share was not and should not have been 16k. He was a grade A a$$hole and went above and beyond to screw her.

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And this was in the mid-80s===not 2021 so it was a fortune back then!

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Anonymous wrote:Is it on Netflix?

Yes. Hard to watch though. I could only get through about half then skipped to the end. Amanda Peet gives a great performance but watching someone unravel so completely was painful.

I would be so pissed if anyone drove a car into my house. Cannot believe the support for BB.

Am I misremembering, but wasn’t it her house, too? Like Dan tricked her into moving out of their joint marital home into a temporary house while their primary house was being renovated or something, filed, and then moved into the house that was theirs with his new wife? Or was it that he tricked her into moving out, sold their old home, and bought a new one? And then he had her committed.

It was only Dan’s house, after she moved into the fixer upper in La Jolla.

But I read she had to leave the La Jolla house and move into a condo rental because of all the financial disputes. She signed the condo over to her FWB when she was arrested. I think the "murder house" was the property he bought for Linda to live in while he was tricking Betty into leaving the family house, which he then sold against her wishes. he had it all planned out.

I think that’s right. I mean, I wouldn’t actually drive my car into the house, but I’d certainly want to if my former spouse and coparent whom I’d supported all through the lean years did that to me. What a complete evil d***. Just give her the house and half the money and move out with your side piece if you’re really just trying to get out. But he wasn’t. He wanted to destroy her. He probably thought he’d get her to kill herself. Bet that was his endgame. He figured wrong.

It's absurd given how extraordinarily wealthy the man was. Her request for 1/5 of his income for 10 years plus one million really was not unreasonable (the million would have allowed her to purchase a house and maintain it). She'd likely have gotten much more today with a truly 50-50 division of assets. Man was a sociopath, who did indeed seem to feel like she didn't have the right to exist once he was done with her. If it weren't for the damage to the children, I can absolutely see wanting to destroy people who treated me that way. But I'd like to think I'd cool my heels once the judge awarded 16k/month despite Dan's machinations.

Was he "extraordinarily wealthy"? Or did he just live a lifestyle like he was? Apparently when he died he left like $60K and it was estimated he had only $1.6 million in other assets. That's pretty tiny for the lifestyle he was portraying.

$16K a month is $192K. Was he actually make income of even double that at the time of his death? It sounds like he had a lot of money tied up investments and very little liquid and possibly debt that was not revealed.

I also wonder how Betty's upbringing played into the situation and the fear of her parents judgement and general Catholic guilt that can be drummed into people over a lifetime that they are easily consumed with guilt for not maintaining the right lifestyle. It was clear that Betty's mom was very concerned about appearances. I mean getting upset because "morning dress" wasn't worn to a wedding? I mean they are English royalty and there was not etiquette that demanded they must do that.

Good point. Wasn’t he a plaintiff’s lawyer for medical malpractice cases? Don’t those lawyers usually take their fees on a contingency basis? That kind of work can have lots of peaks and valleys in terms of financial payoffs. Dan obviously made good money, but he didn’t necessarily have a steady and endless stream of $$$ rolling in.

He had been earning 100K+/month at the time of the divorce judgment (1.4 million the year before) so yeah pretty damn wealthy but good point the income wasn't necessarily guaranteed. I don't know that they ever determined what happened to the 200K that "disappeared" before the legal separation or if the estate ever regained the 450K "loaned" to the brother, whom I read was later accused of stealing money from it. I don't think forensic accountings were really a thing in divorce cases at that time. It was pretty easy for the breadwinner to manipulate things in his favor, happened all the time. It's clear Dan did that.

But was he actually himself taking home an income of $100K or was that income to the firm itself. I am sorry but I just don't think he was as wealthy as Betty wanted him to be at the time of his death. I think if he would have lived, then yes, he could have reached a point where he was actually that wealthy.

