happening right now: 250 migrant children held in terrible, inhumane conditions in Texas

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Anonymous wrote:I sounded the alarm right here on this forum, to please send much needed diapers to the border.
How many interested posters? Zero.

Where? I totally missed it.

I’m in. Is there a group I can contribute to?

Ditto. I will contribute.

Where can I send soap to the guards who have to deal with these measles and smallpox and lice ridden illegals? They should seriously be washing their hands about 1000 times a day.

Ebola

Smallpox???

Some idiot I am Facebook friends with is convinced that these immigrants are bringing in smallpox. The stupidity is just amazing. And explains so much b

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile this is what the Trump administration is doing to a teenager who had an emergency c-section:

At the Border Patrol’s Central Processing Center in McAllen, Tex. — often known as 'Ursula' — the lawyers encountered a 17-year-old mother from Guatemala who couldn’t stand because of complications from an emergency C-section, and who was caring for a sick and dirty premature baby.

'When we encountered the baby and her mom, the baby was filthy. They wouldn’t give her any water to wash her. And I took a Kleenex and I washed around her neck black dirt," said Hope Frye, who was leading the group, adding, "Not a little stuff — dirt."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/migrant-children-border-soap.html?fbclid=IwAR3NdbuikqX2Evk9Ho2s6-uy19ZB22ofsTvh5Z7XaFogkufXa79t_uUq4Lw

Kind of a bonehead move to come over in the first place.

So she had her anchor baby early via emergency c section while committing a crime?
They’re really not sending their best.

You have no idea if she committed a crime.

She crossed the border illegally. That is a crime. But all in all she seems smarter than PP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sounded the alarm right here on this forum, to please send much needed diapers to the border.
How many interested posters? Zero.

Where? I totally missed it.

I’m in. Is there a group I can contribute to?

Ditto. I will contribute.

Where can I send soap to the guards who have to deal with these measles and smallpox and lice ridden illegals? They should seriously be washing their hands about 1000 times a day.

Smallpox???

Yep. The Guatemalans bought some surplus blankets from the US.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile this is what the Trump administration is doing to a teenager who had an emergency c-section:

At the Border Patrol’s Central Processing Center in McAllen, Tex. — often known as 'Ursula' — the lawyers encountered a 17-year-old mother from Guatemala who couldn’t stand because of complications from an emergency C-section, and who was caring for a sick and dirty premature baby.

'When we encountered the baby and her mom, the baby was filthy. They wouldn’t give her any water to wash her. And I took a Kleenex and I washed around her neck black dirt," said Hope Frye, who was leading the group, adding, "Not a little stuff — dirt."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/migrant-children-border-soap.html?fbclid=IwAR3NdbuikqX2Evk9Ho2s6-uy19ZB22ofsTvh5Z7XaFogkufXa79t_uUq4Lw

Kind of a bonehead move to come over in the first place.

So she had her anchor baby early via emergency c section while committing a crime?
They’re really not sending their best.

You have no idea if she committed a crime.

She crossed the border illegally. That is a crime. But all in all she seems smarter than PP

Crossing the border for the purpose of claiming asylum is NOT a crime.

And as an American, and a moral human being, what kind of country do you want?

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Anonymous wrote:So, when a 2 year old is left to die in a cage, Rs can throw their hands up and say “Welp. Price they pay for having parents who bring them here.” Why don’t they have the same attitude toward aborted fetuses? “Welp. That’s what they get for having parents who have sex for reasons other that reproduction.”

I’m a Christian democrat and have somewhat conservative views on abortion. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Who f@cking cares? 250 kids in cages. No toothpaste.
BIG f$cking deal.
If it mattered, at all, congress and the judiciary would let the president enforce existing immigration law. But.....

I care. I’m sorry to hear you are so stunted emotionally that you don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile this is what the Trump administration is doing to a teenager who had an emergency c-section:

At the Border Patrol’s Central Processing Center in McAllen, Tex. — often known as 'Ursula' — the lawyers encountered a 17-year-old mother from Guatemala who couldn’t stand because of complications from an emergency C-section, and who was caring for a sick and dirty premature baby.

