happening right now: 250 migrant children held in terrible, inhumane conditions in Texas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Children as young as 7 and 8, many of them wearing clothes caked with snot and tears, are caring for infants they’ve just met. Toddlers without diapers are relieving themselves in their pants. Teenage mothers are wearing clothes stained with breast milk."

Can you please post a link? NYT has a paywall.

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Anonymous wrote:Congress controls the purse strings. The House is Democrat majority. Democrats own this just as much as Republicans.

The president doesn't control the purse strings.

Maybe a refresher on 3rd grade civics are in order for some of you

GOP held the purse strings for 2 years. If they cared so much they should have done something.

Why complain about Ds when your own party DGAF?

The crisis wasn't 2 years ago. It's now after building for months and officials warning congress this would happen

It was a “crisis” a year ago when the GOP still had the house and the senate.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/crisis-border-numbers/

June 20, 2018

WHAT WAS SAID
“What the president reiterated again yesterday, and he has said every day from when he sought this office, is we have a crisis of illegal immigration.”
— Vice President Mike Pence, meeting with members of Congress on Wednesday.

“These smugglers know these rules and regulations better than the people that drew them. As a result, there’s been a 325 percent increase in minors, and a 435 percent increase in the smuggling or attempted smuggling of families and minors into our country.”
— President Trump, speaking to the National Federation of Independent Businesses on Tuesday.

“In the last three months we've seen illegal immigration on our southern border exceed 50,000 people each month. Multiples over each month last year.”
— Kirstjen Nielsen, the homeland security secretary, at a news conference on Monday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/fact-check-trump-border-crossings-declining-.html

The crisis at he border obviously gotten worse than last year. Democrats blocked funding on it last year as well so I don't know how that makes your point stronger. Democrats blocked the 2017 and 2018 bills to address this:

While Schumer said Democrats would be "happy" to debate the border wall, he predicted it couldn't get the 60 votes needed to clear the Senate.

"I think if they brought it up in regular order it would not pass, it wouldn't come close to passing," he added.

Republicans could clear legislation funding the wall through the House without Democratic help, but they would need the support of at least eight Democrats in the Senate to overcome a likely filibuster.

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/331415-schumer-trumps-border-wall-cant-pass-senate


Oh and this lovely article where democrats still denied there was an issue even as things got worse:

Earlier this year, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Trump of exaggerating problems at the border to stoke fear among Americans and distract from the turmoil of his own administration.

After Trump issued an Oval Office address to the nation on Jan. 8 proclaiming the border situation a “crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul,” Schumer and Pelosi gave a side-by-side rebuttal.

“This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration,” Schumer said in the midst of a 35-day government shutdown sparked by a partisan disagreement over funding border barriers.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/449214-dems-make-u-turn-on-calling-border-a-manufactured-crisis

He’s been calling it a “crisis” for years. If it was such a “crisis” then Trump should have taken the $25B offered last March. Or brought it to a vote when the gop had control.

Once again for those who are slow - the Dems didn't offer 25B. The offered the PROMISE of 25B. Had they offered cold, hard cash, he was prepared to take it.

+1

The PP above also must have reading comprehension issues since in 2017/2018 funding bills the Republican house was ready to pass it but the Senate needed 8 democrats to pass border security funding and Chuck said it wouldn't happen. All this gotcha business of how the Republicans didn't pass immigration sounds so foolish since most of these clowns don't appear to know the basics of how our government works.

try again

https://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2019/jan/15/tim-kaine/tim-kaine-mostly-accurate-about-trump-nixing-25-bi/

“$25 billion over 10 years in border security done the right way”

The promise of 25 billion. Just like I said

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congress controls the purse strings. The House is Democrat majority. Democrats own this just as much as Republicans.

The president doesn't control the purse strings.

Maybe a refresher on 3rd grade civics are in order for some of you

GOP held the purse strings for 2 years. If they cared so much they should have done something.

Why complain about Ds when your own party DGAF?

The crisis wasn't 2 years ago. It's now after building for months and officials warning congress this would happen

It was a “crisis” a year ago when the GOP still had the house and the senate.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/crisis-border-numbers/

June 20, 2018

WHAT WAS SAID
“What the president reiterated again yesterday, and he has said every day from when he sought this office, is we have a crisis of illegal immigration.”
— Vice President Mike Pence, meeting with members of Congress on Wednesday.