He was making a great income, but both of them had spending problems. Good psychology nor common sense was something Dan had. If he wanted to be free of Betty and move on he should have given her the Coral Reef home. Made sure she and the kids had a decent home. Kept Linda away or at least when the kids were there, and if he had treated Betty better he would be alive today. If I recall from the transcripts the kids were suppose to have a separate line so Betty could reach them at Dans. Linda MADE sure that line had her voice recording, and finally I think the judge made Linda take it off. Anyone else recall that?

Team Betty!!!!

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Dan and Linda completely antagonized. Linda seemed like an immature little tw&atwaffle.

Link to transcripts?

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Was he "extraordinarily wealthy"? Or did he just live a lifestyle like he was? Apparently when he died he left like $60K and it was estimated he had only $1.6 million in other assets. That's pretty tiny for the lifestyle he was portraying.

$16K a month is $192K. Was he actually make income of even double that at the time of his death? It sounds like he had a lot of money tied up investments and very little liquid and possibly debt that was not revealed.

I also wonder how Betty's upbringing played into the situation and the fear of her parents judgement and general Catholic guilt that can be drummed into people over a lifetime that they are easily consumed with guilt for not maintaining the right lifestyle. It was clear that Betty's mom was very concerned about appearances. I mean getting upset because "morning dress" wasn't worn to a wedding? I mean they are English royalty and there was not etiquette that demanded they must do that.

He moved around and hid alot his money during the separation. He owned the house she lived in and had to pay him rent with the alimony. He made 100-140k a month. Her share was not and should not have been 16k. He was a grade A a$$hole and went above and beyond to screw her.

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And this was in the mid-80s===not 2021 so it was a fortune back then!

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He was sneaky little snake, all about plausible deniability. That would set anyone off.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

WOWWWW. Reading this now. This is a treasure trove of information.

Yes this case was still pretty popular even then. Now with the series younger people are learning about it.

I met a lady who had written to Betty. She was a paralegal in the firm Dan use to work at, her husband left her after many years as well. Then she got MS, but she did forward a few
letters to me. Only one item about Dan. Betty said it was like "they" invited Apple in their garage. I believe she meant it was all great until it became too big, or HE became
too big. The rest was about her life in prison which weirdly sounded good. I'm sure that pisses off Dan's relatives. The more I think about it I don't think it would be so great if she got
out. Especially at the age she is with no money. Nor am I sure how much support she would get from her kids.

He was the classic narcissist. They grow 'entitled' and lose all sense of reality when they start making big bucks. The sacrifices Betty make to enable him to get where he did were crazy...I never could have done that. He was cold and heartless. Linda was an idiot and cruel.

I truly see how Betty was driven insane at the time. I know quite a few women that were literally temporarily insane in the months after being blindsided and gaslighted by long-time spouses--the difference is the husbands showed incredible remorse and snapped out of their midlife crisis, and worked hard to make amends. I'm not sure some of these women wouldn't have ended up like Betty if their husbands did what Dan did.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

WOWWWW. Reading this now. This is a treasure trove of information.

Yes this case was still pretty popular even then. Now with the series younger people are learning about it.

I met a lady who had written to Betty. She was a paralegal in the firm Dan use to work at, her husband left her after many years as well. Then she got MS, but she did forward a few
letters to me. Only one item about Dan. Betty said it was like "they" invited Apple in their garage. I believe she meant it was all great until it became too big, or HE became
too big. The rest was about her life in prison which weirdly sounded good. I'm sure that pisses off Dan's relatives. The more I think about it I don't think it would be so great if she got
out. Especially at the age she is with no money. Nor am I sure how much support she would get from her kids.

Agree. Betty seemed to prefer prison to the calculated hell that Dan set up for her. He didn't have to mishandle matters the way he did.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

WOWWWW. Reading this now. This is a treasure trove of information.

Yes this case was still pretty popular even then. Now with the series younger people are learning about it.

I met a lady who had written to Betty. She was a paralegal in the firm Dan use to work at, her husband left her after many years as well. Then she got MS, but she did forward a few
letters to me. Only one item about Dan. Betty said it was like "they" invited Apple in their garage. I believe she meant it was all great until it became too big, or HE became
too big. The rest was about her life in prison which weirdly sounded good. I'm sure that pisses off Dan's relatives. The more I think about it I don't think it would be so great if she got
out. Especially at the age she is with no money. Nor am I sure how much support she would get from her kids.