'When we encountered the baby and her mom, the baby was filthy. They wouldn’t give her any water to wash her. And I took a Kleenex and I washed around her neck black dirt," said Hope Frye, who was leading the group, adding, "Not a little stuff — dirt."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/migrant-children-border-soap.html?fbclid=IwAR3NdbuikqX2Evk9Ho2s6-uy19ZB22ofsTvh5Z7XaFogkufXa79t_uUq4Lw

Kind of a bonehead move to come over in the first place.

So she had her anchor baby early via emergency c section while committing a crime?
They’re really not sending their best.

You have no idea if she committed a crime.

She crossed the border illegally. That is a crime. But all in all she seems smarter than PP

Crossing the border for the purpose of claiming asylum is NOT a crime.

And as an American, and a moral human being, what kind of country do you want?

Actually crossing illegally is a crime. The claim for asylum is separate. That was the zero tolerance policy last year- people were crossing illegally and being prosecuted for it and children had to be separated from their parents while the parents went through the courts for illegal entry (similar to when an American breaks the law and goes to jail).

[Anonymous]

All this talk of donations and funding is naive. The cruelty here is the point. These kids arrived with toothbrushes, clothes, etc. and the government took it away. The government will not let your donations get to these kids. The government has argued in court that it is not required to provide these things. This is the process of dehumanization. That is what is happening.

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Anonymous wrote:All this talk of donations and funding is naive. The cruelty here is the point. These kids arrived with toothbrushes, clothes, etc. and the government took it away. The government will not let your donations get to these kids. The government has argued in court that it is not required to provide these things. This is the process of dehumanization. That is what is happening.

Just like the Nazis!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Congress controls the purse strings. The House is Democrat majority. Democrats own this just as much as Republicans.

The president doesn't control the purse strings.

Maybe a refresher on 3rd grade civics are in order for some of you

GOP held the purse strings for 2 years. If they cared so much they should have done something.

Why complain about Ds when your own party DGAF?

The crisis wasn't 2 years ago. It's now after building for months and officials warning congress this would happen

It was a “crisis” a year ago when the GOP still had the house and the senate.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/crisis-border-numbers/

June 20, 2018

WHAT WAS SAID
“What the president reiterated again yesterday, and he has said every day from when he sought this office, is we have a crisis of illegal immigration.”
— Vice President Mike Pence, meeting with members of Congress on Wednesday.

“These smugglers know these rules and regulations better than the people that drew them. As a result, there’s been a 325 percent increase in minors, and a 435 percent increase in the smuggling or attempted smuggling of families and minors into our country.”
— President Trump, speaking to the National Federation of Independent Businesses on Tuesday.

“In the last three months we've seen illegal immigration on our southern border exceed 50,000 people each month. Multiples over each month last year.”
— Kirstjen Nielsen, the homeland security secretary, at a news conference on Monday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/fact-check-trump-border-crossings-declining-.html

The crisis at he border obviously gotten worse than last year. Democrats blocked funding on it last year as well so I don't know how that makes your point stronger. Democrats blocked the 2017 and 2018 bills to address this:

While Schumer said Democrats would be "happy" to debate the border wall, he predicted it couldn't get the 60 votes needed to clear the Senate.

"I think if they brought it up in regular order it would not pass, it wouldn't come close to passing," he added.

Republicans could clear legislation funding the wall through the House without Democratic help, but they would need the support of at least eight Democrats in the Senate to overcome a likely filibuster.

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/331415-schumer-trumps-border-wall-cant-pass-senate


Oh and this lovely article where democrats still denied there was an issue even as things got worse:

Earlier this year, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Trump of exaggerating problems at the border to stoke fear among Americans and distract from the turmoil of his own administration.

After Trump issued an Oval Office address to the nation on Jan. 8 proclaiming the border situation a “crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul,” Schumer and Pelosi gave a side-by-side rebuttal.

“This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration,” Schumer said in the midst of a 35-day government shutdown sparked by a partisan disagreement over funding border barriers.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/449214-dems-make-u-turn-on-calling-border-a-manufactured-crisis

He’s been calling it a “crisis” for years. If it was such a “crisis” then Trump should have taken the $25B offered last March. Or brought it to a vote when the gop had control.