“These smugglers know these rules and regulations better than the people that drew them. As a result, there’s been a 325 percent increase in minors, and a 435 percent increase in the smuggling or attempted smuggling of families and minors into our country.”
— President Trump, speaking to the National Federation of Independent Businesses on Tuesday.

“In the last three months we've seen illegal immigration on our southern border exceed 50,000 people each month. Multiples over each month last year.”
— Kirstjen Nielsen, the homeland security secretary, at a news conference on Monday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/fact-check-trump-border-crossings-declining-.html

The crisis at he border obviously gotten worse than last year. Democrats blocked funding on it last year as well so I don't know how that makes your point stronger. Democrats blocked the 2017 and 2018 bills to address this:

While Schumer said Democrats would be "happy" to debate the border wall, he predicted it couldn't get the 60 votes needed to clear the Senate.

"I think if they brought it up in regular order it would not pass, it wouldn't come close to passing," he added.

Republicans could clear legislation funding the wall through the House without Democratic help, but they would need the support of at least eight Democrats in the Senate to overcome a likely filibuster.

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/331415-schumer-trumps-border-wall-cant-pass-senate


Oh and this lovely article where democrats still denied there was an issue even as things got worse:

Earlier this year, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Trump of exaggerating problems at the border to stoke fear among Americans and distract from the turmoil of his own administration.

After Trump issued an Oval Office address to the nation on Jan. 8 proclaiming the border situation a “crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul,” Schumer and Pelosi gave a side-by-side rebuttal.

“This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration,” Schumer said in the midst of a 35-day government shutdown sparked by a partisan disagreement over funding border barriers.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/449214-dems-make-u-turn-on-calling-border-a-manufactured-crisis

He’s been calling it a “crisis” for years. If it was such a “crisis” then Trump should have taken the $25B offered last March. Or brought it to a vote when the gop had control.

Once again for those who are slow - the Dems didn't offer 25B. The offered the PROMISE of 25B. Had they offered cold, hard cash, he was prepared to take it.

+1

The PP above also must have reading comprehension issues since in 2017/2018 funding bills the Republican house was ready to pass it but the Senate needed 8 democrats to pass border security funding and Chuck said it wouldn't happen. All this gotcha business of how the Republicans didn't pass immigration sounds so foolish since most of these clowns don't appear to know the basics of how our government works.

try again

https://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2019/jan/15/tim-kaine/tim-kaine-mostly-accurate-about-trump-nixing-25-bi/

“$25 billion over 10 years in border security done the right way”

The promise of 25 billion. Just like I said

We’re you expecting Schumer to get out his checkbook?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Children as young as 7 and 8, many of them wearing clothes caked with snot and tears, are caring for infants they’ve just met. Toddlers without diapers are relieving themselves in their pants. Teenage mothers are wearing clothes stained with breast milk."

Can you please post a link? NYT has a paywall.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/migrant-children-border-soap.html#click=https://t.co/RaMckBowu7

[Anonymous]

What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Children as young as 7 and 8, many of them wearing clothes caked with snot and tears, are caring for infants they’ve just met. Toddlers without diapers are relieving themselves in their pants. Teenage mothers are wearing clothes stained with breast milk."

Can you please post a link? NYT has a paywall.

Read the New Yorker interview - https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/inside-a-texas-building-where-the-government-is-holding-immigrant-children

And then we started to pull the children who had been there the longest to find out just how long children are being kept there. Children described to us that they’ve been there for three weeks or longer. And so, immediately from that population that we were trying to triage, they were filthy dirty, there was mucus on their shirts, the shirts were dirty. We saw breast milk on the shirts. There was food on the shirts, and the pants as well. They told us that they were hungry. They told us that some of them had not showered or had not showered until the day or two days before we arrived. Many of them described that they only brushed their teeth once. This facility knew last week that we were coming. The government knew three weeks ago that we were coming.

[Anonymous]

Obama
2014

He said he would send unaccompanied minors back. And he mentioned the safety of the children traveling alone. Sex trafficking was addressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

[Anonymous]

stop - we're talking about kids. KIDS. This isn't about your beef with their parents. It's about being humane to children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

I'm sure this is a pro-lifer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congress controls the purse strings. The House is Democrat majority. Democrats own this just as much as Republicans.