Agree. Betty seemed to prefer prison to the calculated hell that Dan set up for her. He didn't have to mishandle matters the way he did.

I wonder what she is like in prison. Cant be easy eating and sleeping in prison given her luxury lifestyle I’m San Diego.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

WOWWWW. Reading this now. This is a treasure trove of information.

Yes this case was still pretty popular even then. Now with the series younger people are learning about it.

I met a lady who had written to Betty. She was a paralegal in the firm Dan use to work at, her husband left her after many years as well. Then she got MS, but she did forward a few
letters to me. Only one item about Dan. Betty said it was like "they" invited Apple in their garage. I believe she meant it was all great until it became too big, or HE became
too big. The rest was about her life in prison which weirdly sounded good. I'm sure that pisses off Dan's relatives. The more I think about it I don't think it would be so great if she got
out. Especially at the age she is with no money. Nor am I sure how much support she would get from her kids.

Agree. Betty seemed to prefer prison to the calculated hell that Dan set up for her. He didn't have to mishandle matters the way he did.

I wonder what she is like in prison. Cant be easy eating and sleeping in prison given her luxury lifestyle I’m San Diego.

This is what I found. She is busy and has found peace from what I've read:

https://thetab.com/uk/2020/08/24/betty-broderick-now-dirty-john-netflix-172384

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

WOWWWW. Reading this now. This is a treasure trove of information.

Yes this case was still pretty popular even then. Now with the series younger people are learning about it.

I met a lady who had written to Betty. She was a paralegal in the firm Dan use to work at, her husband left her after many years as well. Then she got MS, but she did forward a few
letters to me. Only one item about Dan. Betty said it was like "they" invited Apple in their garage. I believe she meant it was all great until it became too big, or HE became
too big. The rest was about her life in prison which weirdly sounded good. I'm sure that pisses off Dan's relatives. The more I think about it I don't think it would be so great if she got
out. Especially at the age she is with no money. Nor am I sure how much support she would get from her kids.

Agree. Betty seemed to prefer prison to the calculated hell that Dan set up for her. He didn't have to mishandle matters the way he did.

I wonder what she is like in prison. Cant be easy eating and sleeping in prison given her luxury lifestyle I’m San Diego.

This is what I found. She is busy and has found peace from what I've read:

https://thetab.com/uk/2020/08/24/betty-broderick-now-dirty-john-netflix-172384

I'm sure it was a brutal adjustment and there were issues with her acting out in the beginning, but now she seems reasonably content. Has been a model prisoner for at least 20 years, worked, helped other inmates get their GEDs, participates in a knitting circle, watches tv, corresponds with her "fans" (who also send her care packages of magazines, greeting cards, and stamps). Figured out she can be a sort of queen bee even within the limits of the prison. Fun fact: two of the Manson women, close in age, serve in the same facility.

Her younger daughter said she has a room ready for her, and social security and medicare should be adequate for her needs. But since she's never likely to convincingly express remorse, it's unlikely she'll gain release except a "compassionate" one in her final days.

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^^ can't say I blame her. I'd probably not feel remorse either in her situation, though I do blame her for not caring more about what this horror show did to her children.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ can't say I blame her. I'd probably not feel remorse either in her situation, though I do blame her for not caring more about what this horror show did to her children.

Yes, that's the only point I really don't get. Even if she felt driven to a psychotic break (which I can see), the failure to have remorse for having orphaned her kids suggests a serious screw loose beyond the break itself. That's when I lose sympathy for her.

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Dare I say -- hopefully this serves as a lesson to all men.

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Anonymous wrote:Dare I say -- hopefully this serves as a lesson to all men.

AND THE OTHER WOMEN TOO!!!

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I found her callous attitude toward her children's suffering appalling. She was abusive in dragging the kids through the divorce. Am I the only one that notices this? The phone calls with the younger son were horrible.