Once again for those who are slow - the Dems didn't offer 25B. The offered the PROMISE of 25B. Had they offered cold, hard cash, he was prepared to take it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congress controls the purse strings. The House is Democrat majority. Democrats own this just as much as Republicans.

The president doesn't control the purse strings.

Maybe a refresher on 3rd grade civics are in order for some of you

GOP held the purse strings for 2 years. If they cared so much they should have done something.

Why complain about Ds when your own party DGAF?

The crisis wasn't 2 years ago. It's now after building for months and officials warning congress this would happen

It was a “crisis” a year ago when the GOP still had the house and the senate.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/crisis-border-numbers/

June 20, 2018

WHAT WAS SAID
“What the president reiterated again yesterday, and he has said every day from when he sought this office, is we have a crisis of illegal immigration.”
— Vice President Mike Pence, meeting with members of Congress on Wednesday.

“These smugglers know these rules and regulations better than the people that drew them. As a result, there’s been a 325 percent increase in minors, and a 435 percent increase in the smuggling or attempted smuggling of families and minors into our country.”
— President Trump, speaking to the National Federation of Independent Businesses on Tuesday.

“In the last three months we've seen illegal immigration on our southern border exceed 50,000 people each month. Multiples over each month last year.”
— Kirstjen Nielsen, the homeland security secretary, at a news conference on Monday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/fact-check-trump-border-crossings-declining-.html

The crisis at he border obviously gotten worse than last year. Democrats blocked funding on it last year as well so I don't know how that makes your point stronger. Democrats blocked the 2017 and 2018 bills to address this:

While Schumer said Democrats would be "happy" to debate the border wall, he predicted it couldn't get the 60 votes needed to clear the Senate.

"I think if they brought it up in regular order it would not pass, it wouldn't come close to passing," he added.

Republicans could clear legislation funding the wall through the House without Democratic help, but they would need the support of at least eight Democrats in the Senate to overcome a likely filibuster.

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/331415-schumer-trumps-border-wall-cant-pass-senate


Oh and this lovely article where democrats still denied there was an issue even as things got worse:

Earlier this year, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Trump of exaggerating problems at the border to stoke fear among Americans and distract from the turmoil of his own administration.

After Trump issued an Oval Office address to the nation on Jan. 8 proclaiming the border situation a “crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul,” Schumer and Pelosi gave a side-by-side rebuttal.

“This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration,” Schumer said in the midst of a 35-day government shutdown sparked by a partisan disagreement over funding border barriers.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/449214-dems-make-u-turn-on-calling-border-a-manufactured-crisis

He’s been calling it a “crisis” for years. If it was such a “crisis” then Trump should have taken the $25B offered last March. Or brought it to a vote when the gop had control.

Once again for those who are slow - the Dems didn't offer 25B. The offered the PROMISE of 25B. Had they offered cold, hard cash, he was prepared to take it.

+1

The PP above also must have reading comprehension issues since in 2017/2018 funding bills the Republican house was ready to pass it but the Senate needed 8 democrats to pass border security funding and Chuck said it wouldn't happen. All this gotcha business of how the Republicans didn't pass immigration sounds so foolish since most of these clowns don't appear to know the basics of how our government works.

[Anonymous]

when somali pirates keep prisoners more humanely than the greatest country on earth

https://twitter.com/MichaelSctMoore/status/1142514916961599488

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congress controls the purse strings. The House is Democrat majority. Democrats own this just as much as Republicans.

The president doesn't control the purse strings.

Maybe a refresher on 3rd grade civics are in order for some of you

GOP held the purse strings for 2 years. If they cared so much they should have done something.

Why complain about Ds when your own party DGAF?

The crisis wasn't 2 years ago. It's now after building for months and officials warning congress this would happen

It was a “crisis” a year ago when the GOP still had the house and the senate.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/crisis-border-numbers/

June 20, 2018

WHAT WAS SAID
“What the president reiterated again yesterday, and he has said every day from when he sought this office, is we have a crisis of illegal immigration.”
— Vice President Mike Pence, meeting with members of Congress on Wednesday.