The president doesn't control the purse strings.

Maybe a refresher on 3rd grade civics are in order for some of you

GOP held the purse strings for 2 years. If they cared so much they should have done something.

Why complain about Ds when your own party DGAF?

The crisis wasn't 2 years ago. It's now after building for months and officials warning congress this would happen

It was a “crisis” a year ago when the GOP still had the house and the senate.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/crisis-border-numbers/

June 20, 2018

WHAT WAS SAID
“What the president reiterated again yesterday, and he has said every day from when he sought this office, is we have a crisis of illegal immigration.”
— Vice President Mike Pence, meeting with members of Congress on Wednesday.

“These smugglers know these rules and regulations better than the people that drew them. As a result, there’s been a 325 percent increase in minors, and a 435 percent increase in the smuggling or attempted smuggling of families and minors into our country.”
— President Trump, speaking to the National Federation of Independent Businesses on Tuesday.

“In the last three months we've seen illegal immigration on our southern border exceed 50,000 people each month. Multiples over each month last year.”
— Kirstjen Nielsen, the homeland security secretary, at a news conference on Monday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/fact-check-trump-border-crossings-declining-.html

The crisis at he border obviously gotten worse than last year. Democrats blocked funding on it last year as well so I don't know how that makes your point stronger. Democrats blocked the 2017 and 2018 bills to address this:

While Schumer said Democrats would be "happy" to debate the border wall, he predicted it couldn't get the 60 votes needed to clear the Senate.

"I think if they brought it up in regular order it would not pass, it wouldn't come close to passing," he added.

Republicans could clear legislation funding the wall through the House without Democratic help, but they would need the support of at least eight Democrats in the Senate to overcome a likely filibuster.

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/331415-schumer-trumps-border-wall-cant-pass-senate


Oh and this lovely article where democrats still denied there was an issue even as things got worse:

Earlier this year, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Trump of exaggerating problems at the border to stoke fear among Americans and distract from the turmoil of his own administration.

After Trump issued an Oval Office address to the nation on Jan. 8 proclaiming the border situation a “crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul,” Schumer and Pelosi gave a side-by-side rebuttal.

“This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration,” Schumer said in the midst of a 35-day government shutdown sparked by a partisan disagreement over funding border barriers.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/449214-dems-make-u-turn-on-calling-border-a-manufactured-crisis

He’s been calling it a “crisis” for years. If it was such a “crisis” then Trump should have taken the $25B offered last March. Or brought it to a vote when the gop had control.

Once again for those who are slow - the Dems didn't offer 25B. The offered the PROMISE of 25B. Had they offered cold, hard cash, he was prepared to take it.

+1

The PP above also must have reading comprehension issues since in 2017/2018 funding bills the Republican house was ready to pass it but the Senate needed 8 democrats to pass border security funding and Chuck said it wouldn't happen. All this gotcha business of how the Republicans didn't pass immigration sounds so foolish since most of these clowns don't appear to know the basics of how our government works.

try again

https://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2019/jan/15/tim-kaine/tim-kaine-mostly-accurate-about-trump-nixing-25-bi/

“$25 billion over 10 years in border security done the right way”

The promise of 25 billion. Just like I said

We’re you expecting Schumer to get out his checkbook?

The Reagan years taught us never to trust a Democratic promise

[Anonymous]

These kids should have all the soap they need on the plane, bus, or train ride home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

I'm sure this is a pro-lifer.

Yup, and trump supporter.
So instead of posting, why don’t you libs go adopt or sponsor these pathetic trafficked wretched urchins whose parents are putting their lives at risk?
Let me guess, your MOCO HOAs have covenants that limit number of inhabitants in a house?
AND, they Haven’t washed or brushed their teeth regularly since the day they were born but now it’s trump’s fault because their parents dragged them 3000 miles to illegally sneak into another country?
No soap for the them; they can wash when they get back home.

“Pro-lifer”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These kids should have all the soap they need on the plane, bus, or train ride home.

+1

All these liberal screaming arguments don’t affect me or my conscience at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obama
2014

He said he would send unaccompanied minors back. And he mentioned the safety of the children traveling alone. Sex trafficking was addressed.

Unaccompanied minors =/= separating families