“These smugglers know these rules and regulations better than the people that drew them. As a result, there’s been a 325 percent increase in minors, and a 435 percent increase in the smuggling or attempted smuggling of families and minors into our country.”
— President Trump, speaking to the National Federation of Independent Businesses on Tuesday.

“In the last three months we've seen illegal immigration on our southern border exceed 50,000 people each month. Multiples over each month last year.”
— Kirstjen Nielsen, the homeland security secretary, at a news conference on Monday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/fact-check-trump-border-crossings-declining-.html

The crisis at he border obviously gotten worse than last year. Democrats blocked funding on it last year as well so I don't know how that makes your point stronger. Democrats blocked the 2017 and 2018 bills to address this:

While Schumer said Democrats would be "happy" to debate the border wall, he predicted it couldn't get the 60 votes needed to clear the Senate.

"I think if they brought it up in regular order it would not pass, it wouldn't come close to passing," he added.

Republicans could clear legislation funding the wall through the House without Democratic help, but they would need the support of at least eight Democrats in the Senate to overcome a likely filibuster.

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/331415-schumer-trumps-border-wall-cant-pass-senate


Oh and this lovely article where democrats still denied there was an issue even as things got worse:

Earlier this year, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Trump of exaggerating problems at the border to stoke fear among Americans and distract from the turmoil of his own administration.

After Trump issued an Oval Office address to the nation on Jan. 8 proclaiming the border situation a “crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul,” Schumer and Pelosi gave a side-by-side rebuttal.

“This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration,” Schumer said in the midst of a 35-day government shutdown sparked by a partisan disagreement over funding border barriers.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/449214-dems-make-u-turn-on-calling-border-a-manufactured-crisis

He’s been calling it a “crisis” for years. If it was such a “crisis” then Trump should have taken the $25B offered last March. Or brought it to a vote when the gop had control.

Once again for those who are slow - the Dems didn't offer 25B. The offered the PROMISE of 25B. Had they offered cold, hard cash, he was prepared to take it.

+1

The PP above also must have reading comprehension issues since in 2017/2018 funding bills the Republican house was ready to pass it but the Senate needed 8 democrats to pass border security funding and Chuck said it wouldn't happen. All this gotcha business of how the Republicans didn't pass immigration sounds so foolish since most of these clowns don't appear to know the basics of how our government works.

try again

https://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2019/jan/15/tim-kaine/tim-kaine-mostly-accurate-about-trump-nixing-25-bi/

[Anonymous]

"Children as young as 7 and 8, many of them wearing clothes caked with snot and tears, are caring for infants they’ve just met. Toddlers without diapers are relieving themselves in their pants. Teenage mothers are wearing clothes stained with breast milk."

[Anonymous]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/inside-a-texas-building-where-the-government-is-holding-immigrant-children

Interview with lawyer who this week was talking to children in Clint, Texas - at a facility meant for 104 adults, which is currently holding 350 children.

Question - I know you have been doing this for about three years. For people you know who have been doing it longer, to what degree is this the worst they’ve ever seen, and to what degree is this an aspect of our immigration policy that has been going on for a really long time, and there is just much more of a spotlight on it now?

That’s a very good question. Things have always been horrendous in Border Patrol facilities, especially for children. That’s why Flores requires that the children be moved out of there as expeditiously as possible. So we’ve always been concerned about the conditions in Border Patrol facilities. What we’re concerned about now is the number of children who are there, the young ages of the children there, and the length of time that they’re being left there.

Almost all of these children have family members, including parents, in the United States, who are able to and want to take care of their children. All we need to do is to get these children to their families, and we know that almost all of them will be well cared for, and it will cost the U.S. taxpayer no money to care for these children, because they will be cared for by their parents.

Now, when I say that—of course there are certain inherent costs in running a society that will be incurred, but as far as direct care, at the facilities that we have the numbers for, such as the large facilities like Homestead, it costs seven hundred and seventy-five dollars a day to care for these kids. There is no reason for the American taxpayer to have to pay seven hundred and seventy-five dollars a day to care for children who have families who love them, and are here in the United States, and want to take care of them. There are multiple kids that we could put on a plane this week to be with their parents in the United States.

[Anonymous]

I cannot imagining my 2 year old in these conditions. This is making me physically ill. What monsters. How do they sleep at night?!